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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 20, 2022 14:02:10 GMT -5
WrestleMania 39 is set for Sunday, April 2, 2023. It might end up a two-night event, but that's not the plan right now. Considering the two-night format for this year wasn’t confirmed until the summer last year, seems more like a “when” rather than an “if”. For me, if WWE is going to try and pack everyone onto cards and the choice is either “two nights” or “WrestleMania 34 is still going to this day”, I’m taking the former. YEah,2 nights is far superior to tune in at 6am EST for the preshow!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 14:04:33 GMT -5
It is only gonna get harder and harder having 2 nights because they aren't really making stars anymore and how many celebrities can they keep trotting out along with the legends and that pool is damn nere approaching dry spell territory real soon.
Nice to occasionally do two nights but trying every single year is IMO a horrible idea.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 20, 2022 14:08:42 GMT -5
International travel is a significant part of Wrestlemania's audience so I'm not surprised the wonky situation there contributes to less ticket sales.
Though with how huge Jerry Jones' monument to capitalism is and figuring in comped tickets, I don't think a few thousand empty seats will be very noticeable.
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Post by The Foreigner™: OffSZN on Mar 20, 2022 14:20:53 GMT -5
this has to be because everyone now understands the saudi events are equivalent to or more often greater than wrestlemania They'll need a 200,000-seat Silverdome in Jeddah soon, brother
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Post by Perd on Mar 20, 2022 14:29:43 GMT -5
WrestleMania 38 didn’t sell out. It bought in.
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Post by ghost on Mar 20, 2022 14:53:35 GMT -5
Getting 60k on back to back nights to watch the WWE in its current form is baffling. Brand loyalty is a real damn thing.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 20, 2022 20:16:15 GMT -5
Poor card for a 2 night Mania. If this was a one night show maybe it'd look a bit better, but the roster is just in a bad form
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 20, 2022 20:40:20 GMT -5
Poor card for a 2 night Mania. If this was a one night show maybe it'd look a bit better, but the roster is just in a bad form I don’t think it’s too shallow if Austin-Owens ends up being an actual main event match. Maybe just one big singles match shy on the Night 1 card if anything. You’d have Becky-Bianca, Rousey-Charlotte, Austin-Owens on Night 1 as the main event matches. And Reigns-Lesnar, Styles-Edge, Rhodes-Rollins on Night 2. Celebrity match with Logan Paul night 1 and then Knoxville night 2. Going to guess you get Priest-Demon on Night 1 as the other big men’s singles match (there’s also a cold McIntyre-Corbin match). RKBro tag team title match should be very good if that last triple threat tag was any indication. The Usos match seems a bit filler and cold. Hopefully Ricochet gets something meaningful- I think a car crash ladder match would be great. Trimming the fat and you can probably get one pretty kickass 9-match 4 hour show, though.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Mar 20, 2022 22:16:19 GMT -5
Getting 60k on back to back nights to watch the WWE in its current form is baffling. Brand loyalty is a real damn thing. A company can get complacent and make passive income on brand loyalty for many years,the median age WWE tv viewer is pensioner now so it's not a well they can rely on long term. A company doesn't go bankrupt in year xyz because they made mistakes in a specific it's down the line they pay the piper. K-Mart and Sears didn't start to turn to shit in 2010's that is just when they died for mistakes they made in the 90s and 00's.
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Post by r. on Mar 21, 2022 0:32:58 GMT -5
I'm sure once casual fans get whiff of Cody's return the number will Octuple
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Post by oxbaker on Mar 21, 2022 0:47:21 GMT -5
Getting 60k on back to back nights to watch the WWE in its current form is baffling. Brand loyalty is a real damn thing. Or maybe a lot of people like something you don’t like? I’ve been to four WMs and I will go again. It’s an incredible experience to be in a town full of wrestling fans with shows running almost nonstop Thursday through Sunday from the lower indies to the biggest spectacle in wrestling. Just because I don’t like a musical act doesn’t mean people who do are somehow inferior and have been brainwashed if they go to a concert. They like something I don’t. Live and let live.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 21, 2022 1:00:53 GMT -5
Considering the two-night format for this year wasn’t confirmed until the summer last year, seems more like a “when” rather than an “if”. For me, if WWE is going to try and pack everyone onto cards and the choice is either “two nights” or “WrestleMania 34 is still going to this day”, I’m taking the former. YEah,2 nights is far superior to tune in at 6am EST for the preshow! It was legit starting to get to that point for me with the time zone differences. But yeah, to me, the pros and cons of doing a two-night WM outweigh the pros and cons of a one-night WM. Especially since I know so many love the idea of a trim-and-tight four hour show, but don’t really want to make the sacrifices (shorter matches, less matches, talents missing out) to get to that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 21, 2022 1:13:45 GMT -5
Doesn't sound very STUPENDOUS of them does it?
