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Post by sunnytaker on Jul 16, 2021 17:18:22 GMT -5
I am so tired of the "two feet" spot these days. Every Rumble, someone finds a new way to lay on the floor without their feet touching the ground. It looks ridiculous. wasn;t that an on the fly change when HBK had one foot accidently brush the ground in the rumble he was supposed to win before he managed to skin the cat his way back into the ring? then they just kept it from then on. now they've gone to make sure it happens every time. john morrison and kacy catenzaro are a couple of others who have done that a few times besides kofi and naomi. not counting new day antics like the pancake save.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Jul 16, 2021 17:19:07 GMT -5
If they never do the goddamn "He/She went through/under the ropes, he/she isn't eliminated" shit ever again it'll be the greatest thing ever.
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Post by chrom on Jul 16, 2021 17:25:56 GMT -5
I always love the guy that comes in and gets tossed out in seconds better if they run in like a bull, always gets me laughing. Santino doing that and breaking the record never gets old
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Post by Mike Strike on Jul 16, 2021 17:46:09 GMT -5
Throwing someone over the top and turning your back assuming they went out of the ring. Not only is it overused but it’s incredibly illogical and makes the person who did it look like a total moron. The other guys still in the ring are a bigger threat. How many times has someone been eliminated immediately after an elimination of their own?
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Post by mrpeacock on Jul 16, 2021 17:49:04 GMT -5
I am so tired of the "two feet" spot these days. Every Rumble, someone finds a new way to lay on the floor without their feet touching the ground. It looks ridiculous. wasn;t that an on the fly change when HBK had one foot accidently brush the ground in the rumble he was supposed to win before he managed to skin the cat his way back into the ring? then they just kept it from then on. now they've gone to make sure it happens every time. john morrison and kacy catenzaro are a couple of others who have done that a few times besides kofi and naomi. not counting new day antics like the pancake save. The two foot rule had been established for awhile for battle royals but as far as I know it was never used as a spot before.
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Post by saneiac on Jul 16, 2021 19:08:27 GMT -5
Throwing someone over the top and turning your back assuming they went out of the ring. Not only is it overused but it’s incredibly illogical and makes the person who did it look like a total moron. Kind of similar, but dumber, throwing someone over the top to the floor, then standing there taunting them with your back to everyone else. Possibly including leaning waaaay over the top rope to point your finger in their face. I actually DO like the rare occasions where someone hits a big move and covers for a pin. Doing that should be purely on instinct in pro wrestlers.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jul 16, 2021 20:00:04 GMT -5
That annoyed me since they had previously established a rule that if you don't make it to the ring before the next entrant, you're automatically eliminated. I had the same problem with the Billie Kay shenanigans this past year. Though it's the Royal Rumble and the rules change from year to year. I know for sure at one point it was not making it to the ringside area after you number was called (91 with Savage, 94 with Bastion Booger, 98 with Skull of DOA). I think as long as you come through the curtain and make it towards the ringside area you're OK like Billie Kay, Nunzio in 04, Heath Slater, etc. I wanna say Spike Dudley was attacked on the way to the ring and never made it and they said later on that since the next entrant entered, Spike was disqualified. Could be wrong and it could've been somebody else but I swear they specifically said that rule on commentary before.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jul 16, 2021 20:04:13 GMT -5
I know for sure at one point it was not making it to the ringside area after you number was called (91 with Savage, 94 with Bastion Booger, 98 with Skull of DOA). I think as long as you come through the curtain and make it towards the ringside area you're OK like Billie Kay, Nunzio in 04, Heath Slater, etc. I wanna say Spike Dudley was attacked on the way to the ring and never made it and they said later on that since the next entrant entered, Spike was disqualified. Could be wrong and it could've been somebody else but I swear they specifically said that rule on commentary before. 1991 they did (the first time there was a no-show for the Rumble match, fancy that) when nobody came out at #18, then Animal came out at #19 the commentary said "well, I guess someone just missed their chance!"
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 16, 2021 20:07:52 GMT -5
I know for sure at one point it was not making it to the ringside area after you number was called (91 with Savage, 94 with Bastion Booger, 98 with Skull of DOA). I think as long as you come through the curtain and make it towards the ringside area you're OK like Billie Kay, Nunzio in 04, Heath Slater, etc. I wanna say Spike Dudley was attacked on the way to the ring and never made it and they said later on that since the next entrant entered, Spike was disqualified. Could be wrong and it could've been somebody else but I swear they specifically said that rule on commentary before. That one I attribute to the force of the attack preventing him from going in, thus a forfeiture of his spot. Same thing happened in 2005 to Scotty 2 Hotty when he was attacked by Muhammad Hassan on the way to the ring after Hassan's elimination. However, if you're back out by the final entrant you're good if you've already made an attempt to go to the ring, as was shown in 1998 when Owen Hart was allowed in the match after he was attacked by Jeff Jarrett (ironic considering their tag team a year later) and Jim Cornette.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jul 16, 2021 20:34:51 GMT -5
Was it last year Billie Kay didn’t actually go in the ring for about 20 minutes? Just stood outside the ring and then going on commentary? Why even bother entering the ring at all? Everyone else looked like f***ing morons.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 16, 2021 20:35:31 GMT -5
Was it last year Billie Kay didn’t actually go in the ring for about 20 minutes? Just stood outside the ring and then going on commentary? Why even bother entering the ring at all? Everyone else looked like f***ing morons. Earlier this year, actually.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jul 17, 2021 4:02:31 GMT -5
Funny isn't it how when we have pre Rumble segments where they are picking out their numbers.
