Mexicools definitely should've been a bigger act

[The Rick Jericho]

Juventud. Psychosis. Super Crazy.

3 guys who definitely would've improved the crusierweight division. They were big names from WCW/ECW. People always wondered how Juvy would do in an WWE environment.

If you took away the lawn mowers and they just came in as a bad ass wrestling group trying to take over the division. Could they have been bigger deals?

It's a shame because I wanted to eventually see a Juvy/Rock showdown just so he can get put over a bit.

[Feyrhausen]

In another company sure. But in Vinces company they couldnt cut promos to his standard, they had accents, etc. They could get over on ringwork but that only gets you so far with him. They did as well as they were ever going to.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Probably

BUT you can never trust Juvi

[fw91]

Aug 7, 2022 18:19:49 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Probably

BUT you can never trust Juvi

yeah wasn't he gone fairly quickly due to some attitude problems?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 7, 2022 18:59:23 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Aug 7, 2022 18:19:49 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Probably

BUT you can never trust Juvi

yeah wasn't he gone fairly quickly due to some attitude problems?

Want to say he didn't last a full year. Debuted early 2005 if I remember correctly and was out the door by the end of the year or very early of next year. 

Attitude problems and doing stupid shit. I think the final straw was he did a move on TV which they banned after he botched it before and injured someone badly 

[tirtefaa]

Who knew that the guy named "Super Crazy" was the most collected one of the bunch.

[ChitownKnight]

Didn’t psychosis also steal a car?

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I think the question 'would the Mexican wrestlers or indeed any wrestlers be more over if not made to ride a literal lawnmower to the ring' kind of answers itself

Juvi was never getting anywhere in WWE with that attitude though

[kingoftheindies]

Listening to shoots from guys in WWE around the time, Vince only cared about Juvy cause of his popularity in WCW against Jericho and Rey but was a major pain in the ass. They never cared for Psicosis but eventually did like Super Crazy but he came into WWE out of shape

[Futureraven: Beelzebruv]

Note the word "cruiserweight" even without the racism there's your issue.

[EvenBaldobombHasAJob]

Psychosis and Super Crazy, sure. Juvi really held them back by being Juvi, and by the time he was gone interest had dried up.

[Hypnosis]

Aug 8, 2022 6:28:21 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Listening to shoots from guys in WWE around the time, Vince only cared about Juvy cause of his popularity in WCW against Jericho and Rey but was a major pain in the ass. They never cared for Psicosis but eventually did like Super Crazy but he came into WWE out of shape

Psicosis also looks better with a mask than without.

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Aug 8, 2022 7:47:12 GMT -5 Futureraven: Beelzebruv said:

Note the word "cruiserweight" even without the racism there's your issue.

Yeah, for that reason alone, none of these three was going to do better than they did.

[Psicofreak667]

Psicosis had been unused for over half a year when the carjacking incident happened. He jacked the car from a friend of his at gunpoint* and ended up crashing it while fleeing the police. When he was arrested it turned out that the gun he used was a realistic looking water pistol instead of a real gun. He was fired when news got back to WWE.

AFAIK he wasn't known for being a behavior problem before or since, and I've always sort of assumed it was a breakdown from seeing his dream of making it in WWE fall apart in such a miserable way. And also AFAIK nobody north of the border has tried to bring him in since it happened.

He also saved a friend who was trapped in a sinking car, risking his life in the process, by tearing the seatbelt apart then swimming him back to shore.

[Celexa Bliss 54]

I remember when they were actually pushing Super Crazy in the IC picture for about a month. I got really excited, only for him to be in a jobber tag team with Jim Duggan by the end of that year

[Marvelous1LUFC]

Hey, at least they were referenced at summerslam 2022

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Aug 7, 2022 18:59:23 GMT -5 fw91 said:

Aug 7, 2022 18:19:49 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Probably

BUT you can never trust Juvi

yeah wasn't he gone fairly quickly due to some attitude problems?

Wasn't he so disliked he was driving with Bob Orton who doesn't seem like he'd be popular either.

[MolotovMocktail]

Aug 8, 2022 22:43:51 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

Aug 7, 2022 18:59:23 GMT -5 fw91 said:

yeah wasn't he gone fairly quickly due to some attitude problems?

Wasn't he so disliked he was driving with Bob Orton who doesn't seem like he'd be popular either.

Yeah, even Psicosis and Super Crazy didn't want anything to do with him, and Cowboy Bob - who nobody liked either - was the only guy willing to travel with him.

[Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite]

Aug 7, 2022 19:48:38 GMT -5 ChitownKnight said:

Didn’t psychosis also steal a car?

Yeah, I heard he plead Insanity in court

[XaviersSS2015hair]

Aug 8, 2022 22:43:51 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

Aug 7, 2022 18:59:23 GMT -5 fw91 said:

yeah wasn't he gone fairly quickly due to some attitude problems?

Wasn't he so disliked he was driving with Bob Orton who doesn't seem like he'd be popular either.

Never heard this story but it makes me wish WWE Ride Along was a show that existed in 2005 because those had to be some awkward car rides 😂

What's the story with Orton being unlikable? I've never heard this before. Bob and Randy were an on screen duo at the time. His own son didn't want to ride with him?