Bad Moon
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Post by Bad Moon on Sept 9, 2021 3:45:00 GMT -5
We didn't need Foley to reiterate it, this point has been made by the exact talents that he's talking about. Way back in 2019 Darby Allin gave an interview where he was asked if he had any offers from WWE after the first AEW shows, he said yes but he's never gonna take them because he can only imagine all the different ways they would screw him up and make him miserable. Fast forward 2 years and he's such a massive star he brought CM PUNK out of retirement just for the chance to wrestle him.
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Post by Sparvid on Sept 10, 2021 9:42:27 GMT -5
Ah yes, clearly the biggest problem is Foley speaking about it in public.
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Post by eJm on Sept 10, 2021 9:57:28 GMT -5
Because Mick Foley's the only wrestler under a Legends Contract that has disparaged the company.
Bret's on a Legends deal, he literally showed up on the first AEW PPV months after the Hall of Fame and he's insulted HHH and Seth Rollins. Like, come on now.
EDIT: And for a recent example, f***ing X-Pac talked about how bullshit the entire Bianca Belair stuff was. And I'd be shocked if he wasn't on a Legends Deal.
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Wieners=$$$
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Sept 10, 2021 10:16:50 GMT -5
Ah yes, clearly the biggest problem is Foley speaking about it in public. Yeh hear that everyone! It's all Mick Foley's fault the WWE has been misusing talent for years. Foley! I knew it was him! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was him!
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Post by Cyno on Sept 10, 2021 10:39:34 GMT -5
Not saying it's a good idea to do whatever your legends say, because some of them have some crazy ideas. But if your legends are giving constructive criticism, you should at least listen to what they have to say instead of being pissed they're not blindly loyal.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 11:10:26 GMT -5
Vince wont listen to fans so now the crtitcizim is coming from the legends.
Idk how many more have to actually have to pull a Foley before Vince ever listens but really if there was ever a contingent of voices that he would pay attention to it is guys like Foley speaking out on how bad things are in WWE.
But even that has got to be like pulling teeth at this point with Vince locked inside his soundproof lead balloon.
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Post by Tenshigure on Sept 10, 2021 13:11:45 GMT -5
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 10, 2021 14:39:25 GMT -5
The idea there's heat on someone because legends aren't supposed to say anything bad about the show is kinda mindblowing. More of that control freak shit.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Sept 10, 2021 15:03:48 GMT -5
Because Mick Foley's the only wrestler under a Legends Contract that has disparaged the company. Bret's on a Legends deal, he literally showed up on the first AEW PPV months after the Hall of Fame and he's insulted HHH and Seth Rollins. Like, come on now. EDIT: And for a recent example, f***ing X-Pac talked about how bullshit the entire Bianca Belair stuff was. And I'd be shocked if he wasn't on a Legends Deal. He was talked about how proud he was that Punk and Darby did a call back to his match with Bret and how it meant alot to him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 16:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 16:50:23 GMT -5
Can keep doin this all day absoloutley loving it..keep it up Mick.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 16:53:32 GMT -5
Can keep doin this all day absoloutley loving it..keep it up Mick. After thinking about it, I think we need a thread (or just keep filling this one up) with comparisons like this. Just gimmicks/feuds/storylines from one company to the next to show how the product's declined some.
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MrElijah
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 10, 2021 17:37:48 GMT -5
Can keep doin this all day absoloutley loving it..keep it up Mick. I love how Morrison in AAA/LU became the Non-union Mexican Equivalent to Bobby Lashley & The Miz.
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Chiral
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Post by Chiral on Sept 10, 2021 17:56:02 GMT -5
I think it bears repeating too; whenever Vince realizes there are serious problems in WWE, his fixes are all bandaids that don't change anything. A new set of graphics, more LEDs on the set, empty promises about how they know things have gotten bad (but don't worry, it's all Baron Corbin's fault), a 90's figure becoming head of a show (because no one new could ever possibly fix this), a "NEW ERA", quick fixes like the Wildcard Rule, Legend nights, all these bandaids while nothing ever really changes, or if things do change, it's to push the company further and further away into house show booking because putting the same show out for months on end is easier, or if not easier the only viable result of Vince's haphazard last minute planning.
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ayumidah
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Post by ayumidah on Sept 10, 2021 17:57:01 GMT -5
I enjoy that I was just talking about that myself a few days ago. Good ol' Mick.
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Post by Heeltown, USA on Sept 10, 2021 18:03:56 GMT -5
I think it bears repeating too; whenever Vince realizes there are serious problems in WWE, his fixes are all bandaids that don't change anything. A new set of graphics, more LEDs on the set, empty promises about how they know things have gotten bad (but don't worry, it's all Baron Corbin's fault), a 90's figure becoming head of a show (because no one new could ever possibly fix this), a "NEW ERA", quick fixes like the Wildcard Rule, Legend nights, all these bandaids while nothing ever really changes, or if things do change, it's to push the company further and further away into house show booking because putting the same show out for months on end is easier, or if not easier the only viable result of Vince's haphazard last minute planning. Quoted for succinctness
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 10, 2021 18:08:29 GMT -5
Because Mick Foley's the only wrestler under a Legends Contract that has disparaged the company. Bret's on a Legends deal, he literally showed up on the first AEW PPV months after the Hall of Fame and he's insulted HHH and Seth Rollins. Like, come on now. EDIT: And for a recent example, f***ing X-Pac talked about how bullshit the entire Bianca Belair stuff was. And I'd be shocked if he wasn't on a Legends Deal. Yeah, X-Pac definitely speaks his mind. Recall him on the reaction show for that one Hell in a Cell questioning how Hell in a Cell ended in a DQ while basically all of the active wrestlers were in stunned silence.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 10, 2021 18:09:32 GMT -5
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the only time WWE was ever good was when Pat Patterson worked there.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 10, 2021 18:14:34 GMT -5
I love how Mick’s response to the report of heat from WWE over his comments is basically “alright. If you’re going to be like that, then…”
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 10, 2021 18:46:41 GMT -5
Holy shit I thought someone was joking when they said Johnny shot Kross with the drip stick. This was real?
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