The first 2 to do so always coincidently draw out 1 and 30. The Eddie Guerrero/Ric Flair one was fun, but then it happened again a year later with Triple H and Randy Orton.
Whilst we are at it, I don't want to know who Entries 1 and 2 are..Enough with the Angles where you make someone the Number 1 entry before hand..May not be a trope but I feel it is worth mentioning.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 17, 2021 4:21:07 GMT -5
I hate when someone does the "skin the cat" spot who can't do it quickly, though I at least get it and they've had enough people get eliminated after by people who just wait for them to complete it. It's more obnoxious when someone does it in matches where being thrown out wouldn't eliminate you, so they're just exhausting themselves for no particular reason.
I do think we need a moratorium on people rolling out of the ring and hiding or otherwise not doing anything most of the match. It got boring. Even "both feet have to touch" spots, which also need a break, require some kind of skill or creativity.
I will make an exception in that I'd be okay with it if WWE or whoever would rip off when Lucha Underground had Joey Ryan handcuff himself while outside the ring in order to not get eliminated in Aztec Warfare, LU's Royal Rumble equivalent. I was cool with it there because everyone who entered after Joey would go and wail on him before getting into the ring, so he just got the shit kicked out of him. It didn't ultimately prevent him from the winner of the match getting him into the ring and eliminating him, either. That was at least a satisfying subversion.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 17, 2021 4:23:22 GMT -5
I have an easier time listing the ones I hate, and I'm someone who looks forward to the Rumble match every year. My least favorite being the one where someone who's already been eliminated (or isn't even in the match) runs in and eliminates one of the participants. The rule should be if you get knocked outside, you have 10 seconds to get back in the ring or you are eliminated automatically. Well gorilla monsoon at times in the early rumbles did yell at the refs to get the guys who went under the bottom rope.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 17, 2021 4:25:37 GMT -5
Throwing someone over the top and turning your back assuming they went out of the ring. Not only is it overused but it’s incredibly illogical and makes the person who did it look like a total moron. Kind of similar, but dumber, throwing someone over the top to the floor, then standing there taunting them with your back to everyone else. Possibly including leaning waaaay over the top rope to point your finger in their face. I actually DO like the rare occasions where someone hits a big move and covers for a pin. Doing that should be purely on instinct in pro wrestlers. Except when savage tried it in 1993 and got eliminated by yoko and he looked like an idiot.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 17, 2021 4:39:34 GMT -5
Another is the the Luger and Bret spot at the end of the rumble which they’ve tried at least twice(cena and Batista the other time) because it’s very hard to get right.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jul 17, 2021 5:46:58 GMT -5
Another is the the Luger and Bret spot at the end of the rumble which they’ve tried at least twice(cena and Batista the other time) because it’s very hard to get right. I think the key to the execution that time was doing it on the side away from the hard cam, and having the ground camera guys well timed to have the apron in the way so we can't see the feet hitting. The Cena and Batista one being on the ramp side and having cameras pointed directly at it really screwed them up.
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Post by msc on Jul 17, 2021 8:13:01 GMT -5
Another is the the Luger and Bret spot at the end of the rumble which they’ve tried at least twice(cena and Batista the other time) because it’s very hard to get right. I think the key to the execution that time was doing it on the side away from the hard cam, and having the ground camera guys well timed to have the apron in the way so we can't see the feet hitting. The Cena and Batista one being on the ramp side and having cameras pointed directly at it really screwed them up. Everyone involved says the Cena/Batista one was a mistimed spot going wrong and I tend to believe them, because I can't believe Big Dave would take that spot deliberately. Could have gone easily badly wrong for him.
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Post by chrom on Jul 17, 2021 8:22:27 GMT -5
One of my most despised is the spot where two face partners just start wailing away at each other instead of, you know, trying to work together as a team. The concept of "Everyman for himself" brainwashes faces and exposes them as idiots. You better believe if my tag partner/friend cheapshots me during the Rumble the team is dissolved. Only exception being Demolition being numbers 1 and 2 who whale on each other and as soon as number 3 came out they immediately started teaming again
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Post by cornettesracket on Jul 17, 2021 8:29:07 GMT -5
One of my most despised is the spot where two face partners just start wailing away at each other instead of, you know, trying to work together as a team. The concept of "Everyman for himself" brainwashes faces and exposes them as idiots. You better believe if my tag partner/friend cheapshots me during the Rumble the team is dissolved. Only exception being Demolition being numbers 1 and 2 who whale on each other and as soon as number 3 came out they immediately started teaming again Well the hardy boys did something similar in 2001 and then teamed up when the next person came out.
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