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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Mar 10, 2022 8:02:22 GMT -5
And for that matter, Snuka's son whose name I can't recall I actually didn't mind Sim Snuka in the group, he didn't look as out of place as Manu. Anyone know why he got scrapped from the group? He wasn't as good a worker as the others... maybe they felt he dragged them down?
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Post by sungod2020 on Mar 10, 2022 8:05:14 GMT -5
One of these things is not like the others... To be fair, none of them really made sense in the Truth Commission, the only real South African was The Commandant but he was replaced by The Jackyl because they wanted someone who can physically get involved in matches(which Jackyl rarely did in his time there).
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Post by sungod2020 on Mar 10, 2022 8:09:06 GMT -5
Sid stuck out like a sore thumb in the Horsemen. I know the go to answer for the Horsemen is Paul Roma, but if Roma had been introduced and built up first, and not just thrown out there when they had been plugging it as the reunion of the original Horsemen until literally the segment began and Ric (after introducing the Andersons) casually said, "Tully's not here," he would have been a better fit than Sid. Sid fit in terms of the Horsemen being a group of winners in life, but yeah, he's also this huge mutant of a man, so it was a bit strange. It's a shame Jarrett was forced onto them, and thus the Horsemen were resentful of his presence, since Jeff otherwise made a lot of sense as a member, given his background was extremely reminiscent of Tully's. Roma, on the other hand, was at least a handsome, athletic type, so like you say, they could have built him into the part. It's hard to picture a world where Sid would fit in with them at all. Not that I'm a WCW expert since I haven't watched in nearly as much as I did with WWF, but I'd imagine Sid would make sense as a Horseman as the muscle of the group, which would help him stand out in a good way since all the other ones were of similar size. I think Sting being out of place in the Four Horseman was the whole point, which only lasted for what, a month? Jeff Jarrett was never an official member, and they teased it for a ridiculously long time wheather or not he was part of the group.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 10, 2022 8:24:49 GMT -5
Sid stuck out like a sore thumb in the Horsemen. I know the go to answer for the Horsemen is Paul Roma, but if Roma had been introduced and built up first, and not just thrown out there when they had been plugging it as the reunion of the original Horsemen until literally the segment began and Ric (after introducing the Andersons) casually said, "Tully's not here," he would have been a better fit than Sid. Sid fit in terms of the Horsemen being a group of winners in life, but yeah, he's also this huge mutant of a man, so it was a bit strange. It's a shame Jarrett was forced onto them, and thus the Horsemen were resentful of his presence, since Jeff otherwise made a lot of sense as a member, given his background was extremely reminiscent of Tully's. Roma, on the other hand, was at least a handsome, athletic type, so like you say, they could have built him into the part. It's hard to picture a world where Sid would fit in with them at all. Slapnuts was "too WWF" for me. Kind of like if the newz was true about Paul Orndorff joining, or earlier, Greg Valentine. Sid wasn't that bad, IMO. Not sure if it was weird for the Horsemen to have a Bubba type bodyguard figure, but.... Sting I know was for the sake of an angle, but yeah. I know he's a good guy and Ric et al liked him, but Mongo didn't really fit in either.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Mar 10, 2022 9:05:03 GMT -5
I remember when they strategically put one white guy in the No Limits Soldiers and one black guy in the West Texas Rednecks to try to avoid too much bad subtext. Hey Curly Bill was a true country boy!
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Mar 10, 2022 9:23:27 GMT -5
Dusty in the nWo.
I've always equated the Wolfpack to being the cool nWo and the Hollywood side to be the "sad midlife crisis dad" nWo
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Mar 10, 2022 10:15:46 GMT -5
Paul Roma would have been just fine in the Horsemen, if they had been heels at the time.
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 10, 2022 10:27:38 GMT -5
There is a Sunday WCW show where Windham, Austin and Pillman went against Arn, Flair and Roma and you could see the look of disdain Arn had in his face. He even slightly looks back like he's thinking "who set us up with this jabroni?" It was a short entrance way so not much time for Flair to do his gimmick but you could tell he wasn't into it and Roma himself looked like he knew he was disliked. You have five sure fire or potential hall of famers, even in 1993 and then you have a guy who lost almost every match from 1985 to 1991.