In all seriousness this card feels like a raging flop to me. Out of two nights I feel like there might be three matches I give a shit about, and that's being generous. Not great.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Mar 21, 2022 1:45:50 GMT -5
Selling out two nights in a row was a pretty lofty goal in the first place. Personally, I hate the 2 night Mania idea It just seems pretentious to me, especially when the product is the absolute shots.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 21, 2022 7:13:49 GMT -5
Selling out two nights in a row was a pretty lofty goal in the first place. Personally, I hate the 2 night Mania idea It just seems pretentious to me, especially when the product is the absolute shots. Can we have a 2 night Superbowl so the two worst teams get to play a game too?
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Post by eJm on Mar 21, 2022 7:19:58 GMT -5
Look, the true solution to this is to have a regular 4 hour WrestleMania where the biggest matches are held and you're not doing everything in your power to give everyone a big match and build the weekend around other shows where big matches can happen that have ramifications for after WrestleMania but EoE: Well There's Your Problem mentioned reasons why in this era of WWE that just wouldn't be possible (a lot of it being their own doing, some of it to do with fan perception caused by that loss of goodwill and faith in the product) so in terms of a solution...two days makes the most sense. The issue is a philosophy one that WWE has no reason to address considering the money so this is frankly the best we're going to get until they're somehow forced to do that.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 21, 2022 7:47:47 GMT -5
Look, the true solution to this is to have a regular 4 hour WrestleMania where the biggest matches are held and you're not doing everything in your power to give everyone a big match and build the weekend around other shows where big matches can happen that have ramifications for after WrestleMania but EoE: Well There's Your Problem mentioned reasons why in this era of WWE that just wouldn't be possible (a lot of it being their own doing, some of it to do with fan perception caused by that loss of goodwill and faith in the product) so in terms of a solution...two days makes the most sense. The issue is a philosophy one that WWE has no reason to address considering the money so this is frankly the best we're going to get until they're somehow forced to do that. WWE are not telling stories. They dont have a message. They are a content machine. As long as they generate enough content that satisfies their networks minimum expectations then they are a success.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2022 7:50:44 GMT -5
WrestleMania 39 is set for Sunday, April 2, 2023. It might end up a two-night event, but that's not the plan right now. Considering the two-night format for this year wasn’t confirmed until the summer last year, seems more like a “when” rather than an “if”. For me, if WWE is going to try and pack everyone onto cards and the choice is either “two nights” or “WrestleMania 34 is still going to this day”, I’m taking the former. It sucks that their fans think those are the only two options now. How about one Mania that is an hour longer than a usual ppv like they used to do until about 5 years ago? Edit: nevermind you agreed with me like a a few posts later.
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Post by eJm on Mar 21, 2022 7:53:12 GMT -5
Look, the true solution to this is to have a regular 4 hour WrestleMania where the biggest matches are held and you're not doing everything in your power to give everyone a big match and build the weekend around other shows where big matches can happen that have ramifications for after WrestleMania but EoE: Well There's Your Problem mentioned reasons why in this era of WWE that just wouldn't be possible (a lot of it being their own doing, some of it to do with fan perception caused by that loss of goodwill and faith in the product) so in terms of a solution...two days makes the most sense. The issue is a philosophy one that WWE has no reason to address considering the money so this is frankly the best we're going to get until they're somehow forced to do that. WWE are not telling stories. They dont have a message. They are a content machine. As long as they generate enough content that satisfies their networks minimum expectations then they are a success. I didn't say they were nor would that ever change. I'm just going with the logic of why having two shows where people are actually reacting to stuff going on instead of one show where the main event is full of pin-dropping deathly silence is better for that objective.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 21, 2022 7:55:40 GMT -5
I'm definitely in the 1 night WM camp. Feels more special to me.
No reason why they couldn't have a WM that goes 4 hours like a typical AEW PPV. I just can't look forward to WM this year, too much filler that I couldn't give a shit about.
Instead of 16-18 matches have 9 matches and 2-3 on the preshow, like Revolution.
So this year for example there's 8 title matches..
Preshow you could have the Women's tag titie match since they're f***ing worthless and maybe the US title match or one of the mens tag title matches. Then on the main show you have the unification match, both womens title matches, the IC title match and one of the tag titles that wasn't on the preshow. That's 5 matches so far on the main show and all your titles defended.
Then you have your 4 grudge matches/big matches like Cody/Seth, Edge/Styles, Mcintyre/Corbyn and the KO/Austin stuff.
That's a 4 hour PPV with no filler. I would take that any day over 2 nights
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