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Post by Bad Moon on Sept 23, 2021 13:23:31 GMT -5
You can tell that Cody books his own segments and that he learned to book from WWE.
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Post by clifford on Sept 23, 2021 13:31:31 GMT -5
Was this the first major 'crowd rebels' moment in AEW? As in, the crowd didn't respond accordingly to the presented face/heel dynamic? I think maybe Ricky Starks and Brian Cage from earlier this summer was a bit like this, but not on this level.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 13:47:30 GMT -5
Was this the first major 'crowd rebels' moment in AEW? As in, the crowd didn't respond accordingly to the presented face/heel dynamic? I think maybe Ricky Starks and Brian Cage from earlier this summer was a bit like this, but not on this level. Britt Baker has been getting pretty warm receptions, but yeah, nothing like this. Her opponents have been getting cheered as well.
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Post by clifford on Sept 23, 2021 13:53:23 GMT -5
Was this the first major 'crowd rebels' moment in AEW? As in, the crowd didn't respond accordingly to the presented face/heel dynamic? I think maybe Ricky Starks and Brian Cage from earlier this summer was a bit like this, but not on this level. Britt Baker has been getting pretty warm receptions, but yeah, nothing like this. Her opponents have been getting cheered as well. Right, yeah with Britt, she's getting the cheers and the DMD chantalong, but not at the expense of her face opponents. Red Velvet was basically presented as a heel in their match up
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Post by Cyno on Sept 23, 2021 14:07:51 GMT -5
Britt Baker has been getting pretty warm receptions, but yeah, nothing like this. Her opponents have been getting cheered as well. Right, yeah with Britt, she's getting the cheers and the DMD chantalong, but not at the expense of her face opponents. Red Velvet was basically presented as a heel in their match up Yeah, she went face for her homecoming match in Pittsburgh and Velvet did a good job of being the heel for the night.
There were some boos for Cody at Revolution earlier in the year, but nothing on the scale of this.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 15:04:03 GMT -5
Cody would be amazing if he just went full on heel and really turned into who he's trying to be. Man if they went that direction then we could be seeing money from him. If he wanna be Triple H then dammit, turn him into the most hated person in the company and make some people.
Darby facing a truly heel Cody and actually beating him this time would be mad dope if you ask me.
Heel Cody just has way more range. Even in WWE his best work was as a heel.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 23, 2021 15:54:16 GMT -5
Cody would be amazing if he just went full on heel and really turned into who he's trying to be. Man if they went that direction then we could be seeing money from him. If he wanna be Triple H then dammit, turn him into the most hated person in the company and make some people. Darby facing a truly heel Cody and actually beating him this time would be mad dope if you ask me. Heel Cody just has way more range. Even in WWE his best work was as a heel. Darby already has his big win over Cody. He beat him for the TNT Championship at last year's Full Gear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2021 15:56:56 GMT -5
Cody would be amazing if he just went full on heel and really turned into who he's trying to be. Man if they went that direction then we could be seeing money from him. If he wanna be Triple H then dammit, turn him into the most hated person in the company and make some people. Darby facing a truly heel Cody and actually beating him this time would be mad dope if you ask me. Heel Cody just has way more range. Even in WWE his best work was as a heel. Darby already has his big win over Cody. He beat him for the TNT Championship at last year's Full Gear. True. I was just naming off a younger babyface who could get the big win over Cody and I couldn't think of anyone else. Maybe Jungle Boy down the line would be good for it.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Sept 23, 2021 16:03:51 GMT -5
He should go heel by reneging on his "I'm not going to challenge for the Title" promise and booking himself in a tottaly undeserved title match
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Sept 23, 2021 16:10:51 GMT -5
I’ve gotten so much flack over the last year for being a Cody hater for the exact same reasons people are now starting to turn on him. Honestly why I can’t stand him, is because the dude comes off as super fake. His Promos are so over the top and “hey cheer for me” that people are seeing thru the BS. I also think, and this is just me….AEW is Tony Khans baby, he owns it…AEW is Tony Khan…Cody is the only “evp” that on screen ever tries to present himself as more than a talent, Cody has to be “an evp/ leader of a whole group of wrestlers/ he gets special entrances…he now gets his own reality show/and that Tbs game show, where it comes across as AEW is Cody’s baby….Cody doesn’t own AEW…yet it comes across like he does and he portrays himself as this leader and yadda yadda.
