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Post by Larryhausen on Dec 31, 2021 8:16:24 GMT -5
Also, why does Thomas Ian Griffith look more like Christopher Walken than Christopher Walken does?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 31, 2021 9:08:09 GMT -5
{Spoiler}"I spent months terrorizing a teenager over a high school karate tournament." LMAO
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 31, 2021 14:49:19 GMT -5
I watched all the season today, really enjoyed it
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Post by Rican on Dec 31, 2021 15:58:40 GMT -5
Trying to finish my rewatch before starting the new season. I’m about to finish season 2. This show is so good, man.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 31, 2021 18:04:21 GMT -5
I don't think it was quite as good as season 3, but man there is A LOT to discuss and dissect going into season 5. So many different stories. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1)It seems like everyone is going face (including Kreese) except for Terry Silver
2) Daniel enlists the help of CHOZEN. Will he help or will he prove to do more harm than good
3) Based on what we know and common sense prevailing, Stingray will eventually remember that it wasn't Kreese that kicked his ass but the guy with the ponytail. No way Kreese ends up going to jail. Can't see Kreese going back to Cobra Kai with Silver.
4)I think next season, Robbie and Miguel will fight to be Johnny's favorite son. Will Eagle Fang even exist? Will Johnny help Daniel and Chozen or stay away in his own thing.
5) Still no concrete clues to Tori's family. But I think we can rule out any Barnes relations. Think there would have been a hint.
6) I expect Barnes back for season 5. He is one of Silver's "Cobra Kai" friends he was referring to when it came to replacing Kreese.
7) Will Robbie and Tori leave Cobra Kai. Tori knows about the crooked referee, and showed remorse towards Sam. Robbie clearly wants out and recognizes the harm of Cobra Kai.
8) Kenny was a great addition.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 31, 2021 18:10:03 GMT -5
I don't think it was quite as good as season 3, but man there is A LOT to discuss and dissect going into season 5. So many different stories. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1)It seems like everyone is going face (including Kreese) except for Terry Silver
2) Daniel enlists the help of CHOZEN. Will he help or will he prove to do more harm than good
3) Based on what we know and common sense prevailing, Stingray will eventually remember that it wasn't Kreese that kicked his ass but the guy with the ponytail. No way Kreese ends up going to jail. Can't see Kreese going back to Cobra Kai with Silver.
4)I think next season, Robbie and Miguel will fight to be Johnny's favorite son. Will Eagle Fang even exist? Will Johnny help Daniel and Chozen or stay away in his own thing.
5) Still no concrete clues to Tori's family. But I think we can rule out any Barnes relations. Think there would have been a hint.
6) I expect Barnes back for season 5. He is one of Silver's "Cobra Kai" friends he was referring to when it came to replacing Kreese.
7) Will Robbie and Tori leave Cobra Kai. Tori knows about the crooked referee, and showed remorse towards Sam. Robbie clearly wants out and recognizes the harm of Cobra Kai.
8) Kenny was a great addition. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Stingray knows it wasn't Kreese who attacked him, it showed a brief flashback, so he's knowingly involved in the doublecross
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 31, 2021 20:49:26 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Broken Terry Silver?
And given today's news....seeing the memoriam for Ed Asner was harder to take. Was he in any S4 episodes before his passing?
Daniel's son as a bully.... interesting...
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 31, 2021 21:37:39 GMT -5
I don't think it was quite as good as season 3, but man there is A LOT to discuss and dissect going into season 5. So many different stories. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1)It seems like everyone is going face (including Kreese) except for Terry Silver
2) Daniel enlists the help of CHOZEN. Will he help or will he prove to do more harm than good
3) Based on what we know and common sense prevailing, Stingray will eventually remember that it wasn't Kreese that kicked his ass but the guy with the ponytail. No way Kreese ends up going to jail. Can't see Kreese going back to Cobra Kai with Silver.
4)I think next season, Robbie and Miguel will fight to be Johnny's favorite son. Will Eagle Fang even exist? Will Johnny help Daniel and Chozen or stay away in his own thing.
5) Still no concrete clues to Tori's family. But I think we can rule out any Barnes relations. Think there would have been a hint.
6) I expect Barnes back for season 5. He is one of Silver's "Cobra Kai" friends he was referring to when it came to replacing Kreese.
