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Post by sungod2020 on Jun 19, 2023 15:16:46 GMT -5
If they planned on keeping Chyna in the women's division, they could've had her face Jazz as a formidable challenger since she debuted at the 2001 Survivor Series which was right before Chyna's WWF contract expired. If they weren't going to renew her contract, the 9th Wonder of the World could've put her over before quietly being written out.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jun 19, 2023 15:50:59 GMT -5
Lance Storm and Kurt Angle. They actually did have televised matches but never a proper program with a story to it. I have long thought Storm vs Angle should have been a centerpiece of InVasion.
Sting and Undertaker. For sure it would have under-delivered in the ring but the spectacle alone would have been well worth it.
The Rock and DDP, the people’s champions.
Mike Awesome and Kane. The big red machine was still stupid shoot for a man his size back in the 2000’s. They could have put on a hard hitting clinic.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 19, 2023 16:26:32 GMT -5
I'm surprised we never got RVD vs Kidman in a singles match (they had some face offs in tag matches).
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 20, 2023 9:19:45 GMT -5
Here's a more recent one, Triple H was forced to retire just as Cody made his WWE return. We also missed out on HHH vs Tribal Chief Roman.
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Post by stephen90 on Jun 20, 2023 17:45:21 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels and The Rock surprisely never worked a match.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Jun 20, 2023 17:52:59 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels and The Rock surprisely never worked a match. That was actually pretty deliberate on the Rock's part. During his rookie years, Shawn allegedly tried to sabotage his initial push, and Rock never forgot, so when Shawn came back, Rock had the clout to refuse to work with him, and used it.
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Post by AKIMan64 on Jun 20, 2023 18:38:33 GMT -5
Sting vs. Raven - They were on the same roster in WCW 1997 - 1999. At the height of his popularity as the Crow, Sting having an antithesis in a cult politician like Raven could've led to some great promos and a potentially incredible match for the ages. Imagine Sting taking out the Flock the same he would for the nWo I think would have blown the roof off.
CM Punk vs. RVD - Both of them were on the ECW brand in 2006/2007. Both of them were faces but by the time Punk really got into his groove, RVD was on his way out of WWE. Would it have been a face vs face or a traditional face vs heel dynamic?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 21, 2023 3:05:24 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels and The Rock surprisely never worked a match. That was actually pretty deliberate on the Rock's part. During his rookie years, Shawn allegedly tried to sabotage his initial push, and Rock never forgot, so when Shawn came back, Rock had the clout to refuse to work with him, and used it. That is often the story, and there is merit to it, since HBK saw him as a potential threat to Triple H. The irony, of course, being that the two were arguably one another's best feuds and had tremendous chemistry with each other. I think that might be part of why Rock would give Triple H a pass and not Shawn, since Trips at least put the work in and made money with him. Alternatively, it's also been suggested Shawn was a dickhead to Rock's grandmother, a wrestling promoter who was the matriarch of the Anoa'i family for many years, and that was the source of the acrimony. I've seen various versions of this and when it would have occurred, but it isn't like it's that hard to imagine a guy who, by his own admission, was sometimes so unnecessarily hateful and belligerent that he wrote a slur on a woman's jacket who asked for an autograph being the kind of guy who'd be a prick to a figure of power and respect that he didn't feel like being nice to for whatever reason. I don't know if the Rock has ever really come out and said it, though judging by "Chad Frost" from Young Rock, I couldn't tell you if he's forgiven, but he's certainly not forgotten.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 21, 2023 9:20:11 GMT -5
I am surprised we never got Earthquake vs The Undertaker.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 21, 2023 10:00:20 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels and The Rock surprisely never worked a match. That was actually pretty deliberate on the Rock's part. During his rookie years, Shawn allegedly tried to sabotage his initial push, and Rock never forgot, so when Shawn came back, Rock had the clout to refuse to work with him, and used it. When did he refuse to work with Shawn? By the time he was a big enough star to have that kind of stroke Shawn was in his first retirement anyway. And even during that time they still worked together quite a bit. There was some Corporation/DX stuff in late 98/early 99 and he refereed a couple Rock/HHH matches in 99-2000. And the show Shawn returned on was basically the end of Rock as a full-timer then when Rock returned in 2011 it was a year after Shawn had retired again. There wasn't many openings to do the match. Wrestlemania 19 and 20 are really the only possibilities but I've never heard that match was planned and Rock turned it down. Also, when he inducted his dad into the Hall of Fame he named Shawn (and Cena and Rey) as the 3 guys he'd love to face if he returned so I don't think the heat was that bad.
