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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 31, 2022 18:08:23 GMT -5
I always go back in my head about how Kross wanted a six-figure deal and TNA offered him a deal they claimed to the dirtsheets was a six figure deal because if you added up the amounts they'd pay him over three years, it would be six figures. And then overall had the tone of their response be 'We gave him what he want and he's just being difficult". Just absolute bad faith shitshow clown smear jobs. It feels like there's people in charge of the company who keep trying to get away with really insane stuff until they get yanked back by bad PR and reality, and every few years they peek back out with more garbage to try and get away with again. And they tried to frame it like he was escalating in money. Like the first two years was 25 and then he get a WHOOPING 50K!!!! in his last year. The nerve to act like well we offered him 6 figured, the f*** you did. Shit like that is garbage. Last I remember their top top people was getting paid 100k or more which is still low but more than doable for the size of Impact. They need to clean shit like this up It's also just a real good sense of how much of a f***ing joke they make of things that someone says 'I'm not making enough to survive off of here' and their counterpoint isn't only something they know isn't what they're being asked for, but is also 25k in its first year when talent are in charge of all their travel and accomodation. Just indefensible garbage moves there, it's one of the big things that keeps me from actually supporting them, because I don't think they've turned nearly as much of a new leaf as they like to claim. Still rmeember them deleting the GFW masters, too, and there's literally no way that wasn't malice.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2022 18:10:16 GMT -5
I always go back in my head about how Kross wanted a six-figure deal and TNA offered him a deal they claimed to the dirtsheets was a six figure deal because if you added up the amounts they'd pay him over three years, it would be six figures. And then overall had the tone of their response be 'We gave him what he want and he's just being difficult". Just absolute bad faith shitshow clown smear jobs. It feels like there's people in charge of the company who keep trying to get away with really insane stuff until they get yanked back by bad PR and reality, and every few years they peek back out with more garbage to try and get away with again. And they tried to frame it like he was escalating in money. Like the first two years was 25 and then he get a WHOOPING 50K!!!! in his last year. The nerve to act like well we offered him 6 figured, the f*** you did. Shit like that is garbage. Last I remember their top top people was getting paid 100k or more which is still low but more than doable for the size of Impact. They need to clean shit like this up I'm sure things are much better than they were*, but that doesn't mean there's still not a lot of stuff they could improve on, and keeping people you will never use is never the ethical or intelligent course of action. *- For instance, Eric Young and Robert Roode, unsure with James Storm, said that TNA had owed them thousands of dollars when they got to NXT, and that you can only be so loyal when you have a family to think about. We've heard about shit like this, but I haven't heard of them straight up not paying someone for a performance. Yet, anyway.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 31, 2022 18:12:57 GMT -5
And they tried to frame it like he was escalating in money. Like the first two years was 25 and then he get a WHOOPING 50K!!!! in his last year. The nerve to act like well we offered him 6 figured, the f*** you did. Shit like that is garbage. Last I remember their top top people was getting paid 100k or more which is still low but more than doable for the size of Impact. They need to clean shit like this up I'm sure things are much better than they were*, but that doesn't mean there's still not a lot of stuff they could improve on, and keeping people you will never use is never the ethical or intelligent course of action. *- For instance, Eric Young and Robert Roode, unsure with James Storm, said that TNA had owed them thousands of dollars when they got to NXT, and that you can only be so loyal when you have a family to think about. We've heard about shit like this, but I haven't heard of them straight up not paying someone for a performance. Yet, anyway. Mild nitpick but it wasn't 'thousands', it was tens of thousands. Each. A reported 'combined six figures' between the two men. So it sounds like they've traded in being unable to honour big contracts for paying people poverty wages and having them lose money working for them.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 18:20:24 GMT -5
