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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Mar 15, 2022 13:41:55 GMT -5
BUT CAN BIANCA LIFT DOUDROP FOR THE KOD
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 16:57:59 GMT -5
My assumption is that they'll call up Raquel to play the monster heel for her until losing. There's also a possibility they'll do a proper feud with Rhea down the line as Bianca's wins over her came with caveats of Bianca coming in last in the gauntlet and last at Elimination Chamber, with the commentary repeatedly pointing out that Rhea had already had a 45-minute match that week.
I don't think they're gonna have Raquel be Bianca's monster to beat, I think she's gonna get called up as Queen Zelina's muscle. I hope so. Raquel's a solid enough wrestler, but she needs to be around someone with charisma.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Mar 15, 2022 17:08:42 GMT -5
I've said before one of the first local shows I went to had Viper v Nikki Storm on it so to see them side by side on Raw is somewhat surreal. So there's that.
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Post by DSR on Mar 15, 2022 17:23:17 GMT -5
BUT CAN BIANCA LIFT DOUDROP FOR THE KOD I've never seen Undertaker manhandled like this before.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 15, 2022 17:25:42 GMT -5
My assumption is that they'll call up Raquel to play the monster heel for her until losing. There's also a possibility they'll do a proper feud with Rhea down the line as Bianca's wins over her came with caveats of Bianca coming in last in the gauntlet and last at Elimination Chamber, with the commentary repeatedly pointing out that Rhea had already had a 45-minute match that week.
I don't think they're gonna have Raquel be Bianca's monster to beat, I think she's gonna get called up as Queen Zelina's muscle. I don't see it. Thing is they've pushed Raquel very hard on NXT. They put the belt on her and she's been heavily protected. I just have a hard time seeing them calling her up to play second fiddle to a midcard act like Zelina. When she gets called up it's likely going be "make a big deal very quickly" type deal. Probably several months undefeated and then being a heel challenger for either Bianca or Ronda.
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Post by gl83 on Mar 15, 2022 17:56:08 GMT -5
I don't think they're gonna have Raquel be Bianca's monster to beat, I think she's gonna get called up as Queen Zelina's muscle. I don't see it. Thing is they've pushed Raquel very hard on NXT. They put the belt on her and she's been heavily protected. I just have a hard time seeing them calling her up to play second fiddle to a midcard act like Zelina. When she gets called up it's likely going be "make a big deal very quickly" type deal. Probably several months undefeated and then being a heel challenger for either Bianca or Ronda. *Looks over at Pete Dunne Butch* ....if you say so.....
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 15, 2022 23:22:39 GMT -5
It's like they shouldn't have killed off the division with Sasha and Bayley... and then continued to kill it with Charlotte and Becky... and then fired half of the roster... or something <_< >_>
Seriously though, they need to either hire more women for slots... or start relying on local talents for random matches like what we usually get on Raw... Bianca could have literally faced anyone on raw last night... the angle doesn't really have anything to do with Doudrop... the match last night was just setting up for the Becky ambush post match...
edit: and I mean the return of Asuka, Bliss, and Bayley could help the divisions but... adding one or two more people that coming off an injury/break should look strong isn't going to help things...
Also I imagine Lacey Evan's has to be almost ready to return too... but that's another person that needs to be built up...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 15, 2022 23:24:40 GMT -5
It was cool the first time, no so much the next like four times
Like it's pathetic at this point, Doudrop and any chance she really had is being killed dead because she's like 0-5 vs Belair at this point, shit sucks
I know her being named "DOUDROP" should have been a clear indicator she was doomed, especially when Eva Marie left and she was STILL named that, but this is just sad. Asuka put her over for nothing...
