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Post by ghost on Apr 16, 2022 22:25:11 GMT -5
Sammy is a heel. Period. Yes he has a video game moveset which will pop the crowd but dude wakes up and goes to bed a douchebag. Play into that, "turn the volume up" as they say, and he'll reach whatever ceiling he has as a talent. Thankfully they are not resisting and diving head first into it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 16, 2022 22:27:30 GMT -5
I just wonder if some of the negativity on Twitter and such to the belt changing hands this soon back to Sammy in what was a good back and forth match "Devaluing its aura" would have been the same energy if Wardlow jacked it from Scorpio a week after he won it in the squash it was going to be, I'm gonna go with no lol
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 16, 2022 22:30:14 GMT -5
I just hope they let Tay still do stuff beyond just being on Sammy’s arm and getting involved in his matches. It should feel like a real team.
That happens too often in these types of stories imo.
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Post by holyshida on Apr 16, 2022 22:33:34 GMT -5
I just hope they let Tay still do stuff beyond just being on Sammy’s arm and getting involved in his matches. It should feel like a real team. That happens too often in these types of stories imo. Tay Conti needs to win one of the titles and for them to become a big time power couple. This is an idea I presented... mobile.twitter.com/AewNo1/status/1515519732824354816
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Apr 16, 2022 22:39:47 GMT -5
Can Miro come back and destroy Sammy, Please?
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 16, 2022 22:39:49 GMT -5
Yeah. The whole thing works better if they’re both holding gold and rubbing it in people’s faces.
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Post by Celgress on Apr 16, 2022 22:43:38 GMT -5
Can Miro come back and destroy Sammy, Please? pretty please
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Apr 16, 2022 22:43:50 GMT -5
This might just be my evil bloodlust talking, but like I think heel Sammy should ABSOLUTELY be playing in to the "he's messed up the TNT title's image" stuff. Seriously let him throw that shit around Naito style or hang it from the front of his pants like MNM used to. The dude who beats him should literally be rescuing the title from this lil bastard.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Apr 16, 2022 23:06:46 GMT -5
Oh look, the fans turned on someone, and they didn't have an issue turning heel.
I'm on the Miro boat. Imagine that pop.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 16, 2022 23:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 0:44:44 GMT -5
Unlike... someone else from AEW, Sammy is at least willing to GO HEEL.
Remember when we all unironically loved seeing him destroyed and we called him f***boy? That was prime Sammy Guevara, to me. Honestly, he has such a punchable face that he's a perfect douchebag heel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 1:45:56 GMT -5
Sammy is far more AEW's Miz than MJF. Punchable face, troll gimmick, uses IRL partner to get heat, okay in the ring but not amazing, useless as a face.
MJF is more like HHH before he met Steph and got control of his own booking, a real arsehole who is frustratingly good.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 17, 2022 5:17:42 GMT -5
We have to remake this image every time they kiss, inserting in the image of the new kiss.
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Post by lucas_lee on Apr 17, 2022 5:22:25 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels. I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. For me, and I know this is going to sound so woo and unscientific, I felt like their energies were just off-synch in a way that drew attention to the uncomfortable elements. Like, Britt Baker and Adam Cole going full PDA worked for me, because they seemed to embrace that they were a villain couple and that they were going to carry that vibe together. It sometimes felt like Sammy and Tay were being extra but in ways that were subtly off from one another, and when piled onto bad material, it just got grating. I kinda feel that too because these two got threats and stuff over their relationship IRL and now they gotta do this as a gimmick. Would make me have some pause definitely
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2022 5:41:08 GMT -5
This might just be my evil bloodlust talking, but like I think heel Sammy should ABSOLUTELY be playing in to the "he's messed up the TNT title's image" stuff. Seriously let him throw that shit around Naito style or hang it from the front of his pants like MNM used to. The dude who beats him should literally be rescuing the title from this lil bastard. I feel like it'd be great so long as the network's okay with it, since yeah, they unfortunately might have their reservations. Still, it's so easy to picture Miro just absolutely annihilating him if they bring him back as a face and not, say, against Hangman. If not Miro, I could see Lance Archer or Keith Lee tearing him limb from limb.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2022 5:42:35 GMT -5
Unlike... someone else from AEW, Sammy is at least willing to GO HEEL. Remember when we all unironically loved seeing him destroyed and we called him f***boy? That was prime Sammy Guevara, to me. Honestly, he has such a punchable face that he's a perfect douchebag heel. Cody went to WWE and is really, really over as a face. Honestly, it kind of vindicated him on there still being meat on that bone, at least in an environment that was starved for a top level face at this point due to WWE watering most of them down.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 17, 2022 5:51:02 GMT -5
As far as Dan Lambert goes, there's definitely got to be stuff they fix, but they also keep shooting him people who absolutely will not look sympathetic against him. Inner Circle made shitty comments about PVZ that threw off the whole vibe of their feud. MJF would have gotten cheered against late 2021 Cody, and unfortunately yeah crowds seem way too willing to pop for someone being misogynistic to a woman if they don't like that woman so instead of making people sympathetic to Brandi it made people cheer him calling Brandi a stripper. Sami and Tay are trying to launch this on-screen pairing with good will they don't have and shots back that did not seem likeable and did not mesh into a cohesive whole.
But in that brief bit where he got added to the Hangman vs. Archer feud for some reason, he was getting booed for his stuff, because Hangman is a sympathetic face. I don't know if it's Tony having trouble with understanding which of his faces can pull that off--Inner Circle got pops but they definitely were not the kind of guys who could sell their side of that program--but hopefully they can find a groove. I love Dan Lambert on-screen, I think he's a great manager with a great energy to what he does, and he looks like the world's hugest buffoon when he gets thwarted in the best way, but he needs to have the right opposition.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 17, 2022 6:31:56 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels. I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I think it dates back to attractive couples in wrestling usually being heels and goes back as far as Shawn Michaels and Sherry (possibly further). It's usually easy heat because of wrestling fans largely being made up of single men/overly macho men. Plus with this one the circumstances still bother me a bit. Sammy proposed to some poor woman infront of the World, then he's with a co-worker. Maybe she was horrible person, who knows, but with Sammy looking like every Tinder f***boy rolled into one it doesn't help his case. Either way they'll kill it as heels.
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Post by clifford on Apr 17, 2022 6:42:32 GMT -5
I feel like Sammy could've turned heel without winning the title? I dunno, feels like the prestige of the TNT title has cratered in the last few months.
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Post by sunnytaker on Apr 17, 2022 7:49:06 GMT -5
i just have the feeling this is the same angle they wanted to do with cody and brandi and they just threw sammy and tay into the slot (cause "we need a couple for the role") when cody and brandi left and told them "be over the top obnoxious about your relationship" and unlike cody, sammy was fine with turning heel as a result. he's kinda the heel/face revolving door trope at this point for AEW i think.
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