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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 23, 2022 11:54:53 GMT -5
The Truth Commission, I couldn't change the channel fast enough when these guys came on the screen. How about like half-3/4ths the Gang Warz? And that's probably being generous. (Rock got over, DOA's bikes were over....what else?)
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 23, 2022 11:58:28 GMT -5
The Truth Commission, I couldn't change the channel fast enough when these guys came on the screen. How about like half-3/4ths the Gang Warz? And that's probably being generous. (Rock got over, DOA's bikes were over....what else?) And Vince kept bringing the Harris brothers back and as DOA it seemed like they were there an eternity and were still never over. Bull Buchanan had to be a JR hoss hire signed to some insane contract being there from 1997 to what seemed like 8 years later. The Boricaus could pretty entertaining when it was all four interfering in a match. I loved when Miguel pretended to be hurt and JR screamed "There's nothing wrong with MEE-GAIL!"
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Post by Ozman on Nov 23, 2022 12:22:35 GMT -5
Lo Down, both with or without Tiger Ali Singh never got a reaction.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 23, 2022 16:00:24 GMT -5
Not over might be a bit much, but Debra was definitely the most popular thing about the Jarrett/Owen tag team.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 23, 2022 16:07:56 GMT -5
Not over might be a bit much, but Debra was definitely the most popular thing about the Jarrett/Owen tag team. Yeah, in 1999 Jeff Jarrett's music hitting would get bigger pops than anyone on weekly TV today and it sure wasn't for Jarrett. The same thing happened with Marc Mero in late 97/early 98. His music would get a massive pop because people knew Sable was coming out.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Nov 23, 2022 16:12:10 GMT -5
Debra and Sable should both be Hall Of Famers for how over they were at the time. I feel like Lesnar keeps Sable chained up in the basement or something.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 23, 2022 16:12:36 GMT -5
To add to this thread, Jeff Jarrett comes to mind. At least until he got a haircut and ditched the Country Singer gimmick. Even then, it mostly came from his association with Debra and a maybe Owen Hart as well. He wasn't over on his own until the spring/summer of 99 after Owen Hart died and became IC champ three more times. His misogynistic character and feud with Chyna really amped up his heel character. Someone mentioned Mero before, well, Slapnuts was kind of like that. Mostly over for either being accompanied by or feuding with women. Jarrett's deal of beating up women before he left just came off as so desperate that it was sad. Like "What can we do to finally get this guy over as a heel?" "I know we'll have him beat up women bro and have him hit them with his guitar and put them in the figure four. People will have to boo that." www.youtube.com/watch?v=40fYy_WRDLsNot going to lie though it was pretty funny just with how ridiculous and over the top it was with Jeff Jarrett beating up elderly women. Jarrett to his credit really nailed it with stuff like in this clip with him needlessly stomping Mae Young in the leg a few times before putting the figure four on her. Just so unnecessary lol.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Nov 23, 2022 17:27:38 GMT -5
Just Joe
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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 23, 2022 18:46:26 GMT -5
Not over might be a bit much, but Debra was definitely the most popular thing about the Jarrett/Owen tag team. You can also say Owen Hart's Blue Blazer storyline played a role, before the ending changed how we know it of course. But yeah, Jarrett pretty much struggled on his own. If "Stone Cold" was down with feuding with him(which would mean Jarrett would have to stay), I can see that helping him a bit.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Nov 23, 2022 19:27:41 GMT -5
Lo Down, both with or without Tiger Ali Singh never got a reaction. They were over with me, dammit. One of the highlights of Sunday Night (afternoon, in my case) Heat.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Nov 24, 2022 14:15:00 GMT -5
Not over might be a bit much, but Debra was definitely the most popular thing about the Jarrett/Owen tag team. You can also say Owen Hart's Blue Blazer storyline played a role, before the ending changed how we know it of course. But yeah, Jarrett pretty much struggled on his own. If "Stone Cold" was down with feuding with him(which would mean Jarrett would have to stay), I can see that helping him a bit. Austin personally heavily disliked Jarrett because he was breaking in, his dad paid him basically nothing at all in Memphis while Jeff was the big star because the booker was his daddy.
