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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 29, 2021 16:12:08 GMT -5
Where's the wait-and-see people now? Moving the goalposts, obviously. Respectfully, I don't see how posts like this do anything but get people riled up. There's lots of discussion happening on both sides here that isn't negative or inflammatory, even if some of us are disagreeing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:14:31 GMT -5
I'm not surprised. We don't know what's up with any of these people. Wrestlers ask for releases far more numerous times in companies than we know and are denied, we just don't hear about it. In this case according to reports, she asked to be released (when she was literally wrestling this week) and they granted it. The company let her go because in their eyes (given today's situation) it's easier to let her go. At the end of the day, most people think people ask for releases do to work reasons when the reality is there's other things at play they don't know about. It's just easier to blame it on work reasons because that's all they see on camera. I'm going to try not to speculate too much, but the suddenness of this makes me feel like there's something more going on than just booking frustrations or whatever. I dunno, maybe we'll find out more in the coming days or weeks. I'm not going to be one for speculating too but I'm guessing it's a combination of things and it's just best for her. Her personal life, her work life, family life, whatever, at the end of the day it's just a combination. Yesterday she was wrestling Sasha and Charlotte for the belt at live events so given that and given this is happening literally less than 24hrs after that yeah, there's just stuff we don't know. If she decided to leave based off that then she'd be the quickest decider I've ever known. Her mental's more important. That goes for everyone in this company and well, everyone with a job. Doesn't matter if you're getting paid what you want or not, if leaving a job would make you happy then leave that job regardless. I told someone that literally 3 weeks ago and they were getting paid well at their place of employment, they just weren't happy. Sometimes it ain't what you do but how you feel doing it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2021 16:14:33 GMT -5
Moving the goalposts, obviously. Respectfully, I don't see how posts like this do anything but get people riled up. There's lots of discussion happening on both sides here that isn't negative or inflammatory, even if some of us are disagreeing. As someone who was pissed at the wait and see responses they got when they said Toni looked dead in the water during the pie face angle, yeah no, no one's being a dick here, people are expressing anger at the booking and hoping she's ok and lands on her feet, both things can happen at the same time without a fight.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 29, 2021 16:14:45 GMT -5
Nick must have seen Vince's Raw segment and had a brilliant idea for a New Year's gift.
Yes I'm saying there is a grand conspiracy to badly book people so they request their release so they can let Vince sign their papers around the holidays.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 29, 2021 16:15:24 GMT -5
Girl came in with so much hype … but was just never impressive in any of her stops, be it NXT UK, NXT, or main roster. Hopefully it was just one of those weird anti-fits and she gets going wherever she lands elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:15:28 GMT -5
A bit of a shame that she's gone, but with creative as stilted as it is, I don't think she was ever going to get a chance to shine. When you consider the makeup of everyone who's gone, it's clear that Vince has a far different plan for WWE's future creatively from what Trips may have had in mind, and that all of Paul's picks are being released. The old guard is back in charge. It's weird because she ticks most of the boxes in terms of what Vince might want out of a woman's wrestler. The only thing she really has going against her is her accent (a dumb f***ing reason to not like somebody, but we know how WWE is). She's stunningly beautiful, really good on the mic, and good enough in the ring.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 29, 2021 16:15:44 GMT -5
Kind of surprising if it's true she asked for it. I mean the Charlotte feud wasn't great at all but it was still a title feud with one of their most pushed stars and they were booking her in title matches on house shows which were probably decent pay offs. Maybe she just realized they weren't going do much with her at the moment and wasn't interested in playing the long game for a top push that may or may not happen and decided it would be better to go to Impact or AEW. She's a top star almost instantly in Impact or AEW, she'd also help the increasing upper card depth of AEW if she went there, which is key for now having two major titles. I could see her becoming the face of Impact's division really quick if she goes there as she would definitely be the best all around talent they would have. AEW I'm not sure about. I think she'll definitely have a better shot then she did in WWE but other then Britt, Jade, and Thunder Rosa it really seems like no one is figured in and the majority of their roster is just kind of there without really any direction and plan. It's not as harmful as WWE's booking with a lot of their talent but it's also not really beneficial either.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2021 16:15:54 GMT -5
Yeah Vince really shouldn't have said that "I like firing people around the holidays" line, we all knew it was gonna age badly, we didn't think it'd be a week... just like "Maybe we should give them some more talent"
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 29, 2021 16:16:14 GMT -5
Respectfully, I don't see how posts like this do anything but get people riled up. There's lots of discussion happening on both sides here that isn't negative or inflammatory, even if some of us are disagreeing. As someone who was pissed at the wait and see responses they got when they said Toni looked dead in the water during the pie face angle, yeah no, no one's being a dick here, people are expressing anger at the booking and hoping she's ok and lands on her feet, both things can happen at the same time without a fight. There's also people trying to get a rise out of folks on this board. Theres a reason why there isn't that many pro-WWE people on here. They usually get beaten down with how much the show they like sucks and they should explain their fandoms. I hate the product but I do the best thing and not post in the WWE board so I dont damper anyone's enjoyment
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 29, 2021 16:16:24 GMT -5
Respectfully, I don't see how posts like this do anything but get people riled up. There's lots of discussion happening on both sides here that isn't negative or inflammatory, even if some of us are disagreeing. As someone who was pissed at the wait and see responses they got when they said Toni looked dead in the water during the pie face angle, yeah no, no one's being a dick here, people are expressing anger at the booking and hoping she's ok and lands on her feet, both things can happen at the same time without a fight. Yep! It's why I love this board, we can all disagree at times but usually it doesn't go sideways. Cheers.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 29, 2021 16:16:25 GMT -5
We all saw this coming months ago...
