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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 28, 2021 10:38:48 GMT -5
New Japan would gain nothing from working with them. Remember how people thought Evolve would do so by working with WWE? The only reason they are even considering it is because New Japan has expanded the past seven years and they want to stop it before it gets big enough. NJPW’s growth has stalled big time since the exodus of the Elite. WWE isn’t worried about their business being overtaken on that end.
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Post by 06vwgti on May 28, 2021 10:38:55 GMT -5
That would be great. I’m sure Bryan would be more interested in signing if he could work New Japan as well. The exclusive part doesn't sound good.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on May 28, 2021 10:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 28, 2021 10:51:57 GMT -5
This intrigues me a lot more than them with AEW Gave me Ishii vs Roman I’m definitely intrigued by a WWE/NJPW partnership, but I feel way more comfortable with the “everyone except WWE” grouping. The thing I really feel should be talked about from this story is the shift away from the “that’s just pro wrestling, we’re something else” mentality. I believe Hunter has been sincere when he says “if it makes sense for us, we’ll work with anyone” and now that Nick Khan is pushing things in the direction of embracing pro wrestling not running from it we could see some interesting shit over the next year or two. I don’t know if we’ll see anything come out of this NJPW story, but if WWE got into bed with an MLW or NOAH or something I can only see positives from WWE’s side.
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Post by Totorob101 on May 28, 2021 10:51:59 GMT -5
WWE have nothing to offer NJPW so its incredible that they are even listening to them,its a big worry as a fan of NJPW.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on May 28, 2021 10:55:10 GMT -5
WWE have nothing to offer NJPW so its incredible that they are even listening to them,its a big worry as a fan of NJPW. Are we so sure about that?
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Post by chrom on May 28, 2021 10:56:59 GMT -5
New Japan would gain nothing from working with them. Remember how people thought Evolve would do so by working with WWE? The only reason they are even considering it is because New Japan has expanded the past seven years and they want to stop it before it gets big enough. NJPW’s growth has stalled big time since the exodus of the Elite. WWE isn’t worried about their business being overtaken on that end. Even with the Elite leaving, New Japan continued to get record sales and profits as well as starting up the New Japan of America Dojo to do shows in the US which would've been touring if not for Corona.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 28, 2021 10:57:04 GMT -5
I just wish it wasn't exclusive. It's been fun getting to see New Japan talent popping up all over the place recently. Hopefully it doesn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 11:03:30 GMT -5
I think in the end both would want basically the samething more or less.
WWE wants to expand into Japan and NJPW has been trying to establish their own foothold in NA so it is mutually beneficial from both sides....NJPW helps promote WWE shows in Japan etc and NJPW would say get their big shows broadcast on the WWE network/Peacock etc.
So there are reasons for both to get into preverbial bed with one another....what I see being the sticking point is both companies are gonna want to use the other big name talents and how that would play out.
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Post by Cyno on May 28, 2021 11:05:38 GMT -5
NJPW’s growth has stalled big time since the exodus of the Elite. WWE isn’t worried about their business being overtaken on that end. Ever with the Elite leaving, New Japan continued to get record sales and profits as well as starting up the New Japan of America Dojo to do shows in the US which would've been touring if not for Corona. The pandemic has hurt NJPW's business (and to be fair, everyone else's) a lot more than the Elite's leaving ever did. And it's going to continue to put a strain on any cross-promotional things until Japan gets their shit together.
I see where the benefit lies with WWE, but I think this is only a bad idea for NJPW, especially if it's exclusive. WWE's poor track record playing nice with others speaks for itself and even with Nick Khan trying to change things, it's still McMahon's company. You're going to have to deal with his monopolistic attitudes and making his company look good at your expense. Plus, if I was New Japan, I'd look long and hard at how badly the WWE Performance Center/NXT functions as a developmental entity and wonder if I really want to make that my only destination in the US for its Young Lions instead of keeping options open like it currently does.
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Post by metylerca on May 28, 2021 11:12:13 GMT -5
I’m sure in no way this will lead to an Okada/Baron Corbin match as RAW rolls on…
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2021 11:13:10 GMT -5
WWE have nothing to offer NJPW so its incredible that they are even listening to them,its a big worry as a fan of NJPW. Are we so sure about that? Yeah, I don't see the rationale in saying WWE has nothing to offer They have a ton to offer. In terms of two big giants, this is good for both since they really can't step over each other and no one plays the little brother role
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Post by warden on May 28, 2021 11:13:44 GMT -5
Maybe we'll finally get the dream match of The Ace vs Big Match John.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 11:13:55 GMT -5
Really I'd rather just wrestling companies stick to themselves and not interact - my personal view is that if you want to watch a company's people you should watch that company and (when more involved cross-company stuff happens) you shouldn't need to follow multiple shows to know what's going on - but if it must happen I'd rather it never under any circumstances happen with WWE.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 28, 2021 11:16:16 GMT -5
WWE and NJPW have worked together before, many years back, and then there was Jushin Liger swinging by NXT.
