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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 17, 2021 12:21:38 GMT -5
Ghost Hunters
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Post by karl100589 on Aug 17, 2021 12:43:55 GMT -5
Not really watched “On The Buses” seen some clips, and other then the Blakey character.. it looks really awful.. even the canned laughter sounded really unenthusiastic. I had never seen it until one Christmas when I saw it by accident, and it was absolutely wretched. The writing encapsulated every bad stereotype of seventies British comedy, and the actors were all trying to outdo each other. My mum once got taken to a recording of it as a teenager and still talks about how awful it was.
Honestly outside of Rising Damp every ITV sitcom from that era was trash.
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Post by Muskrat on Aug 17, 2021 14:51:09 GMT -5
Just going by what I saw in a certain review series...how did Canadian sitcom "Hangin' In" last 7 seasons? Probably CanCon rules. If they're cheap to produce, Canadian made shows like that often limp along way longer then you'd expect so they can satisfy CanCon rules rather then spend the money to develop something new.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 17, 2021 14:55:01 GMT -5
This is going to sound weird but I'm going to say TNG bares mentioning giving how while eventually it was a damn good show, the first season is a dumpster fire and the second while it has some highlights is mostly still pretty damn bad. It's a miracle it stayed on the air long enough to hit its stride. I see where you’re getting at. I think what helped was that it got pretty high ratings, plus being syndicated helps. They didn’t have a network to answer too. As mediocre the first two seasons were, it was still pretty successful from the start. Speaking of syndication. Even though it was canceled in its first season on NBC, Baywatch, in syndication, is the perfect answer to this question. It was on for over 10 years and was legit the most watched show in the world….and it was a huge piece of shit. TNG S1 and 2 had a few standout episodes and people were honestly so hyped for a new Star Trek show that they put up with a lot of the mediocrity until it hit its stride.
Though I wonder how much of S1 and 2 was considered good enough first-run until later seasons made it look awful by comparison. It'd be interesting to time travel to the 80's and see the initial reactions to some of those episodes. Though as I understand it, Wesley Crusher was always pretty despised and his hatred was not something that was retroactive.
It is funny that, outside of The Original Series (where Season 3 was by far the worst of the series), it feels like every Star Trek series is at its worst in the first couple of seasons but only gets better. Even Enterprise, though unfortunately that got canceled while it was starting to hit its stride.
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Post by Paul on Aug 17, 2021 14:58:09 GMT -5
Hillside / Fifteen. Nickelodeon used to air it (as "Fifteen) and I never understood who it was supposed to appeal to. Awful scripts and sub-standard acting.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 17, 2021 15:10:31 GMT -5
Just going by what I saw in a certain review series...how did Canadian sitcom "Hangin' In" last 7 seasons? Probably CanCon rules. If they're cheap to produce, Canadian made shows like that often limp along way longer then you'd expect so they can satisfy CanCon rules rather then spend the money to develop something new. That also explains the inexplicable amount of shows from the Trouble with Tracy. Basically the CTV needed to create more original Canadian content, and with no real budget or resources, ended up cutting a lot of corners to get the (130!) episodes in a single season made. This meant cheap and/or wobbly sets, no filming outside, use of a laugh track, no retakes, and most significantly, recycling 25-year-old radio comedy scripts for the stories. Now the thing is, most bad comedy out there comes from stale gags, shallow characters, forced punchlines, jokes based on stereotypes, or moments that are more to shock than amuse. However, you can still see them and recognize the attempts at humor, albeit ones that fall flat on their face. Even Big Bang Theory which gets laughs from "hey the characters mentioned this nerdy thing" may be lazy yet one can see how its intended to be humorous, even if it isn't to you personally. With Trouble with Tracy though, the combination of outdated scripts, the rushed production, and the actors clearly having little time to develop any sense of delivery or timing with their scenes creates a sitcom where it's not bad jokes that don't work... but a series where it honestly impossible to see what the jokes are even supposed to be:
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 17, 2021 15:19:03 GMT -5
'Drawn Together'. I don't know if it went more than one season, but it sure seemed like it.
Easily the worst show I think I've ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2021 15:56:23 GMT -5
The correct answer to this thread:
Whichever shows particular posters don't like regardless of their critical or financial success.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 17, 2021 17:08:29 GMT -5
It is kind of hilarious how we're in the Golden Age of Television now, but back in the day network executives seemed to have been like 'hey man, this show really sucks, makes no sense, and nobody is watching it! If you don't sort this out in a season or two, we're going to have a serious talk!'
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 17, 2021 17:27:28 GMT -5
I made a similar remark about Yes dear somehow always being on cbs advertising new episodes despite not knowing who watched it.
That and rules of engagement.
Anyways, as much as I didn’t like how aggressively political Tim Allen got, I remember hearing Last Man Standing got surprisingly good ratings for a Friday night show when it was on abc. But yeah I saw the last episode and man he bitched a fit in character about being cancelled again. Also what a downer ending. Nobody died or moved away or anything but still kind of messed up it ended with someone stealing his car that he was working on the whole series (which was a metaphor for the show being cancelled).