7) Will Robbie and Tori leave Cobra Kai. Tori knows about the crooked referee, and showed remorse towards Sam. Robbie clearly wants out and recognizes the harm of Cobra Kai.
8) Kenny was a great addition. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I still think Julie Pierce is Tori's mom. Or Jessica Andrews. I hope we see more from the scumbag aunt, though.
I wouldn't go so far as to say Kreese is turning face. At the start, Silver seemed to have turned himself around, and we could blame coke for a lot of what he did. But while he got Kreese out of the picture, he did it for his own selfish needs, and paying off referees and ambushing Johnny certainly just reinforce that he's evil, drugs or no drugs.
Silver talking about bringing in some "old friends" and Daniel saying he couldn't make any promises that more old Cobras won't show up certainly hint at a Mike Barnes comeback.
The Kenny/Anthony situation is certainly interesting. Now Anthony will surely want to take up karate after the ass-kicking he got in the locker room, but I have a feeling Daniel may be reluctant to teach him given that he was the bully the first time around, and may question his motives.
A little disappointed Bobby didn't show up this season.
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Post by edgestar on Dec 31, 2021 21:44:26 GMT -5
We binged it, today. Now, we wait for the next season!!!
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 1, 2022 5:43:53 GMT -5
Two episodes in. Loved Miguel referencing Rocky 3 to Johnny.
I hope they get Stallone or Carl Weathers to cameo in this show and interact with Johnny
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 1, 2022 11:40:52 GMT -5
It's as cheesy and ridiculous as every other season has been.
Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2022 17:13:41 GMT -5
Great season. At first I was like "Man, this is really repeating itself" but then the last two episodes went to insane places.
Friend of mine's comment on Terry's cocaine habit:
"A blizzard has come and it is threatening to ruin karate tournaments forever."
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 1, 2022 19:28:55 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Hawk is dead, long live Eli. He finally got true confidence. As Hawk his confidence was a facade, a mask. It was easy to make him feel like shit, the confidence he exuded was false. He learned actual confidence. Demetri had it, and now both Binary Brothers are confident karate bros. I don't think it was quite as good as season 3, but man there is A LOT to discuss and dissect going into season 5. So many different stories. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1)It seems like everyone is going face (including Kreese) except for Terry Silver
2) Daniel enlists the help of CHOZEN. Will he help or will he prove to do more harm than good
3) Based on what we know and common sense prevailing, Stingray will eventually remember that it wasn't Kreese that kicked his ass but the guy with the ponytail. No way Kreese ends up going to jail. Can't see Kreese going back to Cobra Kai with Silver.
4)I think next season, Robbie and Miguel will fight to be Johnny's favorite son. Will Eagle Fang even exist? Will Johnny help Daniel and Chozen or stay away in his own thing.
5) Still no concrete clues to Tori's family. But I think we can rule out any Barnes relations. Think there would have been a hint.
6) I expect Barnes back for season 5. He is one of Silver's "Cobra Kai" friends he was referring to when it came to replacing Kreese.
7) Will Robbie and Tori leave Cobra Kai. Tori knows about the crooked referee, and showed remorse towards Sam. Robbie clearly wants out and recognizes the harm of Cobra Kai.
8) Kenny was a great addition. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I still think Julie Pierce is Tori's mom. Or Jessica Andrews. I hope we see more from the scumbag aunt, though.
I wouldn't go so far as to say Kreese is turning face. At the start, Silver seemed to have turned himself around, and we could blame coke for a lot of what he did. But while he got Kreese out of the picture, he did it for his own selfish needs, and paying off referees and ambushing Johnny certainly just reinforce that he's evil, drugs or no drugs.
Silver talking about bringing in some "old friends" and Daniel saying he couldn't make any promises that more old Cobras won't show up certainly hint at a Mike Barnes comeback.
The Kenny/Anthony situation is certainly interesting. Now Anthony will surely want to take up karate after the ass-kicking he got in the locker room, but I have a feeling Daniel may be reluctant to teach him given that he was the bully the first time around, and may question his motives.