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Post by fortknox on Nov 24, 2022 16:22:18 GMT -5
You can also say Owen Hart's Blue Blazer storyline played a role, before the ending changed how we know it of course. But yeah, Jarrett pretty much struggled on his own. If "Stone Cold" was down with feuding with him(which would mean Jarrett would have to stay), I can see that helping him a bit. Austin personally heavily disliked Jarrett because he was breaking in, his dad paid him basically nothing at all in Memphis while Jeff was the big star because the booker was his daddy. I don't remember ever hearing of anyone getting good paydays in Memphis unless your name was Lawler or Jarrett.
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Post by karl100589 on Nov 24, 2022 16:24:21 GMT -5
Lo Down, both with or without Tiger Ali Singh never got a reaction. They were over with me, dammit. One of the highlights of Sunday Night (afternoon, in my case) Heat. They were a solid midcard team in their early run, but turning them heel and being paired with Tiger ruined all their momentum.
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Post by 06vwgti on Nov 24, 2022 16:32:27 GMT -5
I don't think Luna Vachon was over except maybe during her feud with Sable, and that's only because the fans wanted to see Sable mop the floor with her, so over by association at best. Viscera wasn't over until far after the Attitude Era, with his "Worlds Largest Love Machine" gimmick. I'd add jacqueline post Sable feud too, if she wasn't doing an intergender match or in Texas, she didn't seem over. Not sure what happened because her USWA, WCW and TNA run were all fun and great, but her wwe run was very lackluster.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 24, 2022 16:41:14 GMT -5
Flash Funk/Scorpio.
He didn't last long in it, they used both names, gave him about 20 different tag partners, put him in the JOB Squad, who were all over at least in a "loveable loser" kind of way.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 24, 2022 16:48:05 GMT -5
Austin personally heavily disliked Jarrett because he was breaking in, his dad paid him basically nothing at all in Memphis while Jeff was the big star because the booker was his daddy. I don't remember ever hearing of anyone getting good paydays in Memphis unless your name was Lawler or Jarrett. Goes beyond that though, Jarrett had to rub it in. Story goes Austin was in the locker room looking at his pathetic pay. Jarrett walked by and said "Staring at it aint gonna make it bigger" and laughed. So if Austin held a grudge against that little daddies boy for that I dont blame him.
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Post by nakedmideon on Nov 24, 2022 17:27:41 GMT -5
Big Bossman was the absolute worst in this Era.his fueds were terrible and every match he was in got boring chants
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Nov 24, 2022 18:42:11 GMT -5
Big Bossman was the absolute worst in this Era.his fueds were terrible and every match he was in got boring chants The only Bossman matches I like from this time are against Al Snow at Fully Loaded and Summerslam. They were entertaining enough, but really it was Al Snow and the wacky nature of hardcore matches at that time that made them worth watching. Anyone could have been in Bossman's place for those. It's unfortunate as the original Big Bossman run was great, and the character was effective, heel or face.
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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 24, 2022 18:48:22 GMT -5
Looks like going by my estimate, looks like more than 5% of the roster wasn't over. I'll say about 15% I don't recall Tori being over, was she?
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Post by nakedmideon on Nov 24, 2022 20:32:43 GMT -5
Big Bossman was the absolute worst in this Era.his fueds were terrible and every match he was in got boring chants The only Bossman matches I like from this time are against Al Snow at Fully Loaded and Summerslam. They were entertaining enough, but really it was Al Snow and the wacky nature of hardcore matches at that time that made them worth watching. Anyone could have been in Bossman's place for those. It's unfortunate as the original Big Bossman run was great, and the character was effective, heel or face. Yeah i wanted to like the Bossman as his original run was great but there was something just very off in his 2nd run.maybe it was just the wrong era for him by the time he came back
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