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Post by nisidhe on Aug 17, 2021 18:30:53 GMT -5
Just going by what I saw in a certain review series...how did Canadian sitcom "Hangin' In" last 7 seasons? Seven? Lot of meat on the bones of a walk-in psychology clinic, I guess. Now, I want a revival of "King of Kensington", though I suppose that neighbourhood's changed a bit since the 1970s.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Aug 17, 2021 20:50:33 GMT -5
Hm, my wife really likes Mrs. Brown's Boys.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Aug 17, 2021 23:42:21 GMT -5
According to Jim was a show that managed to last way longer than it had any right to, especially given that TV critics often asked "Do people even watch this?" I actually tuned into the series finale for bile fascination since they made it under the pretense that they knew people would only watch hoping Jim would die. It had its moments, but to me the more interesting thing would have been to have seen how cringe-worthy it could have gotten had the original casting for Jim's brother-in-law remained in place. There was a time where some producers were very keen on trying to turn Sam Seder (yes, the guy who runs a political analysis podcast) into a comedy star. There were several attempts to start sitcoms featuring him. Some were ridiculous, quite frankly, but this was a more reasonable one. Unfortunately, he apparently hated the part and deliberately hammed it up like Jackie Mason in order to not be offered the part. Imagine had the show's executives decided that they loved that take. It would have either made a show you disliked infinitely worse or immediately awesome. I honestly don't know which (but I suspect the former). According to Jim was a show that managed to last way longer than it had any right to, especially given that TV critics often asked "Do people even watch this?" I actually tuned into the series finale for bile fascination since they made it under the pretense that they knew people would only watch hoping Jim would die. "Yes, Dear" was a much worse show, AND it made it to over 100 episodes. Yes, but have you seen the women that were on that show? They looked very nice while delivering terrible lines. Two Broke Girls. Someone said it wasn’t a comedy, but rather an experiment to see how long Kat Dennings’ breasts could keep a show on tv. I tried watching one episode and did not even crack a smile even once. It was an anti-comedy sitcom.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 17, 2021 23:45:36 GMT -5
Mr. Pickles went for about four seasons. The animation from a technical standpoint is fine, but the writing is so try-hard hoping to upset the viewer. and then it got a spin off Momma Named Me Sheriff...
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Post by fw91 on Aug 18, 2021 0:07:57 GMT -5
Spongebob post 2004 movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 18, 2021 1:07:52 GMT -5
Though I wonder how much of S1 and 2 was considered good enough first-run until later seasons made it look awful by comparison. It'd be interesting to time travel to the 80's and see the initial reactions to some of those episodes. Though as I understand it, Wesley Crusher was always pretty despised and his hatred was not something that was retroactive. Even at the time there was a lot of negative reactions from fans who bemoaned the writing and episodes that were often little more than retreads of TOS episodes. Many of them hadn't been thrilled at the idea of a new Star Trek show that replaced the TOS ship and crew, so when the show crapped out episodes like "The Naked Now", "Code of Honor", and "We'll Always Have Paris" many of them felt justified in their dislike of the show and never gave it another chance. Even today you can still find people who look upon TNG with the same distaste that others have for the Kelvin movies, Discovery, Picard, and Lower Decks.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 18, 2021 2:02:42 GMT -5
The correct answer to this thread: Whichever shows particular posters don't like regardless of their critical or financial success. Critical success is the same thing as posters not liking them. No TV show is a financial success, especially ones still airing. The networks make damn sure of that, so they don't have to pay anyone points.
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Post by grungesmurf on Aug 18, 2021 4:00:55 GMT -5
Friends.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 18, 2021 6:06:57 GMT -5
I had never seen it until one Christmas when I saw it by accident, and it was absolutely wretched. The writing encapsulated every bad stereotype of seventies British comedy, and the actors were all trying to outdo each other. My mum once got taken to a recording of it as a teenager and still talks about how awful it was. Honestly outside of Rising Damp every ITV sitcom from that era was trash.
I was going to argue, then I saw you specified ITV ones, absolutely right. So I'll add mine, 4 seasons long. Mind Your Language. Set in an evening class for learning English, meaning every cheap, dirty, nasty, racist, xenophobic stereotype you can think of crammed into one show. Thing is, the 4th season, was a revival in 1985, so someone went BACK watched this, and thought it was worth another go.
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Post by Sparvid on Aug 18, 2021 6:18:37 GMT -5
Reality TV in the US is weird. In my country specific reality shows usually get hot for a couple of years, then people lose interest and they either end completely or disappear for maybe 4-5 years before being brought back. In the US it's like "This show is a hit? Great, let's keep airing it for the next two decades!" Even if someone is a fan of Survivor or The Amazing Race, you'd think that after watching 12 seasons they'd go "Yeah, I've now seen everything they can possibly do with this concept, time to go watch something else"
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