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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2022 7:53:42 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels. I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I think it dates back to attractive couples in wrestling usually being heels and goes back as far as Shawn Michaels and Sherry (possibly further). It's usually easy heat because of wrestling fans largely being made up of single men/overly macho men. Plus with this one the circumstances still bother me a bit. Sammy proposed to some poor woman infront of the World, then he's with a co-worker. Maybe she was horrible person, who knows, but with Sammy looking like every Tinder f***boy rolled into one it doesn't help his case. Either way they'll kill it as heels. Honestly, this is outside looking in, but I think the proposal, while well-meaning in all likelihood, was also symptomatic of why it likely broke down. She didn't seem comfortable with the level of attention, and, well, I doubt it was any better online given how absolutely nosy a lot of wrestling fans can be about the private lives of wrestlers. Renee Paquette has talked before about how some of the Shield fangirls hated her guts when she and Moxley were revealed to be a couple. Given the breakup happened significantly before anyone heard about it, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if this just wasn't what she signed on for. She by all accounts was hugely supportive of his dream, but there's an enormous difference between "indie wrestler journeyman" and "dude on a hugely popular TV show" in terms of scrutiny and privacy loss. A lot of people can't live that life.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 9:19:29 GMT -5
I've been trying to think of who Sammy reminds me of these days. Then it hit me. The spot-heavy style, the mediocre promo skills, the fact that he's a total wife guy on social media...he's Cuban Will Ospreay.
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Post by Fade on Apr 17, 2022 9:51:00 GMT -5
I've been trying to think of who Sammy reminds me of these days. Then it hit me. The spot-heavy style, the mediocre promo skills, the fact that he's a total wife guy on social media...he's Cuban Will Ospreay. LMAO that is spot-fricken-on and now I can’t unsee it 😂
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Post by Texas Tornado on Apr 17, 2022 9:55:08 GMT -5
We have to remake this image every time they kiss, inserting in the image of the new kiss. I don’t think the internet has enough bandwidth for that
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Apr 17, 2022 10:33:00 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels.I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I think part of all of this is the fact that the first time we saw Sammy involved with a woman on AEW TV was him proposing to his longtime girlfriend on an episode of Dynamite last year (or two years ago, I don’t even remember when it was). So now, not much later, we see Sammy and Tay as a couple and people might see him as a cheater and her a homewrecker. Now we obviously don’t know how that original relationship fell apart and how the new one started, but people are going to make assumptions, likely unfair ones, based on perception alone.
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Post by Mecca on Apr 17, 2022 10:37:11 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels.I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I think part of all of this is the fact that the first time we saw Sammy involved with a woman on AEW TV was him proposing to his longtime girlfriend on an episode of Dynamite last year (or two years ago, I don’t even remember when it was). So now, not much later, we see Sammy and Tay as a couple and people might see him as a cheater and her a homewrecker. Now we obviously don’t know how that original relationship fell apart and how the new one started, but people are going to make assumptions, likely unfair ones, based on perception alone. Maybe if they read the jobbernation Twitter...
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 17, 2022 11:10:44 GMT -5
Sammy just works so much better as a heel. It wouldn't take much to adjust his move set to be more heelish either, he just needs to tease the big spots but not deliver on them (save them for the PPV)
I don't mind Lambert as long as he doesn't lean on Attitude-era sexism in his promos. There's definitely a place in wrestling for an old school manager, just keep away from the slut shaming.