A little disappointed Bobby didn't show up this season. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I don't think that Julie is Tory's mom. Julie didn't have a sister in Next Karate Kid, and her parents were already dead.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 1, 2022 23:24:08 GMT -5
So I'm three episodes in. Is it sad that the character I'm most curious to see what happens to is Cheyenne?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 1, 2022 23:29:30 GMT -5
I really like her in it, but it always kind of makes me snicker seeing Peyton List playing this vicious badass when she seems really nice in interviews, very much unlike her character.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 1, 2022 23:46:16 GMT -5
Another thing worth repeating. I can't say it with 100 per cent confidence, and perhaps it would be a jumping the shark moment, but perhaps they planted the seeds for a huge reveal down the road? {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Kreese is Johnny's father
Silver said that Johnny is Kreese's weakness. That flashback where Johnny was curious about the box and his mom wanted him to forget about his biological dad. Plus the Miguel storyline may strike a chord with him.
Also Kreese told Silver to lay off. And could Johnny be a nick name for John Jr?
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 2, 2022 10:43:19 GMT -5
Episode 4 done.... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Are they doubling down on the Daniel is the real bully meme on purpose? Both LaRusso girls came off like that even though they had reasons to be mad at Tory. And Tony....nuff said. Though he seems to go along with his friends but hesitates when his friends tell him to do things to Kenny.
The "fat rich guy" :-( :-( DID Ed Asner do any episodes before his passing? I guess I'll see. Doubt it, but...
Loads of lampshading about karate melees breaking out, including during the drive-in scene. Can we get some for every season being "Daniel and Johnny being friends, then having tension, rinse and repeat?"
I like the idea of Robby showing people Miyagi Do's secrets/likely strategies/combining their style with Cobra Kai's. Hope there's a payoff.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jan 2, 2022 10:51:22 GMT -5
Also, why does Thomas Ian Griffith look more like Christopher Walken than Christopher Walken does? His first scene made him look like Broken Matt Hardy, down to the red robe and piano. There are wrestling fans on the CK team, so I wonder if this was intentional.
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Post by corndog on Jan 2, 2022 12:30:23 GMT -5
I don't think it was quite as good as season 3, but man there is A LOT to discuss and dissect going into season 5. So many different stories. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1)It seems like everyone is going face (including Kreese) except for Terry Silver
2) Daniel enlists the help of CHOZEN. Will he help or will he prove to do more harm than good
3) Based on what we know and common sense prevailing, Stingray will eventually remember that it wasn't Kreese that kicked his ass but the guy with the ponytail. No way Kreese ends up going to jail. Can't see Kreese going back to Cobra Kai with Silver.
4)I think next season, Robbie and Miguel will fight to be Johnny's favorite son. Will Eagle Fang even exist? Will Johnny help Daniel and Chozen or stay away in his own thing.
5) Still no concrete clues to Tori's family. But I think we can rule out any Barnes relations. Think there would have been a hint.
6) I expect Barnes back for season 5. He is one of Silver's "Cobra Kai" friends he was referring to when it came to replacing Kreese.
7) Will Robbie and Tori leave Cobra Kai. Tori knows about the crooked referee, and showed remorse towards Sam. Robbie clearly wants out and recognizes the harm of Cobra Kai.
8) Kenny was a great addition. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Stingray knows it wasn't Kreese who attacked him, it showed a brief flashback, so he's knowingly involved in the doublecross An interesting season, I can't see it going for another 2 seasons though, they would be really pushing it. As far as thoughts after watching it all {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}1. Kreese showing he is not completely evil was interesting, basically him and Silver did a double turn. I thought everything he did was manipulation, but its clear he actually cared about Johnny, Tori and even Robbie.
2. Hawk winning was an interesting surprise.
3. Silver is a nutjob and we are definitely going to see Barnes next season.
4. I think Robbie will be the first to leave Cobra Kai, I wonder if he even goes back. I think Tory sticks around for a little bit, especially with Silver having money to support her, she will be torn.
5. I think Kreese gets out because Stingray will eventually tell the truth once he realizes how evil and crazy Silver really is.
6. We know what Daniel will be up, training with Chozen. But we don't really know where Johnny will be in all this, but I see him being torn between Robbie and Miguel.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 2, 2022 13:40:48 GMT -5
How do you do the Spoiler tags? I wanted to comment on the final episode of Season 4 but don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
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