And they tried to frame it like he was escalating in money. Like the first two years was 25 and then he get a WHOOPING 50K!!!! in his last year. The nerve to act like well we offered him 6 figured, the f*** you did. Shit like that is garbage. Last I remember their top top people was getting paid 100k or more which is still low but more than doable for the size of Impact. They need to clean shit like this up I'm sure things are much better than they were*, but that doesn't mean there's still not a lot of stuff they could improve on, and keeping people you will never use is never the ethical or intelligent course of action. *- For instance, Eric Young and Robert Roode, unsure with James Storm, said that TNA had owed them thousands of dollars when they got to NXT, and that you can only be so loyal when you have a family to think about. We've heard about shit like this, but I haven't heard of them straight up not paying someone for a performance. Yet, anyway. From what I remember they owed them a good sum of money and Roode/EY basically told them release us and you can keep that shit. Of course they ended up turning around and singing James Storm for good money
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 18:22:06 GMT -5
And they tried to frame it like he was escalating in money. Like the first two years was 25 and then he get a WHOOPING 50K!!!! in his last year. The nerve to act like well we offered him 6 figured, the f*** you did. Shit like that is garbage. Last I remember their top top people was getting paid 100k or more which is still low but more than doable for the size of Impact. They need to clean shit like this up It's also just a real good sense of how much of a f***ing joke they make of things that someone says 'I'm not making enough to survive off of here' and their counterpoint isn't only something they know isn't what they're being asked for, but is also 25k in its first year when talent are in charge of all their travel and accomodation. Just indefensible garbage moves there, it's one of the big things that keeps me from actually supporting them, because I don't think they've turned nearly as much of a new leaf as they like to claim. Still rmeember them deleting the GFW masters, too, and there's literally no way that wasn't malice. 25k is hot garbage even if you were living in Florida much less having to travel. Like they will make more money on the indies but as an Accountant I go OOF because the wrestlers are traveling and they go up the ass in taxes from the spots they were in sans Florida where there is no state income tax
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2022 18:48:33 GMT -5
It's also just a real good sense of how much of a f***ing joke they make of things that someone says 'I'm not making enough to survive off of here' and their counterpoint isn't only something they know isn't what they're being asked for, but is also 25k in its first year when talent are in charge of all their travel and accomodation. Just indefensible garbage moves there, it's one of the big things that keeps me from actually supporting them, because I don't think they've turned nearly as much of a new leaf as they like to claim. Still rmeember them deleting the GFW masters, too, and there's literally no way that wasn't malice. 25k is hot garbage even if you were living in Florida much less having to travel. Like they will make more money on the indies but as an Accountant I go OOF because the wrestlers are traveling and they go up the ass in taxes from the spots they were in sans Florida where there is no state income tax Yeah, like the idea is that if you're in Impact, you can also work the indies and do other side-hustles. The downside is that you must also work the indies and do other side-hustles.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 20:49:20 GMT -5
25k is hot garbage even if you were living in Florida much less having to travel. Like they will make more money on the indies but as an Accountant I go OOF because the wrestlers are traveling and they go up the ass in taxes from the spots they were in sans Florida where there is no state income tax Yeah, like the idea is that if you're in Impact, you can also work the indies and do other side-hustles. The downside is that you must also work the indies and do other side-hustles. Yeah, like if you are mapping your exposure steps it would be NWA and Impact as far as getting TV time and exposure but you don't really stay there. Of course it applies differently for people. Someone like Moose is thriving there and most likely in the top 1% in regards to salary. He doesn't have to work indies or worry about his check but if you new it is good for exposure
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2022 20:56:07 GMT -5
Yeah, like the idea is that if you're in Impact, you can also work the indies and do other side-hustles. The downside is that you must also work the indies and do other side-hustles. Yeah, like if you are mapping your exposure steps it would be NWA and Impact as far as getting TV time and exposure but you don't really stay there. Of course it applies differently for people. Someone like Moose is thriving there and most likely in the top 1% in regards to salary. He doesn't have to work indies or worry about his check but if you new it is good for exposure Right, like some guys like Ace Austin have gotten a lot more eyes on them and will probably make bank in NJPW, or you have guys like Santana and Ortiz who got into AEW probably based largely on their Impact work. Stuff like that and relatively short contracts are enticing to people raising their profile without worrying about getting trapped like some MLW have been, but shit like this with Lady Frost has got to be really alarming.