That’s why I’ve never stopped enjoying the other “evps” when you think of Omega/Bucks you think of their badass matches in AEW, I’d have no idea they were in management or whatever if I hadn’t known. Cody makes it clear and people are not enjoying it.
Also…still hate cody
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Sept 23, 2021 16:13:53 GMT -5
The bucks and omega seem like dudes you meet on the street they’d be cool as hell to interact and spend time with…Cody seems like the dude who would come up to u and say “hey slugger, how you been buddy” and the whole time he’d be on his phone pretending to give two craps about talking to you.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 23, 2021 16:49:44 GMT -5
Was wild how not over he was tonight. Dude stepped out looking like he was expecting a rly big positive reaction too and it was like aww man LMAO It's wild because, he is popular still. I just really don't think even his fans want him to beat Malakai Black anytime soon, which, yeah, makes sense. It's like Brock vs Rock the first time. Even big Rock fans wanted Brock to beat the shit out of him because he was the new hotness and Rock simply wasn't in 2002 anymore. I think that sums it up, wrestling fans always want the next big thing. Those that have been around a while need to adapt, take what worked in the past, drop what's stale, add something new, everyone is happy. Cody did that for a while, but now the things he takes from the past are America f*** yeah patriotic garbage (which is particularly stupid given the foreign faces elsewhere on the card). I groaned when I saw his outfit. Almost everyone else on the male roster and many of the women are defined by their relationship with others. Yet Cody drifts from the elite without explanation and barely talks to his allies. He can't go for the aew title, has already had his time with the TNT title, it makes no sense why he and Dustin are so disinterested in being a tag team, or having a conversation. His stable have no identity as an on screen group. It makes for an odd character that feels increasingly out of place.
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 16:53:09 GMT -5
It's wild because, he is popular still. I just really don't think even his fans want him to beat Malakai Black anytime soon, which, yeah, makes sense. It's like Brock vs Rock the first time. Even big Rock fans wanted Brock to beat the shit out of him because he was the new hotness and Rock simply wasn't in 2002 anymore. I think that sums it up, wrestling fans always want the next big thing. Those that have been around a while need to adapt, take what worked in the past, drop what's stale, add something new, everyone is happy. Cody did that for a while, but now the things he takes from the past are America f*** yeah patriotic garbage (which is particularly stupid given the foreign faces elsewhere on the card). I groaned when I saw his outfit. Almost everyone else on the male roster and many of the women are defined by their relationship with others. Yet Cody drifts from the elite without explanation and barely talks to his allies. He can't go for the aew title, has already had his time with the TNT title, it makes no sense why he and Dustin are so disinterested in being a tag team, or having a conversation. His stable have no identity as an on screen group. It makes for an odd character that feels increasingly out of place. Cody's either really smart or really stupid...those American Jingoistic type promos followed with that outfit says to me he knows and he's working us.
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Post by Hypnosis on Sept 23, 2021 16:57:53 GMT -5
It's so crazy how Sammy's Vlog Cody is more likeable and entertaining than the TV version of himself.
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Post by bob on Sept 23, 2021 17:02:16 GMT -5
Pubic tastes have changed
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Post by Mecca on Sept 23, 2021 17:05:10 GMT -5
Pubic tastes have changed To like strawberry?
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bob
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Post by bob on Sept 23, 2021 17:27:02 GMT -5
Amused myself way too much making this.
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Post by bob on Sept 23, 2021 17:39:35 GMT -5
As long as he does not resort to massive blowjobs of the military, I do not really mind his patriotic act.
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Post by sfvega on Sept 23, 2021 17:59:43 GMT -5
"Most over heel" is a really optimistic way of putting it. He's just doing what he wants and the audience hates it. It's somewhere between heel work and go away heat. He's just very WWE in a federation that is anti-WWE. He's all spectacle, he's style over substance, he's reality TV, he's 100 different three-piece suits with great shoes, he's antiquated xenophobia promos. He's really hard to root for, he's even harder to relate to, and what he puts on in the ring isn't really worth the over the top everything else. Like Omega had the over the top entrance for a while, but his ring work ALWAYS overshadowed his entrance. Cody puts on slightly above average matches and mostly 50/50 booking. Only loses twice to Black with over a full minute of overbooked shenanigans.
I just hope he has many, many more children. It was nice while he was gone.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 23, 2021 18:02:16 GMT -5
As long as he does not resort to massive blowjobs of the military, I do not really mind his patriotic act. Out of context, I love this. IN context I love this and demand Cody starts an Only Fans page while he still can!
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