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Post by mistery on Mar 15, 2022 23:31:19 GMT -5
It was cool the first time, no so much the next like four times Like it's pathetic at this point, Doudrop and any chance she really had is being killed dead because she's like 0-5 vs Belair at this point, shit sucks I know her being named "DOUDROP" should have been a clear indicator she was doomed, especially when Eva Marie left and she was STILL named that, but this is just sad. Asuka put her over for nothing... In hindsight, Asuka putting her over was an insanely bad move. Wouldn't be shocked if she (Asuka) gets a strong decisive win over Doudrop on her return though. But I do agree that even with several names returning, I can't see the audience taking too kindly to Bianca bulldozing over them either. Especially Alexa and Asuka. WWE might be able to get away with Bianca beating Lacey though without much backlash. Because look at Elimination Chamber. The crowd that should have been the most friendly towards Bianca turned somewhat hostile on her when she eliminated Rhea, and then became incredibly hostile when she pinned Alexa. Now imagine what (lets be honest here) will happen when she beats Asuka as well. That may just end her run as the top babyface (in the eyes of the fans) although it won't stop WWE from forcing her down our throats.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 15, 2022 23:33:14 GMT -5
Honestly I think if I were booking it the person I'd have Bianca ultimately lose the title to is Lacey and I wouldn't wait long on it. Lacey isn't great or, like, particularly good, but she's probably the most viable woman who hasn't been champion to move up the ranks (other than Shayna but y'know, other show) and most potential challengers for her would be relatively fresh.
Either way the women's divisions desperately need new blood because regardless of what moves you make with them right now they're really just running on fumes.
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Post by mistery on Mar 15, 2022 23:38:19 GMT -5
Honestly I think if I were booking it the person I'd have Bianca ultimately lose the title to is Lacey and I wouldn't wait long on it. Lacey isn't great or, like, particularly good, but she's probably the most viable woman who hasn't been champion to move up the ranks (other than Shayna but y'know, other show) and most potential challengers for her would be relatively fresh. Either way the women's divisions desperately need new blood because regardless of what moves you make with them right now they're really just running on fumes. Eh. I wouldn't put it on Lacey either. She isn't great at anything in particular, and she's kind of...not someone WWE would want to push as the big face in the women's division considering all of the allegations about her, including homophobia, racism, and other...less than tasteful things. Those skeletons are all pretty easy to dig up, and would be really hard for WWE to deflect from. Now obviously she was going to win it before she got pregnant, but she was almost certainly only holding it until Mania, where she would have lost it to Charlotte. Which is about a month long reign, give or take a week.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 16, 2022 0:32:48 GMT -5
Honestly I think if I were booking it the person I'd have Bianca ultimately lose the title to is Lacey and I wouldn't wait long on it. Lacey isn't great or, like, particularly good, but she's probably the most viable woman who hasn't been champion to move up the ranks (other than Shayna but y'know, other show) and most potential challengers for her would be relatively fresh. Either way the women's divisions desperately need new blood because regardless of what moves you make with them right now they're really just running on fumes. Thing with Lacey though is last time they were going to put the title on her she got pregnant. Which is good for her but at the same time it kind makes you wonder if you can trust her when it comes to putting her in a top position like that. And it's not like she's exactly Becky Lynch in that she isn't super over or someone they've invested that much into. Also I think the ship has just kind of sailed when it comes to Lacey in general. The time to pull the trigger on her was two years ago when she was the All American babyface feuding with Bayley for the title and they didn't do it. "Sassy Southern Belle" heel Lacey is just a lame character and to me there's just not enough her there for her to be a top player on either show. Like seriously in the year plus she's been gone I don't think she's really been that missed. They just have better options in either the established women they always pushed or the others who haven't got there a lot of whom have more going for then her in that they are either younger or just simply better. I'm sure they'll still push her decently as they've always liked her to an extent as she's basically clear value Charlotte but probably more in like a Carmella/Queen Zelina type way as in someone who gets a lot of TV time and is a Tag Champion but not one of the top girls.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 16, 2022 0:43:52 GMT -5
