chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Dec 29, 2021 16:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Dec 29, 2021 16:42:11 GMT -5
I’ll say again, move on from the “wait and see” discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:42:59 GMT -5
Toni had the really unfortunate luck of coming in when that NXT womens division was white hot and just continually stacked with talent And then she had that really bad worlds collide title match with Rhea. She was a bit snake bitten during her time in NXT. HHH really didn't use her all that well either, honestly. She got a couple title shots and beat Rhea in a really good match after she turned heel, but it was a lot of nothing outside of that. She even went on a huge losing streak where she was getting pinned by the likes of Kacy and Zayda Ramier. Even if you don't think she should be one of the faces of the division, she at least deserved better than that. Oh I agree she did deserve better but it was as much not using her to her potential and just bad luck. When she first showed up she has IMO a really good match with Io and then the 6 woman tag in which she ends up injuring Io inadvertently. then comes the worlds collide match which was really bad. It was just this bad sequence of events that really only kind of turned around for her when she turned heel which was short lived before she got called up.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:43:28 GMT -5
Now that Toni is gone now I'm down to Shotzi, Nikamura, Sheamus, and maybe the Viking Raiders as the only talent I care about on Smackdown.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Dec 29, 2021 16:44:15 GMT -5
I honestly think that if the wait and see crowd just said, "You're completely right to have zero faith in them doing anything remotely right here, but I'm going to anyway", then the sentiment wouldn't be around. But that doesn't happen. A lot of us have been here for a very long time and been told wait and see over and over only to be burned constantly. At which point though is the breaking point? I basically watch the wrestling shows that I enjoy like NxT and AEW. If I'm not getting paid to review these shows why should I watch something I hate. Im just gonna make people who actually like the product miserable. Theres no need for me to spread that negativity around You're asking the wrong guy because I stopped watching WWE right after WrestleMania 36. That said, this community has been going on for a long time and some people are just going to keep on watching WWE no matter what. I firmly believe that when one of those threads like the Toni Storm one pops up, going in there and saying to wait and see is just purposely being infuriating. You can look back for years and years of examples of it not working out over and over. The right way to handle it is just to tell the people who are less than satisfied with booking around a talent that they are completely right to have zero faith in WWE doing anything worthwhile with the talent, but won't it be great if they do?
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 29, 2021 16:45:31 GMT -5
I find it interesting she asked for her release not long after that interview she had where she talked about sitting in catering...
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2021 16:46:47 GMT -5
At which point though is the breaking point? I basically watch the wrestling shows that I enjoy like NxT and AEW. If I'm not getting paid to review these shows why should I watch something I hate. Im just gonna make people who actually like the product miserable. Theres no need for me to spread that negativity around You're asking the wrong guy because I stopped watching WWE right after WrestleMania 36. That said, this community has been going on for a long time and some people are just going to keep on watching WWE no matter what. I firmly believe that when one of those threads like the Toni Storm one pops up, going in there and saying to wait and see is just purposely being infuriating. You can look back for years and years of examples of it not working out over and over. The right way to handle it is just to tell the people who are less than satisfied with booking around a talent that they are completely right to have zero faith in WWE doing anything worthwhile with the talent, but won't it be great if they do? Alright, that's fine, enough about the "wait and see" stuff, please.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:47:57 GMT -5
So given this I'm assuming we are just going to head straight to a Charlotte/Sasha feud again but also given that I really hope the writers don't write into a promo that Charlotte has to say she sent her outta the company. A shot is a shot but nah that's lame and we need to move on from stuff like that.
Was Toni Storm her name coming into the company or does WWE have the rights for it?
She literally wrestled last night so this must have been done super super quick. That's quicker than about every other release I can remember.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 29, 2021 16:48:09 GMT -5
Hero was working as an agent with ROH before they went on hiatus, and I think I heard he wants to get back in the ring once the pandemic is more under control but I can't entirely remember. Was he an agent or booker? I read agent, but I wouldn't be shocked if he was at least helping out with the book; Delirious was in charge of that, but Gresham was booking the women's division, I think, so I'm figuring there's every chance that a few of the vets were involved in booking different aspects of the company.
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Post by eJm on Dec 29, 2021 16:48:57 GMT -5
Was Toni Storm her name coming into the company or does WWE have the rights for it? Don’t believe WWE has a trademark over since she came in with it so she can use it over the indies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:49:26 GMT -5
Britt already teasing lol AEW jumping on good women's workers with potential is a no brainer. Toni coming in to replace Jamie Hayter in Britt's group after Jamie leaves Britt would be perfect.
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Post by pinja on Dec 29, 2021 16:51:01 GMT -5
AEW jumping on good women's workers with potential is a no brainer. Jamie leaves The nightmare that keeps me awake at work.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2021 16:51:05 GMT -5
Charlotte/Sasha happening again sounds like a total nightmare, but this is also WWE's fault for not building any other women up. Unless we get a surprise NXT callup, in which case they're gonna feud with Charlotte so my enthusiasm would be zero lol.
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Post by 06vwgti on Dec 29, 2021 16:51:37 GMT -5
So given this I'm assuming we are just going to head straight to a Charlotte/Sasha feud again but also given that I really hope the writers don't write into a promo that Charlotte has to say she sent her outta the company. A shot is a shot but nah that's lame and we need to move on from stuff like that. Was Toni Storm her name coming into the company or does WWE have the rights for it? She literally wrestled last night so this must have been done super super quick. That's quicker than about every other release I can remember. There was a STARDOM match vs Io Shirai on youtube from 2016 as "Toni Storm" guessing its her name kind of like Shotzi had her name pre wwe too...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:53:32 GMT -5
Charlotte/Sasha happening again sounds like a total nightmare, but this is also WWE's fault for not building any other women up. Unless we get a surprise NXT callup, in which case they're gonna feud with Charlotte so my enthusiasm would be zero lol. Well there are two obvious choices. Dakota and Raquel. And idk how long Dakota is for the company considering she is very adament about streaming on twitch and we all know how WWE feels about that. And as far as Raquel which if it was not before damn sure has to be a lock she will debut on the main roster at the Rumble to fill a slot on SD.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 29, 2021 16:54:09 GMT -5
I told you that nothing good could come from being friends with Sasha
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Wade Wilson
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 29, 2021 16:54:39 GMT -5
I got offline for about an hour and a half and came back to this. Wild. I don't blame her.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 29, 2021 16:54:54 GMT -5
“Let it play out, she’ll be fine.”
I never want to hear that excuse when it comes to WWE again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2021 16:54:58 GMT -5
I'm tempted, even though I don't really like the shirt.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 29, 2021 16:59:02 GMT -5
I'm tempted, even though I don't really like the shirt. I think one thing we can probably agree on here is that most WWE main roster shirts are awful these days.
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