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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 9, 2023 9:36:31 GMT -5
After reading so more on this, Kurtwood and Debra, Red and Kitty, also stood up for him too. Haven't seen any word from Topher, Laura or Wilmer yet. Laura Prepon allegedly played a role in intimidating his victims, so I don't expect to hear anything from her about this ever, and Wilmer Valderrama is a creep in his own right. Topher Grace might be the only That 70's Show star to come out of this unscathed.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Sept 9, 2023 9:48:54 GMT -5
Dumbass.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 9, 2023 10:23:18 GMT -5
Kurtwood Smith as Red, was truly the dumbass in the end.
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Post by 67 more on Sept 9, 2023 12:18:25 GMT -5
I've read some of those letters and I realise he's their friend, but Christ.
It's not like he killed someone in the heat of the moment or something understandable, he was a damn rapist. Couldn't give a f*** if he kept you all drug-free or how he treated people on set, he forcefully violated people. Get a clue.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Sept 9, 2023 14:23:53 GMT -5
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 9, 2023 14:27:38 GMT -5
"when he is not sexually assaulting women he's actually a really awesome guy" is quite the stance to take
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 9, 2023 15:49:19 GMT -5
Yeah..... about that.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 9, 2023 16:44:09 GMT -5
I'm not excusing Ashton for this, but looking back at the 00's it's really gross how often adult men were licking their lips waiting for the new "it" teenage actress or singer to turn 18. Like he was far from the only guy to do this. Doesn't seem as common now, at least. Or maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant about it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 9, 2023 16:47:23 GMT -5
"when he is not sexually assaulting women he's actually a really awesome guy" is quite the stance to take If you take out the murders then Jack the Ripper was a swell individual. I'm not excusing Ashton for this, but looking back at the 00's it's really gross how often adult men were licking their lips waiting for the new it teenage actress or singer to turn 18. Like he was far from the only guy to do this. Doesn't seem as common now, at least. Or maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant about it. Yeah, the early 200s were not a good time for shit like that. Just see discussion about Lindsay Lohan during that time.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Sept 9, 2023 17:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 9, 2023 20:13:55 GMT -5
"when he is not sexually assaulting women he's actually a really awesome guy" is quite the stance to take It reminds me of how one of the better handlings of this kind of thing I've seen was Winona Ryder when asked to weigh in on Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard, given she used to be romantically involved with him, I think maybe engaged? In any case, a serious relationship. She said that he had never abused her, but she also noted it'd been many years since they dated, and that her experience did not guarantee Amber's hadn't been entirely different. It just seems so ridiculous that many people can't fathom that the guy who lets you sleep on his couch, watches your pets when you're out of town, etc, a real good dude, can also have a dark side, but that's reality. Most people aren't predators, but predators don't spend their every waking moment committing crimes or they wouldn't last long, by virtue of them getting caught or them being unable to rationalize their actions to themselves. People do not tend to think of themselves as the villain in their own story, so if they spent all of their time on the warpath, they'd probably wind up throwing themselves off a bridge sooner or later when it all caught up to them.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 9, 2023 20:20:42 GMT -5
Setting aside that "those letters were never meant to be made public" is not an apology, I do find it kind of funny that this is the second time in exactly a month that somebody has been outed as supporting an absolute piece of shit via letters of support. Only difference is, folks are actually disappointed by the That 70's Show cast, whereas nobody actually expected better of Iggy Azalea (who wrote a letter of support for Tory Lanez, sentenced to 10 years in prison on August 8th).
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 9, 2023 20:22:43 GMT -5
Any time you have to release an apology that looks like a hostage video, you done effed up.
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Post by Scoops on Sept 9, 2023 21:57:14 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Chris Masterson: Brother? Yeah, Dewey's pretty rad!
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Post by Cyno on Sept 9, 2023 22:28:09 GMT -5
Like, I get how hard it can be to reconcile that someone you've not only known for years, but were close friends with, is a piece of shit rapist. But c'mon.
As for Laura Prepon, she was dating Danny's brother (the above mentioned one) at the time. And was also a Scientologist though she got away from them around 2016. If the rumors about her getting women for Danny was true, I wouldn't be surprised if they influenced her actions at the time.
Finally, while Topher Grace hasn't said anything publicly one way or another, his wife, Ashley Hinshaw, came out on social media to support victims of sexual violence (and firmly against supporting Masterson). I imagine he feels similarly.
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Post by ace on Sept 9, 2023 22:33:49 GMT -5
It feels like an easy thing to say writing those letters was horrible…that everything is easy and black and white. But I imagine finding out someone I’ve known for decades and loved did this and I’m not going to tell you that I wouldn’t write the letter. I’d like to think I wouldn’t. But I can’t know that. Perhaps I would find better ways to explain the qualities I saw in them than these people did…but I think the whole point of character witnesses is to present what your experience is with their character…not what you think of what they’re accused of.
That said…yeah…Topher isn’t having anything to do with these things. I’m almost surprised he came back for the Netflix revival.
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 9, 2023 22:44:06 GMT -5
That video comes off like William Shatner acting how to do a scripted speech that is supposed to look heartfelt. Also seems like they throw Danny's parents under the bus. They seem so far out of touch with reality of every day people's lives.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 10, 2023 2:12:55 GMT -5
Wait, they wrote these letters knowing he'd been found guilty? Yikes. Sod every one of them, they deserve the backlash they're getting for this.
I'm thankful he's seeing justice, given his association with a certain org, I expected him to just vanish into the ether as they've had a lot of practice just disappearing people.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 10, 2023 2:27:32 GMT -5
Didn't anyone tell Kunis and Kutcher that the proper way to do non apology videos now is to awkardly play the ukulele! "when he is not sexually assaulting women he's actually a really awesome guy" is quite the stance to take It's like I joke about... it's like saying well "I Was best friends with Johnny McMurderCannibal for 20 years and he never killed and ate me!"
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Post by castletonsnob on Sept 10, 2023 6:57:16 GMT -5
Investigate the entire Church of Scientology and shut them down once and for all.
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