10 years ago today... (CM Punk's "pipebomb" promo)

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

...CM Punk had a lot of things he wanted to get off his chest.

Definitely one of the most significant moments in wrestling history, with a littany of follow-up "butterfly effect" hypotheticals that will haunt WWE until the day it closes.

[chazraps]

Shouts-out to the handful of skeptics in the original thread who said this would be completely forgotten about in six months.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Jun 27, 2021 2:17:16 GMT -5 chazraps said:

Shouts-out to the handful of skeptics in the original thread who said this would be completely forgotten about in six months.

Right, who could forget the whole storyline technically ending in a Triple H v Kevin Nash ladder match?

(CM Punk isn't even the biggest "unperson" involved in the whole thing, that would probably be Alberto Del Rio now with all his criminal troubles)

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Whether it's Jericho's debut promo or CM Punk's Pipebomb. 20 Years. 10 Years. What they said isn't a lie and it honestly gets more and more true as the years go on.

On the flipside, Colt Cabana is doing great these days!

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

It's been 10 years and I am still insanely curious about that personal Vince McMahon story and how it correlated to the Anti-Bullying campaign because I can't remember him ever telling it.

[Andee9001]

It was a cool moment when it happened but i feel like the impact got dulled as the years went on because a lot of the shock factor relied on how "inside" it felt:

Oh my god he mentioned Paul Heyman - Heyman returns to the company
Oh my god he mentioned Brock Lesnar - he returns too
He mentioned ROH and Colt - they worked with them on documentaries
He mentioned backstage people like Johnny Ace - now he's a character
Punk seems legit pissed - oh wait he's still on the Australia tour

For me it just doesn't stand the test of time. That also has to do with how the storyline went and where Punk ended up. I know i may be alone in thinking that though.

[Bo Rida]

Jun 27, 2021 3:34:39 GMT -5 Andee9001 said:

It was a cool moment when it happened but i feel like the impact got dulled as the years went on because a lot of the shock factor relied on how "inside" it felt:

Oh my god he mentioned Paul Heyman - Heyman returns to the company
Oh my god he mentioned Brock Lesnar - he returns too
He mentioned ROH and Colt - they worked with them on documentaries
He mentioned backstage people like Johnny Ace - now he's a character
Punk seems legit pissed - oh wait he's still on the Australia tour

For me it just doesn't stand the test of time. That also has to do with how the storyline went and where Punk ended up. I know i may be alone in thinking that though.

On the flip side I think Punk was amazing at creating a legit shoot feel while rarely* breaking kayfabe and that's why the angle worked and is still talked about a decade later.

* Except that awful line with hhh using their real names.

[DiBiase is Good]

Guess who is the featured article on Wikipedia today.

[thechase]

Jun 27, 2021 3:34:39 GMT -5 Andee9001 said:

Oh my god he mentioned Paul Heyman - Heyman returns to the company
Oh my god he mentioned Brock Lesnar - he returns too
He mentioned ROH and Colt - they worked with them on documentaries
He mentioned backstage people like Johnny Ace - now he's a character
Punk seems legit pissed - oh wait he's still on the Australia tour

Those were good things, it's called 'planting seeds', it's just as good as when a comics or television character makes cryptic comments on future developments that ended up coming true. WWE are storytellers, not dirtsheets or WOR

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Jun 27, 2021 4:20:18 GMT -5 DiBiase is Good said:

Guess who is the featured article on Wikipedia today.

Stephanie McMahon?

WWE took the wrong lesson from the Pipebomb. What made it great, was that Punk was railing against the WWE machine. His target wasn't Cena, he even mentioned that he liked Cena, he just hates the idea that Cena is better than him. His target was Vince and the machine. WWE forgot that, and had these "pipebombs" where somebody buried their opponent.

[Heartbreaker]

I went to a houseshow that Saturday and it was great. Punk tried shit talking Vince again, the mic cut and then he had an awesome match with Rey Mysterio. Now excuse me while I cry because I hate time.

[Pushed to the Moon]

Jun 27, 2021 3:01:36 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

It's been 10 years and I am still insanely curious about that personal Vince McMahon story and how it correlated to the Anti-Bullying campaign because I can't remember him ever telling it.

I assume it was just a made up cliff hanger to say just as they cut his mic.

[Ben Wyatt]

Jun 27, 2021 5:19:26 GMT -5 Jedi-El of Tomorrow said:

Jun 27, 2021 4:20:18 GMT -5 DiBiase is Good said:

Guess who is the featured article on Wikipedia today.

Stephanie McMahon?

WWE took the wrong lesson from the Pipebomb. What made it great, was that Punk was railing against the WWE machine. His target wasn't Cena, he even mentioned that he liked Cena, he just hates the idea that Cena is better than him. His target was Vince and the machine. WWE forgot that, and had these "pipebombs" where somebody buried their opponent.

See: AJ Lee's "pipebombshell"

[Deleted]

I know people loved this storyline but to be honest, I wasn't a big fan of it.

Not only was it written poorly but I just don't like to see the whole "worked shoot" thing in my wrestling.

I like being able to switch off. I don't like being constantly reminded that it's all fake and "they keep booking me to lose bro!"

Its cheap, it's lazy and I'm tired of it.

Give me Kane vs Taker storytelling any day over this stuff.

[adamclark52]

I liked when they had AJ Lee pretend to do one a year or two later

[lucas_lee]

Jun 27, 2021 10:04:03 GMT -5 @negan said:

I know people loved this storyline but to be honest, I wasn't a big fan of it.

Not only was it written poorly but I just don't like to see the whole "worked shoot" thing in my wrestling.

I like being able to switch off. I don't like being constantly reminded that it's all fake and "they keep booking me to lose bro!"

Its cheap, it's lazy and I'm tired of it.

Give me Kane vs Taker storytelling any day over this stuff.

To me it didn't go overboard until HHH got involved. And I like Kane and Taker stuff but some of those whacky storyline choices for them was odd

[fw91]

"Hi Colt Cobana, how you doin" certainly hasn't aged well.

[The Kevstaaa]

At the time, it felt like the coolest thing ever but I don't think it aged well. Miz's Talking Smack promo >>>>>

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

A great moment, no doubt. Helped catapult the guy to his premier work and leave the business. Changed the company too. At the time, it really rejuvenated my interest in wrestling that’d been waning since ‘06//‘07.

[The Ichi]

Jun 27, 2021 3:01:36 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

It's been 10 years and I am still insanely curious about that personal Vince McMahon story and how it correlated to the Anti-Bullying campaign because I can't remember him ever telling it.

I thought he followed it up the next week by saying Vince is the biggest bully there is.