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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 27, 2021 15:26:28 GMT -5
It's just odd for him to say that given how much he's benefitted from different working agreements during his time in TNA and ROH.
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Post by Legion on Aug 27, 2021 15:28:59 GMT -5
That's kinda a stooge answer. That stuff is going to ramp up as the WWE is more willing to fire people. For a long time Reigns and Rollins were about the only guys that would do the company stooge stuff.. Now you got fired guys like Tyler Breeze doing it. Or, shock and horror, that's just their opinion and it's different to yours!? People aren't a hive mind, people will have different opinions and priorities which mean they dont feel or think the same way you do, or I do.
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Post by Mecca on Aug 27, 2021 15:29:15 GMT -5
It's just odd for him to say that given how much he's benefitted from different working agreements during his time in TNA and ROH. He's like shit I don't wanna get fired again.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2021 15:30:26 GMT -5
It's just odd for him to say that given how much he's benefitted from different working agreements during his time in TNA and ROH. He's like shit I don't wanna get fired again. Joe probably doesn't care if he gets fired again honestly. He knows that if he's gone pretty much anywhere would take him.
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Post by Mecca on Aug 27, 2021 15:30:35 GMT -5
That stuff is going to ramp up as the WWE is more willing to fire people. For a long time Reigns and Rollins were about the only guys that would do the company stooge stuff.. Now you got fired guys like Tyler Breeze doing it. Or, shock and horror, that's just their opinion and it's different to yours!? People aren't a hive mind, people will have different opinions and priorities which mean they dont feel or think the same way you do, or I do. The example he used was what got me, it made no sense. He could a said NFL, MLB, NBA but instead uses a sport thar does loan players.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Aug 27, 2021 15:37:56 GMT -5
JOE: You want fresh content and interesting storylines that transcend companies; watch our competition. If you want to watch me wrestle Johnny Gargano over and over for the next year, uh... watch NXT. Please.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 27, 2021 15:38:09 GMT -5
It's just odd for him to say that given how much he's benefitted from different working agreements during his time in TNA and ROH. He's like shit I don't wanna get fired again. I like to think that he doesn't need to think about that when answering these sorts of questions. Otherwise, these interviews mist be pretty miserable for him. You can just say "you know it's a crazy time in the wrestling industry but I'm proud to work at a place that brings in talents from all over the world" or something to that effect.
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Post by eJm on Aug 27, 2021 15:41:07 GMT -5
He's like shit I don't wanna get fired again. I like to think that he doesn't need to think about that when answering these sorts of questions. Otherwise, these interviews mist be pretty miserable for him. You can just say "you know it's a crazy time in the wrestling industry but I'm proud to work at a place that brings in talents from all over the world" or something to that effect. I mean, as we all know, saying the diplomatic, non-controversial answer is hard for WWE talent for some reason. But yeah, just say that, dude. It won’t get you attention but f***, that’s what you want from these things.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 27, 2021 15:42:16 GMT -5
I do not completely disagree with mindset but I am more so of the mind that the more often it happens the less special it begins to feel it is why something like ECW "invading" WWF in 96 was wild because it felt like this major event instead of just ECW guys coming in and constantly doing one offs and going back and it eventually becomes the norm. And maybe that is the whole point that Khan wants to make this the norm but to me I prefer the occasional very surprise crossover instead of waiting on the next one you know is happening. I did make mention of the open door being so lax that I worried it would start to give raw/smack down super show vibes. I mean… is all elite! When they’ve already been here for months. It’s like the draft where “omg we got the smack down champion drafted to smack down!”
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 27, 2021 15:44:27 GMT -5
I agree with Joe. Far as I'm concerned if I want to watch an Impact guy I'll watch Impact. I straight up stopped watching impact when Elite showed up. 🤷♂️
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 27, 2021 16:00:30 GMT -5
I agree with Joe. Far as I'm concerned if I want to watch an Impact guy I'll watch Impact. I straight up stopped watching impact when Elite showed up. 🤷♂️ I like Omega, but I can see how The Bucks would get on some people's nerves.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Aug 27, 2021 16:07:41 GMT -5
I, too, hated when ROH brought in guys like Muta, Kobashi, KENTA, Kojima, and Dragon Gate talent and also let their guys get tours in Japan. And don't get me started on TNA partnering with NOAH and letting their guys hold tag gold. WOOOOF. ROH is a prime example of the good and bad that can come of opening the door to talent swapping. Mid-'00s ROH was something special for fans, and Joe owes one of his best matches, if not his best match, with Kobashi to this philosophy of booking. However, ROH eventually fell into the trap of overbooking other company's talent over their own, so I can appreciate the opposite side of the coin. Balance is key.
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Post by DSR on Aug 27, 2021 16:10:38 GMT -5
Uh...it sounds like Joe actually likes the idea of forbidden doors, and feels as though they should remain forbidden.
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 27, 2021 16:31:30 GMT -5
That's kinda a stooge answer. Wise guy, huh?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 27, 2021 16:39:40 GMT -5
How could a company possibly benefit from having an air of unpredictability and a buzz about the product, with fans never knowing what's going to happen and treating the live shows as can't miss TV because just about anyone could turn up? How could a company possibly benefit from being able to send stagnant guys elsewhere for a brief stint to give them time to freshen up? I wonder... The WWE walled garden thing is actually a relatively modern phenomena. In days gone by, the WWF sent guys to Memphis, Japan, Puerto Rico or ECW to shake things up, and benefited from having ECW talent appear on their shows either signed, or loaned as part of angles to plug gaps and add a little more excitement to shows. Heck, it wasn't until FCW that the WWE's developmental territories were entirely in house.
How many major names in the WWE could have benefited from a trip overseas over the years to learn new ways of working and to shake up their characters? While they were never going to send Cena, Orton sure could have done with freshening up and a change of scene, or any number of the OVW/DSW 'can't miss' prospects they managed to miss entirely with, or folks like Ted DiBiase, Joe Hennig, Zac Ryder, Ziggler and so on
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2021 16:44:15 GMT -5
I genuinely wonder if he remembers why he got to wrestle Jushin Liger, or if that doesn't count for some mysterious reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 16:46:37 GMT -5
That's kinda a stooge answer. Wise guy, huh?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 27, 2021 16:54:49 GMT -5
That's kinda a stooge answer. Wise guy, huh? What, you want a piece of me?
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Aug 27, 2021 16:55:48 GMT -5
I, too, hated when ROH brought in guys like Muta, Kobashi, KENTA, Kojima, and Dragon Gate talent and also let their guys get tours in Japan. And don't get me started on TNA partnering with NOAH and letting their guys hold tag gold. WOOOOF. ROH is a prime example of the good and bad that can come of opening the door to talent swapping. Mid-'00s ROH was something special for fans, and Joe owes one of his best matches, if not his best match, with Kobashi to this philosophy of booking. However, ROH eventually fell into the trap of overbooking other company's talent over their own, so I can appreciate the opposite side of the coin. Balance is key. Oh yeah, roh fell off the map hard when the new Japan guys all started pulling out.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Aug 27, 2021 16:59:08 GMT -5
That's kinda a stooge answer. Wise guy, huh? Nyuk nyuk nyuk!
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