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Post by chrom on Jun 21, 2023 10:49:29 GMT -5
I am surprised we never got Earthquake vs The Undertaker. If Earthquake had stayed, I could have seen him facing them at 11 instead of Bundy.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 22, 2023 15:36:58 GMT -5
Hogan and Kane. I know Kane was a face at the time, but I'm surprised they never had a match during Hogan's nostalgia tour in 2002.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jun 22, 2023 15:44:48 GMT -5
Hogan and Kane. I know Kane was a face at the time, but I'm surprised they never had a match during Hogan's nostalgia tour in 2002. They did team with the Rock against I believe NWO on a Smackdown.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 22, 2023 16:08:32 GMT -5
I am surprised we never got Earthquake vs The Undertaker. If Earthquake had stayed, I could have seen him facing them at 11 instead of Bundy. I'm currently working on a project rebooking the WWF from 1989 to 1995 that I should have up on here soon and I never even used Bundy and just had Earthquake in his spot. It's too bad they saw more value in Yoko as honestly at that point I think Earthquake had more value and could've been more of an asset for them especially as a heel. Unlike Yoko his weight hadn't got out of control and he could still be effective in the ring and it wasn't even like there was that much of an age difference either as he was only three older. Quake could've been very useful for them in 94-95 in that he would've given them a quality fat guy monster heel that they needed to be a foil for their top faces (Taker, Diesel, Bret) as apposed to having to rely on out of shape Yoko, way past his prime Bundy, and super green Mabel.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 27, 2023 5:34:00 GMT -5
If Earthquake had stayed, I could have seen him facing them at 11 instead of Bundy. I'm currently working on a project rebooking the WWF from 1989 to 1995 that I should have up on here soon and I never even used Bundy and just had Earthquake in his spot. It's too bad they saw more value in Yoko as honestly at that point I think Earthquake had more value and could've been more of an asset for them especially as a heel. Unlike Yoko his weight hadn't got out of control and he could still be effective in the ring and it wasn't even like there was that much of an age difference either as he was only three older. Quake could've been very useful for them in 94-95 in that he would've given them a quality fat guy monster heel that they needed to be a foil for their top faces (Taker, Diesel, Bret) as apposed to having to rely on out of shape Yoko, way past his prime Bundy, and super green Mabel. My only worry would be how you'd build him up. He could talk, but never really found much outside Earthquake that really clicked (admittedly, look at what they gave him to work with!), and Earthquake would have been seen as a bit of a holdover from the past, even with it only being a few years things had changed so much. He was someone who had been dominant but beaten by Hogan, had slipped into a tag and midcard role. He had the talent, but needed a revamp before he could be at or around the main event again.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 27, 2023 6:32:27 GMT -5
I'm currently working on a project rebooking the WWF from 1989 to 1995 that I should have up on here soon and I never even used Bundy and just had Earthquake in his spot. It's too bad they saw more value in Yoko as honestly at that point I think Earthquake had more value and could've been more of an asset for them especially as a heel. Unlike Yoko his weight hadn't got out of control and he could still be effective in the ring and it wasn't even like there was that much of an age difference either as he was only three older. Quake could've been very useful for them in 94-95 in that he would've given them a quality fat guy monster heel that they needed to be a foil for their top faces (Taker, Diesel, Bret) as apposed to having to rely on out of shape Yoko, way past his prime Bundy, and super green Mabel. My only worry would be how you'd build him up. He could talk, but never really found much outside Earthquake that really clicked (admittedly, look at what they gave him to work with!), and Earthquake would have been seen as a bit of a holdover from the past, even with it only being a few years things had changed so much. He was someone who had been dominant but beaten by Hogan, had slipped into a tag and midcard role. He had the talent, but needed a revamp before he could be at or around the main event again. Thing was Hogan never actually pinned him. He won only by count out at Summerslam and then won the feud by throwing him over the top rope to win the Royal Rumble and pinning Dino Bravo in tag team matches. I don't think he really needed much of a revamp with him being such a big and believable guy. And he was always booked strong during his first run other then maybe the last few months. I would have him come back as a face like they did but then have him turn heel by selling out to Dibiase where maybe he turns on Bret in a tag match so fans would have a good reason not to like him. Then he goes on a terror stretchering guys out with the butt splash like he did in 90-91 to set him up as a title challenger for Bret. Then after that could be put into a feud with Undertaker for Wrestlemania.
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Post by XIII on Jun 27, 2023 8:09:04 GMT -5
Did HBK ever wrestle with either of the Steiners? Can only imagine how that would have gone. LMAO
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Post by nickcave on Jun 27, 2023 13:43:50 GMT -5
Did HBK ever wrestle with either of the Steiners? Can only imagine how that would have gone. LMAO I could be wrong but I think the only time HBK and Scott Steiner interacted was in the 2003 Survivor Series match
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 28, 2023 16:11:12 GMT -5
Did HBK ever wrestle with either of the Steiners? Can only imagine how that would have gone. LMAO I could be wrong but I think the only time HBK and Scott Steiner interacted was in the 2003 Survivor Series match Even then they were never in the ring together. Scott was eliminated early and HBK didn't actually tag in until about half way into the match where from that point on he was in there petty much the rest of the way with him being outnumber 3 to 1 against Orton, Jericho, and Christian. Believe it or not I don't think there would've been an issue if they wrestled in say 93 when they were both in the WWF. I think the Steiners would've known better not to mess with Vince's boy toy. It seems Rick and him at least got along fine as he's the one who called Kevin Nash about his contract situation when Shawn wanted him to come in as his bodyguard as he asked the Steiners about since he figured he knew them from WCW.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 5, 2023 19:55:05 GMT -5
Razor Ramon and Ultimate Warrior.
Twice in the WWF.
August 1992 - November 1992
March 1996 - April 1996.
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