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Aug 31, 2022 21:01:09 GMT -5
Honestly been wondering if something was up with IMPACT because of how many notable ppl have just casually not stuck around even tho they had a pretty good run.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2022 21:09:55 GMT -5
Honestly been wondering if something was up with IMPACT because of how many notable ppl have just casually not stuck around even tho they had a pretty good run. I know some of the time, like Willie Mack, I think they just were willing to let him go because they want to be strategic with their hires and to keep the roster fresh, and would have probably insulted him if they lowballed him. Some people, though, I have to wonder.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 21:09:59 GMT -5
Honestly been wondering if something was up with IMPACT because of how many notable ppl have just casually not stuck around even tho they had a pretty good run. Tho it is not really surprising Impact is better for young wrestlers trying get some exposure and higher named wrestlers trying to rehab their image. Tho stories like this is going to make it hard to replace talent Tho in the last few months they have lost Good Bros (addition by subtraction imo), Briscoes, Morrissey, Willie Mack, Tenille Dashwood, and I fill like I am missing a name or two that have left just over last 6-8 weeks
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Aug 31, 2022 21:20:38 GMT -5
Lady Frost @ IMPACT
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Aug 31, 2022 21:26:15 GMT -5
They're denying her release and are sitting on her contract without paying her. The more TNA changes, the more they stay the same.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 31, 2022 21:29:54 GMT -5
This is so old school TNA, I'm surprised they haven't suggested she work at Sunglasses Hut on top of it.
Impact has done a lot of good in rehabbing its reputation from the LOLTNA days and even the more recent Killer Kross/Scarlet debacle. Being this petty with Lady Frost is going to completely undo any good will they built up over the last couple of years. It's bullshit. Just let her go. You're not even paying her you assholes.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 31, 2022 21:41:09 GMT -5
Really frustrating that Impact's gone back to their old ways with this Lady Frost situation.
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Aug 31, 2022 21:49:49 GMT -5
They're denying her release and are sitting on her contract without paying her. The more TNA changes, the more they stay the same. Seriously I was trying to remember if TNA even did *this* specifically to someone back in the day and then it hit me that this is almost exactly what happened with R-Truth in 07. If you ever wanna be super depressed about how badly a company could treat someone that's been around since day 1, search up Truth's email to management from that time period that got posted online like 6 or 7 years ago. It's f***ing horrible.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:37 GMT -5
They're denying her release and are sitting on her contract without paying her. The more TNA changes, the more they stay the same. Seriously I was trying to remember if TNA even did *this* specifically to someone back in the day and then it hit me that this is almost exactly what happened with R-Truth in 07. If you ever wanna be super depressed about how badly a company could treat someone that's been around since day 1, search up Truth's email to management from that time period that got posted online like 6 or 7 years ago. It's f***ing horrible. Never knew Truth had trouble getting out his contract with them
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 31, 2022 23:42:37 GMT -5
But did they resign Bram?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 31, 2022 23:57:58 GMT -5
But did they resign Bram? He still got 40 years left from his previous contracts
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 1, 2022 11:20:02 GMT -5
25k is hot garbage even if you were living in Florida much less having to travel. Like they will make more money on the indies but as an Accountant I go OOF because the wrestlers are traveling and they go up the ass in taxes from the spots they were in sans Florida where there is no state income tax Yeah, like the idea is that if you're in Impact, you can also work the indies and do other side-hustles. The downside is that you must also work the indies and do other side-hustles. My local indie over the past 3 years has used a pile of IMpact talent,Ace Austin Cody Deaner Kaleb with a K and soon Matt Taven. Talked to each and all of them loved how Impact was very hands off. "I know that once a month I do 2 days of tapings with Impact and I got the rest of the month to do whatever I want." Sucks to hear this about Lady Frost. BIW is wanting to book her,heard her booking fee and it is way lower than I figured.
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