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Post by Demented on Dec 29, 2021 16:16:30 GMT -5
They released Toni without a watch or a warning. Damn.
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Post by eJm on Dec 29, 2021 16:17:20 GMT -5
Nick must have seen Vince's Raw segment and had a brilliant idea for a New Year's gift. Yes I'm saying there is a grand conspiracy to badly book people so they request their release so they can let Vince sign their papers around the holidays. I hate the fact that I know you’re joking but that’s something I can’t remotely 100% rule out.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 29, 2021 16:17:48 GMT -5
We all saw this coming months ago... you could say we all literally waited and then saw
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2021 16:19:38 GMT -5
As someone who was pissed at the wait and see responses they got when they said Toni looked dead in the water during the pie face angle, yeah no, no one's being a dick here, people are expressing anger at the booking and hoping she's ok and lands on her feet, both things can happen at the same time without a fight. There's also people trying to get a rise out of folks on this board. Theres a reason why there isn't that many pro-WWE people on here. They usually get beaten down with how much the show they like sucks and they should explain their fandoms. I hate the product but I do the best thing and not post in the WWE board so I dont damper anyone's enjoyment I riff in the live threads and comment where I think I can provide good criticism, joke, or compliment. I really don't like going after people for what they like, even if in some cases I don't understand it, that's fine, I'm not them That being said, yeah, I didn't see much of anyone who was real jazzed about how Toni Storm's push went... and developments like these probably show why you shouldn't also constantly beat down a talent with empty promises until they're like "Eh I'm done with this". We just had a thread about how Kross got this runaround with a "LOng term plan for the Jeff Hardy squash"... there's just too many hens in the hen house, and those too many hens serve one crazy rooster who dont know what hes doing anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:20:01 GMT -5
We all saw this coming months ago... you could say we all literally waited and then saw
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 29, 2021 16:21:49 GMT -5
There's also people trying to get a rise out of folks on this board. Theres a reason why there isn't that many pro-WWE people on here. They usually get beaten down with how much the show they like sucks and they should explain their fandoms. I hate the product but I do the best thing and not post in the WWE board so I dont damper anyone's enjoyment I riff in the live threads and comment where I think I can provide good criticism, joke, or compliment. I really don't like going after people for what they like, even if in some cases I don't understand it, that's fine, I'm not them That being said, yeah, I didn't see much of anyone who was real jazzed about how Toni Storm's push went... and developments like these probably show why you shouldn't also constantly beat down a talent with empty promises until they're like "Eh I'm done with this". We just had a thread about how Kross got this runaround with a "LOng term plan for the Jeff Hardy squash"... there's just too many hens in the hen house, and those too many hens serve one crazy rooster who dont know what hes doing anymore. Yeah Toni's booking was terrible. I thought the wait and see folks was due to it being smackdown. They're in a massive rut creatively and ratings or fan dissatisfaction be dammed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:21:59 GMT -5
Maybe Motley Crue asked her to join as their new lead singer.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 29, 2021 16:22:08 GMT -5
Nick must have seen Vince's Raw segment and had a brilliant idea for a New Year's gift. Yes I'm saying there is a grand conspiracy to badly book people so they request their release so they can let Vince sign their papers around the holidays. I hate the fact that I know you’re joking but that’s something I can’t remotely 100% rule out. Every December 29, Vince gets to sign release papers. It's what keeps him alive.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2021 16:23:08 GMT -5
Maybe Motley Crue asked her to join as their new lead singer. Perhaps the 80's will take her back
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