MOTY are a good act and I'd like to see them given a run as fired-up babyfaces. Whether it's as solo wrestlers or even a tag team, I think there's something there and they should be used more. I'm not sure about PVZ though because I don't know enough about her. She's done well with a heel presentation, so it'd be interesting to see if she can be likeable against a heel Tay.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Apr 17, 2022 11:13:09 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels.I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I think part of all of this is the fact that the first time we saw Sammy involved with a woman on AEW TV was him proposing to his longtime girlfriend on an episode of Dynamite last year (or two years ago, I don’t even remember when it was). So now, not much later, we see Sammy and Tay as a couple and people might see him as a cheater and her a homewrecker. Now we obviously don’t know how that original relationship fell apart and how the new one started, but people are going to make assumptions, likely unfair ones, based on perception alone. I guess I get that. For me, relationships are none of my business and I'm not going to assume anything unless there's strong evidence. As much as it could have been a cheating thing, it could equally be they had issues none of us knew about and broke up mutually. And honestly, I don't really care what it is unless laws were broken or there was abuse involved. None of my business. But again, that's just me and how I'm built. I don't blame people for wanting to boo them, I get if they're too in your face about stuff or if they got together a little too close to when he and his ex broke up.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 17, 2022 11:20:33 GMT -5
Man, I still really don't get the vitriol people have for Sammy and Tay. Nothing they do bothers me in the slightest. Guess I've never been that person who gets annoyed at overly romantic antics. They just come across as cocky faces paying back heels. I do think though that they really need to distance Sammy from the TNT title. Wouldn't mind a Darby run, or anyone really. 6 championship reigns have been between two people so far. Not great. I mean I have nothing against them personally. I think it comes down to: Envy/jealousy. You see it in sports outside of wrestling as well. “Attractive successful people in love and open about it” many fans resent it. Some fans assuming that they know all the details of how these two got together (which no they don’t). So despite Tay in particular being adamant against it, there’s this “oh you cheated on Pam with her” backlash with Sammy, and Tay is the “homewrecker.” There’s some gate keeping going on there. Fans have been conditioned to see “power couples” as more of a heel act. Etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 11:27:10 GMT -5
Tay hasn't done anything to bother me, but Sammy's been so lame for me for a couple months now that it just started rubbing off on her.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 17, 2022 11:33:04 GMT -5
If you don’t think Sammy is a good face, that’s cool
It’s people hating on him and Tay BECAUSE they’re together that we’re talking about.
Also I hope AEW addresses the TayJay thing during this in some way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 12:20:47 GMT -5
Whatever it takes to get Tay Conti onto next level (and eventually become the champion) ~ This heel turn might be it!
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Post by markymark on Apr 17, 2022 12:35:15 GMT -5
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 17, 2022 13:23:22 GMT -5
People who hate on face Sammy must be high. I love him as a face (and not just because he has a nice ass) and he comes off as super likable. It is his face booking that bites the big one.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 17, 2022 13:25:23 GMT -5
Tay hasn't done anything to bother me, but Sammy's been so lame for me for a couple months now that it just started rubbing off on her. PHRASING
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 17, 2022 13:52:54 GMT -5
I'd be okay with SSPs not being done to standing opponents or other people after that.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Apr 17, 2022 14:03:44 GMT -5
I'd be okay with SSPs not being done to standing opponents or other people after that. The Jesse Sorenson accident made me super weary of spots like that but thankfully they've never gone that wrong ever again as far as I know.
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Post by neilc on Apr 17, 2022 15:28:09 GMT -5
Whatever it takes to get Tay Conti onto next level (and eventually become the champion) ~ This heel turn might be it! I thought she was on her way to becoming a top babyface before all this stuff. She was friends with Anna Jay and -1 and the crowds seemed to dig her. But someone decided, "Let's carry over this internet stuff to TV" and I think they messed up that push for no good reason. And this whole "Hate Us" stuff is just plain annoying. The only reason I do is because you act like spoiled brats on Instagram. If you just posted pictures doing normal things, I'd think, "Good for them."
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 17, 2022 15:35:44 GMT -5
I would like to know who’s idea this was? Because yeah it has derailed Tay’s babyface momentum hard.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Apr 17, 2022 16:17:26 GMT -5
Said something similar to this before but people hate annoying douchebags who think they’re the only people to be in a relationship especially ones who say respect our privacy then put their relationship all over the internet and TV.
I blocked Sammy & Tay because they kept on showing up on my Twitter and now I’m getting it on my tv lol.
Anyone who enjoys the act as a face or heel, I totally respect it but for me anyway, it’s not I’ll pay money to watch him get beat, it’s “I’m changing the channel until the next thing is on”
Also I’m hoping it doesn’t mean MotY get booted to the side. I’ve quite enjoyed their stuff the last couple of months
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