I thought Sid fit real well. Even as a kid watching on TV and having the Sid, Arn, Flair and Windham toys I felt like they belonged together. Unhinged, longer Sid didn't really come around until WWF so he was ok with a team in WCW.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 10, 2022 10:59:05 GMT -5
Mideon in the Ministry of Darkness. He was just the obvious jobber of the group.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 10, 2022 11:22:58 GMT -5
Sid fit in terms of the Horsemen being a group of winners in life, but yeah, he's also this huge mutant of a man, so it was a bit strange. It's a shame Jarrett was forced onto them, and thus the Horsemen were resentful of his presence, since Jeff otherwise made a lot of sense as a member, given his background was extremely reminiscent of Tully's. Roma, on the other hand, was at least a handsome, athletic type, so like you say, they could have built him into the part. It's hard to picture a world where Sid would fit in with them at all. Slapnuts was "too WWF" for me. Kind of like if the newz was true about Paul Orndorff joining, or earlier, Greg Valentine. Sid wasn't that bad, IMO. Not sure if it was weird for the Horsemen to have a Bubba type bodyguard figure, but.... Sting I know was for the sake of an angle, but yeah. I know he's a good guy and Ric et al liked him, but Mongo didn't really fit in either. Mongo at least had Debra with him and was a legitimate sports star, which fit with the whole "we're winners at life who are better than everyone" aspect of the Horsemen, so he had that. He didn't have much else, granted....
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 10, 2022 11:27:49 GMT -5
I remember when they strategically put one white guy in the No Limits Soldiers and one black guy in the West Texas Rednecks to try to avoid too much bad subtext. Hey Curly Bill was a true country boy! Ask anyone he works with at Olive Garden, the western BBQ chain.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 10, 2022 11:49:17 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett as the leader of The New Blood. The idea of the younger stars banding together to try to oust the older, established guys like Sting, Hogan, and Flair wasn’t all that bad and WCW certainly needed to elevate fresh talent. But of all people to be the figurehead of this movement of hungry, eager new stars-they pick a long time, highly decorated veteran?
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Post by thehottag on Mar 10, 2022 11:55:23 GMT -5
I was just about to bring up Manu lol Whatever happened to that guy? Last won the league in 2013, kind of lost their way since.
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Post by chrom on Mar 10, 2022 12:21:56 GMT -5
Slapnuts was "too WWF" for me. Kind of like if the newz was true about Paul Orndorff joining, or earlier, Greg Valentine. Sid wasn't that bad, IMO. Not sure if it was weird for the Horsemen to have a Bubba type bodyguard figure, but.... Sting I know was for the sake of an angle, but yeah. I know he's a good guy and Ric et al liked him, but Mongo didn't really fit in either. Mongo at least had Debra with him and was a legitimate sports star, which fit with the whole "we're winners at life who are better than everyone" aspect of the Horsemen, so he had that. He didn't have much else, granted.... Mongo had one thing that made him fit in with the group unlike Roma. The Swagger of a Horsemen, you could tell by the way he walked and held himself he was damn proud to be one while Roma was still in his Young Stallion jacket and trunks high fiving fans
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Post by jason1980s on Mar 10, 2022 12:35:04 GMT -5
I thought Mongo fit well and I wasn't even a football fan back. The fact that he enjoyed it was evident back then.
Most of the Ministry guys were guys who should have been future endeavored but they were company guys who would do anything asked. Mideon fit well just as much as Viscera and Acolytes did.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 10, 2022 15:26:46 GMT -5
And for that matter, Snuka's son whose name I can't recall I actually didn't mind Sim Snuka in the group, he didn't look as out of place as Manu. Anyone know why he got scrapped from the group? He wasn't as good a worker as the others... maybe they felt he dragged them down? Because Orton only wanted Cody and Ted in the first place, and kept loudly complaining backstage that they kept dropping Manu and Snuka on him. I think they were still trying to find something new for him before Michaels basically set him up to fail as the guy who was supposed to catch Taler at Mania, and then they immediately fired his ass.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 10, 2022 15:30:08 GMT -5
I actually didn't mind Sim Snuka in the group, he didn't look as out of place as Manu. Anyone know why he got scrapped from the group? He wasn't as good a worker as the others... maybe they felt he dragged them down? Because Orton only wanted Cody and Ted in the first place, and kept loudly complaining backstage that they kept dropping Manu and Snuka on him. I think they were still trying to find something new for him before Michaels basically set him up to fail as the guy who was supposed to catch Taler at Mania, and then they immediately fired his ass. He was right to do so, as both guys were hot garbage in the ring.
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Post by nickcave on Mar 10, 2022 16:35:05 GMT -5
Honestly the Giant in the nWo
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Post by fw91 on Mar 10, 2022 17:13:35 GMT -5
Kane in the corporation. He would have fit in quite nicely 15 years later lol.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Mar 10, 2022 17:34:43 GMT -5
One of these things is not like the others... I mean... we never talk about Sniper. Kurrgan, Recon/Bull Buchanan and Jackyl/Don Callis all came out of that as bigger names. Like, Sniper is even standing back from them in that picture, even he knows he's the odd man out!
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