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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 18, 2020 0:59:01 GMT -5
Same rules as before: Keep this strictly facts and what's happening. No bringing in bad faith arguments, no referencing anything that isn't directly related to the WWE and their role in these times. If you post any news, it has to be sourced. The roster cuts have their own dedicated, pinned thread; this is for all other WWE-related aspects to this current situation.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 18, 2020 3:56:59 GMT -5
Glad WWE is scaling back on how much live TV they're filming, being live always was dumb and irresponsible. There's room to go further, but credit where credit is due on at least cutting down travel literally at all.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 18, 2020 3:59:45 GMT -5
The new schedule is a lot more sensible. Other than the two back to back weeks in June, talent can get quarantine time at home before going back.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 18, 2020 6:02:16 GMT -5
Seriously, some of the blowback could’ve been mitigated (though far from all, given the cuts and various financial shenanigans) if they had just done block taping right off the bat. Goes to show there was no need to go live, and highlights the demented decision making that gets done there, but at least the outcome here is more positive than it was 24 hours ago.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Apr 18, 2020 10:05:43 GMT -5
Seriously, some of the blowback could’ve been mitigated (though far from all, given the cuts and various financial shenanigans) if they had just done block taping right off the bat. Goes to show there was no need to go live, and highlights the demented decision making that gets done there, but at least the outcome here is more positive than it was 24 hours ago. With the way the past 48 hours have gone politically, I'm honestly shocked that Vince isn't having live shows 24/7. I'm guessing the bad press made him rethink the "every show will be on schedule" thing
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 18, 2020 11:41:04 GMT -5
I'm a surprised that Vince & his inner circle fingers were so off the pulse that they seemingly didn't expect the blow back.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Apr 18, 2020 11:53:57 GMT -5
Seriously, some of the blowback could’ve been mitigated (though far from all, given the cuts and various financial shenanigans) if they had just done block taping right off the bat. Goes to show there was no need to go live, and highlights the demented decision making that gets done there, but at least the outcome here is more positive than it was 24 hours ago. It works for AEW so there's reason to believe it would work for WWE. They used to tape a lot more before the Attitude Era and the explosion in demand at the time for live content.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 18, 2020 12:10:38 GMT -5
They should have done this from the very beginning. Since there was no crowd, there was no chance of spoilers being released. I liked the original schedule better though. They could have been finished with the entire month by the end of this weekend. Then, the wrestlers all could have been home with their families until next month when they have to tape again. This way, they still have to travel to Orlando every other week or so.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 18, 2020 12:42:40 GMT -5
Why doesn't WWE directly like to talk about Covid-19 and its affect on what they are doing & the rest of the world? It's not like other sports & entertainment brands are avoiding this massive elephant in the room. Why does WWE feel like they have to be different.
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 18, 2020 13:31:03 GMT -5
Why doesn't WWE directly like to talk about Covid-19 and its affect on what they are doing & the rest of the world? It's not like other sports & entertainment brands are avoiding this massive elephant in the room. Why does WWE feel like they have to be different. Look how hard they work to keep information on anyone who gets concussions quiet. I'd be more shocked if they were more straight forward about these things.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 18, 2020 13:49:59 GMT -5
Why doesn't WWE directly like to talk about Covid-19 and its affect on what they are doing & the rest of the world? It's not like other sports & entertainment brands are avoiding this massive elephant in the room. Why does WWE feel like they have to be different. To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of entertainment products like podcasts and YouTube videos completely dance around saying COVID or Coronavirus because people are sick of hearing it. It’s just “the crisis” or “current health issues” And, with WWE’s “smiles on people’s faces” edict, I’m not at all surprised they are really avoiding direct references on air
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 18, 2020 14:35:32 GMT -5
Why doesn't WWE directly like to talk about Covid-19 and its affect on what they are doing & the rest of the world? It's not like other sports & entertainment brands are avoiding this massive elephant in the room. Why does WWE feel like they have to be different. To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of entertainment products like podcasts and YouTube videos completely dance around saying COVID or Coronavirus because people are sick of hearing it. It’s just “the crisis” or “current health issues” And, with WWE’s “smiles on people’s faces” edict, I’m not at all surprised they are really avoiding direct references on air Pretty much my thinking. They're desperately trying to present the face of escapism without the real world involved. Except you're staring straight at a bunch of empty seats the entire time, so...