Honestly I think if I were booking it the person I'd have Bianca ultimately lose the title to is Lacey and I wouldn't wait long on it. Lacey isn't great or, like, particularly good, but she's probably the most viable woman who hasn't been champion to move up the ranks (other than Shayna but y'know, other show) and most potential challengers for her would be relatively fresh. Either way the women's divisions desperately need new blood because regardless of what moves you make with them right now they're really just running on fumes. Thing with Lacey though is last time they were going to put the title on her she got pregnant. Which is good for her but at the same time it kind makes you wonder if you can trust her when it comes to putting her in a top position like that. Pretty sure her employer holding her pregnancy against her is very, very illegal even in the US
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 16, 2022 0:49:50 GMT -5
Thing with Lacey though is last time they were going to put the title on her she got pregnant. Which is good for her but at the same time it kind makes you wonder if you can trust her when it comes to putting her in a top position like that. Pretty sure her employer holding her pregnancy against her is very, very illegal even in the US How would it be known that they would be holding it against her? Like if they just brought her back and jobbed her out and then released her immediately then you could argue that they are clearly holding it against her. However is she comes back and is just kind of in a midcard position how could any one say for a fact that her getting pregnant is the reason for her position? They could claim anything whether it be just simply they don't think she's good enough for a top position or there's others they find more qualified.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 16, 2022 0:57:20 GMT -5
Pretty sure her employer holding her pregnancy against her is very, very illegal even in the US How would it be known that they would be holding it against her? Like if they just brought her back and jobbed her out and then released her immediately then you could argue that they are clearly holding it against her. However is she comes back and is just kind of in a midcard position how could any one say for a fact that her getting pregnant is the reason for her position? They could claim anything whether it be just simply they don't think she's good enough for a top position or there's others they find more qualified. Same way Dawn Marie did?
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 16, 2022 1:01:31 GMT -5
How would it be known that they would be holding it against her? Like if they just brought her back and jobbed her out and then released her immediately then you could argue that they are clearly holding it against her. However is she comes back and is just kind of in a midcard position how could any one say for a fact that her getting pregnant is the reason for her position? They could claim anything whether it be just simply they don't think she's good enough for a top position or there's others they find more qualified. Same way Dawn Marie did? Dawn Marie was fired while pregnant which is a completely different thing. Lacey has already given birth and is still under contract.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 16, 2022 1:14:38 GMT -5
Dawn Marie was fired while pregnant which is a completely different thing. Lacey has already given birth and is still under contract. Fair enough. Totally thought she was released after she had her child. But just to make sure we’re on the same page, are you advocating a woman should be punished by her employer for having a child?
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 16, 2022 1:23:25 GMT -5
Doudrop needs Eva Marie to be her mentor again. Well, I need Eva Marie to be her mentor again. No, WE need Eva Marie to be her mentor again.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 16, 2022 2:14:08 GMT -5
Dawn Marie was fired while pregnant which is a completely different thing. Lacey has already given birth and is still under contract. Fair enough. Totally thought she was released after she had her child. But just to make sure we’re on the same page, are you advocating a woman should be punished by her employer for having a child? Punished? No. Definitely not. I definitely don't think they should be fired like Dawn was if that was really the main reason she was released. However the wrestling business is a much different beast then a regular job working in an office or a factory. Like if I was the head of a wrestling company and someone got pregnant right as I was giving them a big opportunity and their first big break I would be a little apprehensive about giving them a big opportunity like that again especially if I had plenty of other women just as or more deserving of an opportunity. Would I fire her? No. Would I punish her? No. However I would probably put her more in a decent middle of the road position and take a see how it goes approach. Like in a situation like with Lacey if she would come back and be good at her job (having good matches, getting over with the fans etc.) then I wouldn't have a problem gradually promoting her and giving her another shot. However if her performance isn't that good and there's others performing better that are more deserving from a work standpoint then I don't really think she should have any gripe.
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Post by eJm on Mar 16, 2022 2:53:15 GMT -5
We’re tipping over a line if we’re really going with the whole “Can’t trust a woman because she got pregnant” viewpoint.
People can have the views they want about it but going the direction we might be is…it’s not a great look.
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