knightboat
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Post by knightboat on Mar 20, 2022 1:36:57 GMT -5
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Topher is Human
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Post by Topher is Human on Mar 20, 2022 2:28:30 GMT -5
That’s a bit of a mouth full, I thought Wrestlemania: Backlash was a silly title. Just keep it as “Now Way Out”
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 20, 2022 2:45:39 GMT -5
A lot of international fans won't be ready to travel this year so not surprising.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 20, 2022 4:33:59 GMT -5
Only WWE could make it so that getting 60,000 people to a stadium to watch any sort of wrestling, let alone WWE at such a critical low, on back-to-back nights seems like a failure.
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Post by eJm on Mar 20, 2022 4:39:38 GMT -5
A lot of international fans won't be ready to travel this year so not surprising. I’d say this is a big factor. For as much as people are willing to go to events and do things again (and as someone in Dublin during Paddy’s Day weekend, I should know), there’s still something to be said that people have seen what happened this past year in America with COVID and thought it wasn’t worth it right now. Combined with the lackluster card for the most part, it’s not really worth it. Now if LA next year doesn’t sell out off a potential Rock/Roman main event after a year of seeing where things stand COVID wise? Then we’ll have a real concern.
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Post by thehottag on Mar 20, 2022 4:54:34 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 32 was in the same building, & WWE had to give away loads of free tickets to fill the stadium. Since then, interest in the product has fallen, there's been a pandemic which has restricted travel, & they're running over 2 nights meaning they have to sell twice as many tickets.
I'm genuinely astonished they've done as well as they have, tbh.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Mar 20, 2022 5:09:05 GMT -5
They've actually managed to make people not give a shit about two huge stars unifying the world titles in the main event of the biggest show of the year. Say what you will, but that takes skill.
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Post by thirteen3 on Mar 20, 2022 5:27:02 GMT -5
roughly 58,000 for the 2 nights, can they still profit off the gate?
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 20, 2022 6:11:26 GMT -5
If Dave says they inflated the number by 20k last time, that'd mean 80,000 tickets. So his prediction of 65-70k per night would be about what you'd expect, no?
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 20, 2022 7:16:11 GMT -5
Last time they were there, they sold 80,000 tickets. Now they’re running two nights and have already sold around 120,000 tickets. Expecting 160,000 tickets sold seems like a bit of a reach, especially with the pandemic still potentially affecting some’s willingness to travel.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 20, 2022 9:57:49 GMT -5
I just saw on Twitter someone posting pictures of a house show in Springfield (Mass I guess). Looked like a building they’d tape Raw in in 1994/5 and it was half full.
They’re probably going to be using some very creative camera angles at Mania.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 20, 2022 9:59:14 GMT -5
I just saw on Twitter someone posting pictures of a house show in Springfield (Mass I guess). Looked like a building they’d tape Raw in in 1994/5 and it was half full. They’re probably going to be using some very creative camera angles at Mania. The place will look full if they have 65K out of a possible 80K sold (which is how it’s trending if they’re at near-60K already). Meltzer said they usually comp around 10K as it gets closer too so they may have a legit 75K in the building.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Mar 20, 2022 10:03:20 GMT -5
I just saw on Twitter someone posting pictures of a house show in Springfield (Mass I guess). Looked like a building they’d tape Raw in in 1994/5 and it was half full. They’re probably going to be using some very creative camera angles at Mania. They need to run a show in Chillicothe, Ohio. Bobby Fulton just booked a show with nothing but a handful of legends who weren’t wrestling and a bunch of out of shape locals and drew 2,000+ to a high school gym. Hit up the poor towns in Appalachia and WWE would sell out again.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 20, 2022 10:07:47 GMT -5
A lot of international fans won't be ready to travel this year so not surprising. This. Mania is an event that draws fans from all over the world. With a lot of them unwilling or unable you are going to take a hit. While I agree with the OP that the "brand is the star" practice does not lead to good business Mania is the exception. It will draw well based upon name value. Maybe not as well as if you have big stars but well regardless.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 20, 2022 11:01:04 GMT -5
This is why the two night Wrestlemania thing (Wrestle Kingdom too) is never going away. Even if there’s a stadium big enough you’re probably never going to sell over 100,000 tickets to a single show. It’s literally never happened in the history of pro wrestling (WM 32 sold around 80,000 and Collision in Korea barely sold any tickets, most were forced to attend).
Doing it over two nights though and suddenly you can blow 100,000 out the water. If they’re at almost 120,000 with 2 weeks to go then they’re probably gonna end up with around 130,000 sold.
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Post by cjh on Mar 20, 2022 12:15:45 GMT -5
This is why the two night Wrestlemania thing (Wrestle Kingdom too) is never going away. Even if there’s a stadium big enough you’re probably never going to sell over 100,000 tickets to a single show. It’s literally never happened in the history of pro wrestling (WM 32 sold around 80,000 and Collision in Korea barely sold any tickets, most were forced to attend). Doing it over two nights though and suddenly you can blow 100,000 out the water. If they’re at almost 120,000 with 2 weeks to go then they’re probably gonna end up with around 130,000 sold. WrestleMania 39 is set for Sunday, April 2, 2023. It might end up a two-night event, but that's not the plan right now.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 20, 2022 12:32:10 GMT -5
THERE'S NO WAY IT SELLS OUT THERE'S NO SHORTCUT HOME
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 20, 2022 12:32:10 GMT -5
Selling out two nights in a row was a pretty lofty goal in the first place. Personally, I hate the 2 night Mania idea
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Post by eJm on Mar 20, 2022 13:16:20 GMT -5
WrestleMania 39 is set for Sunday, April 2, 2023. It might end up a two-night event, but that's not the plan right now. Considering the two-night format for this year wasn’t confirmed until the summer last year, seems more like a “when” rather than an “if”. For me, if WWE is going to try and pack everyone onto cards and the choice is either “two nights” or “WrestleMania 34 is still going to this day”, I’m taking the former.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Mar 20, 2022 13:54:47 GMT -5
this has to be because everyone now understands the saudi events are equivalent to or more often greater than wrestlemania
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