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 18, 2020 14:53:35 GMT -5
Why doesn't WWE directly like to talk about Covid-19 and its affect on what they are doing & the rest of the world? It's not like other sports & entertainment brands are avoiding this massive elephant in the room. Why does WWE feel like they have to be different. To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of entertainment products like podcasts and YouTube videos completely dance around saying COVID or Coronavirus because people are sick of hearing it. It’s just “the crisis” or “current health issues” And, with WWE’s “smiles on people’s faces” edict, I’m not at all surprised they are really avoiding direct references on air It would appear that any mention of "Steve Corino" on YouTube, outside of certain channels, will cause YouTube to demonetize the video. Oli, Luke and the boys have been quite diligent and crearive in stepping around it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 18, 2020 15:37:52 GMT -5
Seriously, some of the blowback could’ve been mitigated (though far from all, given the cuts and various financial shenanigans) if they had just done block taping right off the bat. Goes to show there was no need to go live, and highlights the demented decision making that gets done there, but at least the outcome here is more positive than it was 24 hours ago. It works for AEW so there's reason to believe it would work for WWE. They used to tape a lot more before the Attitude Era and the explosion in demand at the time for live content. Yeah, Impact's doing the "let's meet once a month or so and record a bunch of episodes" thing, too, and it seems to be working out alright. The whole fear apparently was "NBC and Fox will be pissed if we're not live, and they'll renegotiate the contracts to pay WWE less!", but there's just no evidence the networks were going to do that, not when they're not in much of a position of strength during all of this. What's the actual schedule they're going with, though? The way some people here are saying it sounds like they'll do every other week, which is still not great, but at least better than weekly.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 18, 2020 22:19:45 GMT -5
Their decision to do weekly live shows in the first place just showed a lot of their true colors to me imo. The fact this even had to be a DEBATE was scary enough.
I'm glad they've just gone back to a taping schedule because it's better for all parties involved. USA or FOX were never gonna do anything to them for it, every expectation for live programming has flown out the window at this point.
Only place that seems murky is the PPV deals unless like Double or Nothing is being taped in advance too.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Apr 18, 2020 23:08:26 GMT -5
Their decision to do weekly live shows in the first place just showed a lot of their true colors to me imo. The fact this even had to be a DEBATE was scary enough. I'm glad they've just gone back to a taping schedule because it's better for all parties involved. USA or FOX were never gonna do anything to them for it, every expectation for live programming has flown out the window at this point. Only place that seems murky is the PPV deals unless like Double or Nothing is being taped in advance too. They only other thing I could think is ad money as live sells better than taped, but that's just a speculative theory.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 18, 2020 23:18:48 GMT -5
It works for AEW so there's reason to believe it would work for WWE. They used to tape a lot more before the Attitude Era and the explosion in demand at the time for live content. Yeah, Impact's doing the "let's meet once a month or so and record a bunch of episodes" thing, too, and it seems to be working out alright. The whole fear apparently was "NBC and Fox will be pissed if we're not live, and they'll renegotiate the contracts to pay WWE less!", but there's just no evidence the networks were going to do that, not when they're not in much of a position of strength during all of this. What's the actual schedule they're going with, though? The way some people here are saying it sounds like they'll do every other week, which is still not great, but at least better than weekly. www.prowrestlingsheet.com/wwe-filming-schedule-adjustments-safety-covid/Most of it is double tapings (one live (ish), one taped).
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2020 4:12:52 GMT -5
Their decision to do weekly live shows in the first place just showed a lot of their true colors to me imo. The fact this even had to be a DEBATE was scary enough. I'm glad they've just gone back to a taping schedule because it's better for all parties involved. USA or FOX were never gonna do anything to them for it, every expectation for live programming has flown out the window at this point. Only place that seems murky is the PPV deals unless like Double or Nothing is being taped in advance too. They only other thing I could think is ad money as live sells better than taped, but that's just a speculative theory. Think for that to be true, the ratings and demos would have to be dramatically differ from a taped to a live show and that hasn’t ever really been the case.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 19, 2020 4:18:28 GMT -5
Got curious, so asked Meltz on something:
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 19, 2020 11:24:16 GMT -5
To be fair, I’ve seen a lot of entertainment products like podcasts and YouTube videos completely dance around saying COVID or Coronavirus because people are sick of hearing it. It’s just “the crisis” or “current health issues” And, with WWE’s “smiles on people’s faces” edict, I’m not at all surprised they are really avoiding direct references on air Pretty much my thinking. They're desperately trying to present the face of escapism without the real world involved. Except you're staring straight at a bunch of empty seats the entire time, so... It reminds me of how nearly every commercial on TV is of companies talking about these "uncertain times" and how hard they're working for you, without directly addressing Coronavirus.
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