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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 28, 2022 18:42:47 GMT -5
Shinsuke Asuka Yoshi Tatsu Io (Can't make it to the main roster) KENTA Kairi Akira TAKA Funaki
There are various factors here from creative has nothing for them. To having no faith in them winning the big one. To making them typically Japanese joke characters. Is it truly Vince just not having faith in them? Or could it be Bruce, Johnny or Dunn?
Most I think would agree here that Shinsuke should've had a WWE title run.
Is it just truly this simple, WWE doesn't understand the Japanese culture?
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 28, 2022 18:45:27 GMT -5
WWE struggles to understand American Culture let alone Japanese Culture.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 28, 2022 18:46:22 GMT -5
I mean the current ones are because... like literally no one is booked well.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 28, 2022 18:47:06 GMT -5
I mean the current ones are because... like literally no one is booked well. I've always been curious though. Based on their work over in Japan, should guys like TAKA and KENTA been booked as a bigger deal here in WWE?
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Post by Chiral on Feb 28, 2022 18:50:22 GMT -5
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Feb 28, 2022 18:52:52 GMT -5
Gosh, I have no idea. It's a complete mystery.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 18:55:35 GMT -5
I mean really sums it up going back to the Vince story he does not understand why people think asian women are attractive.
That sums it up as far as the japanese female talent goes , if Vince aint getting a boner he doesn't understand why anyone else would find them attractive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 19:01:30 GMT -5
I mean really sums it up going back to the Vince story he does not understand why people think asian women are attractive. That sums it up as far as the japanese female talent goes , if Vince aint getting a boner he doesn't understand why anyone else would find them attractive. Wouldn't be surprising if he feels the same way about Asian men, too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2022 19:10:21 GMT -5
Cause they see Japanese wrestlers as comedy characters
This won't change till Vince, Pritchard and Laurainitis leave.
Nakamura would've been a World Champion if HHH was running things. Maybe KENTA aswell.
One Japanese star I thought would've been great in WWE is Takeshi Morishma. Put him with a manager and let him wreck shit up and boom, there's your new Vader.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 28, 2022 19:10:57 GMT -5
I mean the current ones are because... like literally no one is booked well. I've always been curious though. Based on their work over in Japan, should guys like TAKA and KENTA been booked as a bigger deal here in WWE? Don't know about TAKA! But Kenta's biggest issue was getting injured at the absolute worst time, followed by it taking forever for his neck injury to heal... it was clear that HHH had him penciled in with Finn to be one of his big guys... Then coming back and then getting injured a second time didn't help either... but even without that when he came back... Tyler Breeze, Finn Balor, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn and like everyone that KENTA was going to face off with was gone and all of the new bigger prospects were getting established. so his run couldn't really even get started... and when he came back he also kinda seemed checked out... (I mean going from one of THE guys to just another guy on the roster can do that.. but still >_>)
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Post by chrom on Feb 28, 2022 19:16:08 GMT -5
I mean the current ones are because... like literally no one is booked well. I've always been curious though. Based on their work over in Japan, should guys like TAKA and KENTA been booked as a bigger deal here in WWE? Foley said that on talent alone Taka should've been the World Champ
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 28, 2022 19:26:55 GMT -5
What is booked poorly?
Asuka, Shinksuke and Io should not be on the list. They have some iffy stretches but Asuka and Io specifically carried a whole brand while Shinsuke run has been nothing to sneeze at
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Post by bob on Feb 28, 2022 19:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by Main Event Mark on Feb 28, 2022 19:46:14 GMT -5
Remember how promising it looked when Asuka and Nakamura both won the Royal Rumble that year?