Still, as much as I know NJPW probably could use the cash, and might be looking for something to placate their workers, this is a bad idea if it's exclusive. I do hope they will heed Suzuki's wisdom when he said Japan and Mexico are the final bastions against WWE's homogenization of wrestling.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 28, 2021 11:20:12 GMT -5
NJPW’s growth has stalled big time since the exodus of the Elite. WWE isn’t worried about their business being overtaken on that end. Ever with the Elite leaving, New Japan continued to get record sales and profits as well as starting up the New Japan of America Dojo to do shows in the US which would've been touring if not for Corona. Right, NJPW *were* doing well, but the pandemic has been rather difficult for all of Japanese wrestling, them included. Morale is also down as of late due to the Japanese government royally f***ing up the pandemic response trying to make the 2021 Olympics happen, Ospreay being given the world title after attacking his girlfriend in the ring in an angle that didn't sit well with a number of fans and wrestlers alike, and then him vacating the title after a neck injury and a good deal of the roster also out due to COVID or travel restrictions stranding them around the world. It's a difficult time for NJPW. WWE could help them in the short term, but I remain skeptical about the long term potential consequences.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 28, 2021 11:21:05 GMT -5
Really I'd rather just wrestling companies stick to themselves and not interact - my personal view is that if you want to watch a company's people you should watch that company and you shouldn't need to follow multiple shows to know what's going on - but if it must happen I'd rather it never under any circumstances happen with WWE. Kenny Omega has been on Impact for months, and Good Brothers have been on Dynamite. Both stories exist relatively independent of each other. There’s nothing about Kenny’s AEW story that you can’t understand by solely watching Dynamite and there’s no part of Good Brother’s Impact storylines you can’t figure out by only watching Impact. Everything that’s crossed over thus far in this “forbidden door” (f*** that name is lame) stuff has existed independently. Watching NJPW isn’t essential to understanding Mox’s story, even tho he’s an IWGP champion
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 28, 2021 11:24:10 GMT -5
Really I'd rather just wrestling companies stick to themselves and not interact - my personal view is that if you want to watch a company's people you should watch that company and you shouldn't need to follow multiple shows to know what's going on - but if it must happen I'd rather it never under any circumstances happen with WWE. Kenny Omega has been on Impact for months, and Good Brothers have been on Dynamite. Both stories exist relatively independent of each other. There’s nothing about Kenny’s AEW story that you can’t understand by solely watching Dynamite and there’s no part of Good Brother’s Impact storylines you can’t figure out by only watching Impact. Everything that’s crossed over thus far in this “forbidden door” (f*** that name is lame) stuff has existed independently. Watching NJPW isn’t essential to understanding Mox’s story, even tho he’s an IWGP champion Tho what I hate is, how Impact has gotten treated. Omega appearing on Impact is huge but no reason Rich Swann or the new number one contender Moose shouldn't be on Impact chasing Omega on his home field
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2021 11:24:21 GMT -5
Really I'd rather just wrestling companies stick to themselves and not interact - my personal view is that if you want to watch a company's people you should watch that company and you shouldn't need to follow multiple shows to know what's going on - but if it must happen I'd rather it never under any circumstances happen with WWE. Kenny Omega has been on Impact for months, and Good Brothers have been on Dynamite. Both stories exist relatively independent of each other. There’s nothing about Kenny’s AEW story that you can’t understand by solely watching Dynamite and there’s no part of Good Brother’s Impact storylines you can’t figure out by only watching Impact. Everything that’s crossed over thus far in this “forbidden door” (f*** that name is lame) stuff has existed independently. Watching NJPW isn’t essential to understanding Mox’s story, even tho he’s an IWGP champion I mean, that doesn't really have anything to do with my broader point? I wasn't saying that always happens but it can be a consequence of it. I probably should've phrased it better but in either case I'm really just of the opinion that if I'm watching AEW I want to see AEW guys.
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Post by Cyno on May 28, 2021 11:25:33 GMT -5
Are we so sure about that? Yeah, I don't see the rationale in saying WWE has nothing to offer They have a ton to offer. In terms of two big giants, this is good for both since they really can't step over each other and no one plays the little brother role They have a lot to offer each other, but I also wouldn't trust the face-eating leopard that is WWE to not try to eat my face if I was NJPW.
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