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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 16, 2022 20:07:30 GMT -5
Someone come up with a better portmanteau for them, I'm a busy man
GOD I hate these two as an onscreen item
Turning them heel was absolutely the right choice, now I have no reason to feel bad when I hate seeing how happy they are together.
I'm sure they're great people in real life, but on social media and on TV they're absolutely poisonous and I will enjoy waiting for some good quality babyface to knock Sammy's head into the third throw. I feel like Keith Lee might be a good choice for that, Sammy's got hops, and Keith's got big throws, y'all
The weirder outlier of this is that it seems like the MOTY may have kind of turned babyface in this match, which feels like it's absolutely against nature. Surely that means they turn on Lambert? It's not like they need him for the mic work
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Apr 16, 2022 20:10:24 GMT -5
I think Lambert just needs to go, at this point. For as much as he plays what is theoretically the perfect AEW heel, I think he might be demonstrating that there's more to being a good heel than just saying stuff calculated to piss off the audience, because he has demonstrably failed to get any babyface over.
Tay Conti as a heel is now my front runner to take the belt off Thunder Rosa.
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 16, 2022 20:12:26 GMT -5
I called them "Cuevara" recently, but "Taymmy" does sound better.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 16, 2022 20:14:17 GMT -5
Tay Guevara, everyone's least favourite revolutionary.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 16, 2022 20:14:47 GMT -5
I do think it's time to just ditch Lambert entirely. The guy gets booed, sure, but he isn't at all good at actually making people give a f*** about the faces he's paired up against so it's basically just intentionally bad TV that's bad and that's the end of it.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Apr 16, 2022 20:17:47 GMT -5
I feel like Dan Lambert is a common denominator in these feuds not working. Sure, Sammy wasn’t the greatest face towards the end, but even as late as his Ladder Match with Cody he was still a very over babyface. But once he and Tay feuded with him, it felt like they decided to be “edgy” to match Lambert’s edginess and then it went down hill for him. I think Lambert brings the worst out of babyfaces, not their best. Heck, Jericho turned heel fairly soon after feuding with him.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Apr 16, 2022 20:20:36 GMT -5
I think Lambert just needs to go, at this point. For as much as he plays what is theoretically the perfect AEW heel, I think he might be demonstrating that there's more to being a good heel than just saying stuff calculated to piss off the audience, because he has demonstrably failed to get any babyface over. Tay Conti as a heel is now my front runner to take the belt off Thunder Rosa. Also it's always really damn bad when Dan Lambert says something super misogynistic to a babyface and a million dudes in the crowd go OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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Post by Fade on Apr 16, 2022 20:23:17 GMT -5
Someone come up with a better portmanteau for them, I'm a busy man GOD I hate these two as an onscreen item Turning them heel was absolutely the right choice, now I have no reason to feel bad when I hate seeing how happy they are together. I'm sure they're great people in real life, but on social media and on TV they're absolutely poisonous and I will enjoy waiting for some good quality babyface to knock Sammy's head into the third throw. I feel like Keith Lee might be a good choice for that, Sammy's got hops, and Keith's got big throws, y'all The weirder outlier of this is that it seems like the MOTY may have kind of turned babyface in this match, which feels like it's absolutely against nature. Surely that means they turn on Lambert? It's not like they need him for the mic work The image of Lee obliterating Sammy does sound cathartic. No idea what to do with Lambert/Sky but Ethan 100% deserves a chance to shine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 20:23:49 GMT -5
If ATT have outgrown Lambert then stick him with Varsity Blondes, they’ll be a vacancy if Julia Hart joins HoB and putting him with two guys with potential but are bland and struggle on the mic would be up his street.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Apr 16, 2022 20:24:47 GMT -5
I don't think they should outright let Lambert go as much as I think they should have him do something more similar to his belt collector "i know more about wrestling than all these young bastards" shtick from Impact. He was rly good in that role. The "is he or is he not Jim Cornette" thing is like pure distilled penis.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Apr 16, 2022 20:25:56 GMT -5
At least me, as a guy who still thinks Sammy is a great talent, that him being heel, I can still look forward to his matches and want to see him get beat up. He’s really good at being that.
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Post by Facetious on Apr 16, 2022 20:27:15 GMT -5
Sammy needs to be heel, everything about him screams douche.
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Post by markymark on Apr 16, 2022 20:30:52 GMT -5
Yeah that should cement Scorpio, Ethan and PVZ as the faces...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 16, 2022 20:30:58 GMT -5
Lambert just needs to shift his shtick a bit, and I think he's fine
But Sammy and Tay going heel is the right move, even if we didnt have this feud I feel like people were kinda sick of Face Sammy, he needed a breath of fresh air, and Conti could be a great asshole heel too
Page either taking the belt back or Miro coming back and wrecking Sammy would be my candidates for next champion
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 16, 2022 20:32:30 GMT -5
I'm surprised Sammy worked as well as he did as a babyface for a while, tbh. He's got one of the most punchable faces in wrestling.
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Apr 16, 2022 20:34:18 GMT -5
Yeah that should cement Scorpio, Ethan and PVZ as the faces...
American Top Team as babyface tweeners in the same vein as Blackpool Combat Club could probably work way better than it has any right to on paper.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Apr 16, 2022 20:35:12 GMT -5
I'm surprised Sammy worked as well as he did as a babyface for a while, tbh. He's got one of the most punchable faces in wrestling. I think he works as a face depending on who he is up against. His character work and match with MJF I felt tremendous. But he can’t be an attitude era edgy babyface, because then his heelish nature creeps in and it becomes very unlikable.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Apr 16, 2022 20:40:25 GMT -5
I'm surprised Sammy worked as well as he did as a babyface for a while, tbh. He's got one of the most punchable faces in wrestling. I think he works as a face depending on who he is up against. His character work and match with MJF I felt tremendous. But he can’t be an attitude era edgy babyface, because then his heelish nature creeps in and it becomes very unlikable. Y'know, that's a good way of putting it, and I think it's also the reason Lambert's been inadvertently turning guys face: it's all well and good to go low for heat, but does the face actually have ammunition for a response that doesn't make him look worse? Feels like Sammy and Brandi in particular were exposed by not having universally laudable zingers in response to Lambert going for the throat.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 16, 2022 20:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah that should cement Scorpio, Ethan and PVZ as the faces...
Ethan Page cuts one of the best promos in wrestling and people gotta stop pretending like he doesn't. Dude's a star.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Apr 16, 2022 20:48:14 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels.
I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great.
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