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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 30, 2020 13:08:21 GMT -5
A fan posted a clip from the Bryan and Vinny Show at F4W Online where they talk about the Women's Rumble Match with a guest, and criticised the tone and language of their comments about Naomi's spots to avoid elimination. Naomi got wind of it, and she sure as heck isn't happy.
BAD LANGUAGE WARNING if you decide to watch the clip.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jan 30, 2020 13:10:52 GMT -5
"to whoever these guys are" lmao I guess it's time to pretend Alvarez is a nobody
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 30, 2020 13:15:36 GMT -5
Far be it from me to defend Alvarez, because he's a twit, but it's pretty obvious that his issue is with the WWE's booking and the Naomi character, rather than the person. It's a ridiculously, convoluted spot that defies logic.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 30, 2020 13:18:34 GMT -5
The company is pushing them to criticize anything anyone from the Observer says, classic Stand Up For WWE tactics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 13:25:44 GMT -5
Aint about to defend anything about Alvarez
But that spot was really f***ing stupid which had her standing on the table like a goof for what felt like 10min...instead of just jumping to the stairs from the barrier...she goes from the barrier to the table...then uses some flimsy ass piece of plastic board to bridge...to the stairs....the stairs she could just jump to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 13:30:41 GMT -5
I saw it just her stalling so she would not get eliminated right away.
If she doesn't have a crappy balance, could have probably jumped with one feet though.
Wrestling Observer dudes pretty much always say stuff out of their mouths without filters. They're not Cornettes though.
I want someone to break the table under her some year!
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Post by brown bricks on Jan 30, 2020 13:37:19 GMT -5
Yeah, Naomi is in the wrong here. Her getting all bent out of shape over criticism isn't a good look.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 30, 2020 13:38:43 GMT -5
Yeah, Naomi is in the wrong here. Her getting all bent out of shape over criticism isn't a good look. She said she didn't mind the criticism, more the tone (being called an MF'er and an idiot).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 13:40:58 GMT -5
I think it's fairly obvious that they aren't really blaming Naomi, just reviewing the spot and discussing the illogical nature of it. Discussing logic in wrestling is always a losing battle though and people are bound to get offended in this day and age if they disagree especially on Twitter.
It's his job and I really don't think there's any malicious intent behind it and if there is, it's not directed towards Naomi. She seems to be taking it a bit too personal but I probably would if I were in her place as well.
Overall this feels like a fairly nothing story imo.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 30, 2020 13:42:04 GMT -5
Yea, pick your words better
Calling someone a MF'er or idiot is out of line and she has a right to feel a way in that regard
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 13:58:28 GMT -5
Bryan Alvarez sucks. Like... big time sucks. To me, he always comes across like such an asshole.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 14:00:50 GMT -5
People aren't understand why she was mad. It's not about her actions as to why she's responding but more about the tone and how they're treating her.
You can criticize someone without calling them that. Looking deeper into it that can cross some pretty bad lines that I'm sure they weren't intending which yall know what I'm saying if you get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 14:01:41 GMT -5
"to whoever these guys are" lmao I guess it's time to pretend Alvarez is a nobody I've always thought of Alvarez as the dude people get when Meltzer's too busy doing other stuff. He also has a terrible radio voice, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2020 14:02:02 GMT -5
She's taking casual words like "mother f***er" and "idocity" way too seriously here.
As for the spot, they are completely right in my book.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 30, 2020 14:02:56 GMT -5
To be fair, they didn't call her an idiot. They called the spot "idiocy."
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 30, 2020 14:04:26 GMT -5
This one was probably a little too harsh with their riffing, but in most cases whenever Alvarez calls someone an idiot or a geek when reviewing a show, he’s referring to the character and how it’s being presented. I think that was mostly the case here, though it did get closer to that line than it usually does. The whole sequence did make the Naomi character look stupid.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 30, 2020 14:05:28 GMT -5
She's taking casual words like "mother f***er" and "idocity" way too seriously here. As for the spot, they are completely right in my book. Honestly, words shouldn't be casually thrown about when discussing women anyway They can be right about the spot and wrong in the way they worded it
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Post by Instant Classic on Jan 30, 2020 14:06:19 GMT -5
I mean it was a stupid spot and took forever just to get eliminated, but still who are these nerds?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 30, 2020 14:07:36 GMT -5
People aren't understand why she was mad. It's not about her actions as to why she's responding but more about the tone and how they're treating her. You can criticize someone without calling them that. Looking deeper into it that can cross some pretty bad lines that I'm sure they weren't intending which yall know what I'm saying if you get it. Yea, there is such a thing as being a little too loose with the lips and that's what this is Naomi could have dragged this if she wanted but she is keeping it clean and only referring to her problem with words he used which in fairness shouldn't be thrown around freely when discussing an all women segment
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Jan 30, 2020 14:09:54 GMT -5
I have many thoughts
1. Holy shit Bryan Alvarez's hair 2. This is duuumb. Like, surprised to be defending F4W, but there's not one thing being talked about there that isn't about what a *wrestling character* was doing on a wrestling show. I'm kinda wondering how many people actually watched the clip if I'm being honest.
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