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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 10, 2020 20:17:02 GMT -5
I’m watching 1997 raw and I’m up to the summertime. Why did Stone Cold hate Bret so much? We talk about heelish things that people like Cena, Batista, and Roman did but man Stone Cold took it to another level lol. He attacked Bret while he was in a wheelchair
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 10, 2020 20:19:08 GMT -5
"No one ever got a boner watching Stunning Steve."
"... I'm gonna kill that Shitman."
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Post by Squirrel Master on Apr 10, 2020 20:25:28 GMT -5
Stone Cold knew that Canadian beer > American beer.
"An honest brew makes its own friends." - John Molson
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Post by Kyle Butler on Apr 10, 2020 20:27:00 GMT -5
Just popped in to say that this is still my favorite feud of all time
But to answer the question, it was as simple as Stone Cold believing he was the best wrestler on the planet. Obviously, he took exception to Bret’s catchphrase and legacy and needed to get him back to the WWF to prove that he was the best. Losing to Bret just made Austin even madder because he refused to believe he wasn’t still the best, no matter what happened with Bret.
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Post by Perd on Apr 10, 2020 20:38:00 GMT -5
I always took it as him focusing all his rage on the biggest target he could find. What better way to wreak havoc than by trying to destroy the WWF’s standard bearer?
That, or he was jelly he could g work the color pink like that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 20:43:51 GMT -5
Probably all the pink.
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Post by Main Eventer on Apr 10, 2020 20:45:00 GMT -5
Because all Bret Hart did was cry.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Apr 10, 2020 20:55:39 GMT -5
because he was a JACK ASS and a CRY BABY
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 10, 2020 21:10:57 GMT -5
Pink tights. What the hell is that all about, Bret? This ain't no ballet class.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Apr 10, 2020 22:16:10 GMT -5
As Kyle Butler alluded to, because he was brash and thought he was the best wrestler in the planet, riding high off the wave of winning King of the Ring, wanted to prove he was the best by beating the proverbial Man, only for Bret to make Stone Cold eat humble pie for the first time since his KotR victory by living up to his reputation and beating him fair and square at Survivor Series ‘96. The defeat rocked him, he became obsessed with correcting it, which is why he escalated things so fiercely against Bret in the first few months of 1997. And it just blew up from there.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 10, 2020 22:32:53 GMT -5
At first it really wasn't serious hate, it was Austin just calling out the biggest star he could. Then Bret beat him at Survivor Series with wrestling. But that didn't stop things, it only got it started. You had the Pillman gun angle antics as well (why Austin hated Pillman to that degree is a topic of another thread), going after a Hart ally. Then throw in stuff like Austin screwing Bret out of the Rumble win, the Raw title match with Sid, etc. I think at some point even in storyline terms Austin worked his way into a shoot, taking a rivalry based on calling out the big star and making it uber personal.
What's weird is that there was never a real blow off to it. I suppose you could say Austin beating Owen for the IC title at Survivor Series the night of the Screwjob was the final blow off to anything Austin/Harts related, but he never quite got even with Bret.
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Post by mauled on Apr 11, 2020 3:04:19 GMT -5
At first it really wasn't serious hate, it was Austin just calling out the biggest star he could. Then Bret beat him at Survivor Series with wrestling. But that didn't stop things, it only got it started. You had the Pillman gun angle antics as well (why Austin hated Pillman to that degree is a topic of another thread), going after a Hart ally. Then throw in stuff like Austin screwing Bret out of the Rumble win, the Raw title match with Sid, etc. I think at some point even in storyline terms Austin worked his way into a shoot, taking a rivalry based on calling out the big star and making it uber personal. What's weird is that there was never a real blow off to it. I suppose you could say Austin beating Owen for the IC title at Survivor Series the night of the Screwjob was the final blow off to anything Austin/Harts related, but he never quite got even with Bret. There was the In Your House match after WM13, I think Austin won that |
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Post by Main Event Mark on Apr 11, 2020 3:53:10 GMT -5
"If you put the letter S in front of Hitman, you get what I think of Bret Hart."
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 11, 2020 4:44:27 GMT -5
Stone Cold knew that Canadian beer > American beer. "An honest beer makes its own friends." - John Molson F*** Molson, I’m a Labatt’s Blue guy. Although I’d take a Canadian over a Bud Lite any day |
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 11, 2020 7:27:35 GMT -5
He said something like "You ain't been screwed Bret, until Stone Cold screws you!", which I don't think came across they way he intended.
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Post by thehottag on Apr 11, 2020 7:54:16 GMT -5
What's weird is that there was never a real blow off to it. I suppose you could say Austin beating Owen for the IC title at Survivor Series the night of the Screwjob was the final blow off to anything Austin/Harts related, but he never quite got even with Bret. Do you think that without Montreal, Bret would've stayed & been the one to put over Austin at Wrestlemania XIV? |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 11, 2020 8:15:10 GMT -5
Stone Cold knew that Canadian beer > American beer. "An honest beer makes its own friends." - John Molson F*** Molson, I’m a Labatt’s Blue guy. Although I’d take a Canadian over a Bud Lite any day Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale >>>> your favorite canadian beer. |
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Post by krozor on Apr 11, 2020 9:07:23 GMT -5
A little more to it as well: it starts when Bret is in exile after Wrestlemania 12, still low-key made about the ending and so when they interview him, he talks about how the best wrestler in the company now is Austin, who has been railing against the company and starting trouble. Austin thinks Bret is retired and never coming back, so he calls him - a challenge he never has to answer. Except Bret answers it, and Austin now has to take on somebody he's worried he can't actually beat, which we see when he snaps on Pillman for being too excited about the match.
And Bret comes back and does it: outwrestles The Ringmaster, beats him by trapping him with a counter to his finisher, killing off that part of Austin for good. All that's left is the psychotic part of him now, but no matter what he does, he STILL can't beat Hart, and it drives him crazy and drives him to drive Hart crazy, which finally, he does: all the trappings of babyface fighting champion Bret Hart get filed away by Austin, and the heel that Bret once was is left exposed.
The payoff, to me, has always been that as all this is going on, Michaels is also making Bret's life miserable and eventually becomes the tool the company uses to get rid of Bret because he's become so much trouble (like Austin had been, but now on a much bigger scale). And so it ends up that, once Bret is gone, it falls on Austin himself to be the one who avenges him by beating Michaels and driving him out.
So, yeah, best feud of all time.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 11, 2020 9:15:29 GMT -5
F*** Molson, I’m a Labatt’s Blue guy. Although I’d take a Canadian over a Bud Lite any day Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale >>>> your favorite canadian beer. Alexander Keith’s IPA. The favourite IPA of people who don’t actually drink IPA’s 😁 Keith’s is good tho. Their Red Amber Ale is good too |
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Post by evilhomer on Apr 11, 2020 9:25:23 GMT -5
F*** Molson, I’m a Labatt’s Blue guy. Although I’d take a Canadian over a Bud Lite any day Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale >>>> your favorite canadian beer. SLEEMAN'S. Don't argue with Al Capone. |
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