At least those two and Io have had runs of strong booking.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2022 19:49:22 GMT -5
What is booked poorly? Asuka, Shinksuke and Io should not be on the list. They have some iffy stretches but Asuka and Io specifically carried a whole brand while Shinsuke run has been nothing to sneeze at I think the issue has been clear ceilings and clear issues of them being booked as top tier talent Nakamura's run of failing to beat Jinder or AJ, Asuka while winning the top belt, constantly being booked like shit as champion and almost never being treated as the main focus or threat, and also constantly losing to Charlotte, Io seemingly stuck in NXT purgatory for like 2 years too long and now kinda just spinning her wheels about what to do next if the main roster isn't in her future There not all treated like f***ing Kaientai or some shit, but they very clearly keep get f***ed around with and it bugs people, me included
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 28, 2022 19:56:01 GMT -5
What is booked poorly? Asuka, Shinksuke and Io should not be on the list. They have some iffy stretches but Asuka and Io specifically carried a whole brand while Shinsuke run has been nothing to sneeze at I think the issue has been clear ceilings and clear issues of them being booked as top tier talent Nakamura's run of failing to beat Jinder or AJ, Asuka while winning the top belt, constantly being booked like shit as champion and almost never being treated as the main focus or threat, and also constantly losing to Charlotte, Io seemingly stuck in NXT purgatory for like 2 years too long and now kinda just spinning her wheels about what to do next if the main roster isn't in her future There not all treated like f***ing Kaientai or some shit, but they very clearly keep get f***ed around with and it bugs people, me included Yeah, Asuka was champion for like a year... and like the main focus of the women's division for like that entire time was Sasha and Bayley... even though they were on the other show... or her tagging with Charlotte... and the main event for mania was pencilled to be Charlotte vs. Lacey Evans... again... while Asuka was the champion for a year... Nakamura... should have won at Summerslam against Jinder in new york... the pop would have been huge the crowd were absolutely ready for it... and instead distraction, finisher... pinfall... crowd apathy. But hey he won the rumble! Ok... so it's AJ vs. Shinsuke Nakamura in a match that was basically hyped solely on the two being some fantastic workers... in a match that never really gets out of first gear... that Nakamura loses. Now, losing at Mania is fine... as it lead to the heel turn (even if no one wanted it) ... the heel turn started off fine... but ... then the dude just couldn't buy a f***ing win. It completely killed the turn before it could get going. They're far from the only people that get jerked around like this on the Roster (like I said... I wouldn't say anyone on the roster is really booked WELL), but both Asuka and Nakamura are another of the people that the crowd have basically been begging to cheer for that the WWE just kinda don't want to.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 28, 2022 19:58:23 GMT -5
What is booked poorly? Asuka, Shinksuke and Io should not be on the list. They have some iffy stretches but Asuka and Io specifically carried a whole brand while Shinsuke run has been nothing to sneeze at I think the issue has been clear ceilings and clear issues of them being booked as top tier talent Nakamura's run of failing to beat Jinder or AJ, Asuka while winning the top belt, constantly being booked like shit as champion and almost never being treated as the main focus or threat, and also constantly losing to Charlotte, Io seemingly stuck in NXT purgatory for like 2 years too long and now kinda just spinning her wheels about what to do next if the main roster isn't in her future There not all treated like f***ing Kaientai or some shit, but they very clearly keep get f***ed around with and it bugs people, me included Ceiling is one thing But people see what they want to see as well. Asuke has taken loses yes, but she is one of the more accoladed women in history and remains constantly over. Losing to Charlotte does not kill your career and people put more emphasis on that then the shit Asuka has done. Io is spinning her wheels in NXT but that also doesn't take away from what she has done either
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Post by mistery on Feb 28, 2022 19:59:08 GMT -5
Let's not forget Sarray who just went through a gimmick change about a month ago but is already back to losing to women like Elektra Lopez. They gave her two wins before jobbing her out again.
For all of the talk of how WWE screws over African American talent, Asian talent have it much worse right now. Like significantly so.
Also for those who try to use Asuka's "accolades" as an excuse for her poor booking, look at those accolades much more closely. They fall apart under any sort of scrutiny, because pretty much all of them have an asterisk next to them in some shape or form.
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Post by Matt on Feb 28, 2022 20:08:55 GMT -5
Don’t forget Jimmy Wang Yang Asian cowboy
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 28, 2022 20:42:36 GMT -5
While it was probably inevitable to have Asuka and Kairi work together either as partners or opponents, the Kabuki Warriors was so eye roll worry. Particularly because the private princess gimmick was over like gang busters and could have been money in merchandising.
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