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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 1, 2022 20:01:23 GMT -5
You can make Theseus's Ship out of TNA, and it's still TNA.
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Post by Derk! on Sept 1, 2022 20:07:27 GMT -5
If she's on a "pay per appearance" deal, just grant her the release. It's not rocket science.
Pretty scummy of Impact to do that.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 2, 2022 1:32:35 GMT -5
In the Kross situation, he certainly didn't handle himself the best but Impact kept him on well after they'd already made their point. They basically just kept him in a position of being unable to do anything or make any money for months on end entirely out of spite.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 2, 2022 4:43:09 GMT -5
How's that? Was there any part of the deal Kross signed that they didn't honor? Because everything I've ever heard is that Kross heard through the grapevine WWE would've paid him more, so he decided either Impact needed to ante up, or they should let him go. That isn't how it works. If you think you're worth more, don't sign the deal. And i've said before, Kross was wrong for airing out the dirty laundry in public BUT Impact did a fine enough job making an ass of themselves. All they had to do was tell him to show up to work and if he refused he looks like a giant asshole. But no, they decided to be petty and release his girl but not him, not allow him to make money elsewhere and even then shit on his merch so he couldn't make money off that There was no point in making a point. They just made themselves look petty and little by trying to say that want to give him more money and it was a meager deal that only had like 25k a piece for two years. They have two legit options, release him or make him come to work. They did neither. He was an ass and they made themselves look even dumber. There is no defending the pettyness of letting Scarlett walk but making him stay How do you suggest making someone who has decided he doesn't want to honour his contract come to work? They could sue him for breach of contract, I guess, but people would be complaining just as much about that. |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 2, 2022 5:00:01 GMT -5
Impact is looking real shitty right now. I mean its one thing to say honor the contract. But when you as a company decide to not use her or any said talent and not have plans for the talent, Than why hold someone against there will? That what seems to be Forst's case. That she willing to work, she wanst something to do now. Thats on Impact and there creative to come up with ideas. If some requesting a release because you won't use them and isn't paying them because of the contract. So that said person is legit starving because she signed a deal in good faith that she was going to be used.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 2, 2022 11:12:46 GMT -5
And i've said before, Kross was wrong for airing out the dirty laundry in public BUT Impact did a fine enough job making an ass of themselves. All they had to do was tell him to show up to work and if he refused he looks like a giant asshole. But no, they decided to be petty and release his girl but not him, not allow him to make money elsewhere and even then shit on his merch so he couldn't make money off that There was no point in making a point. They just made themselves look petty and little by trying to say that want to give him more money and it was a meager deal that only had like 25k a piece for two years. They have two legit options, release him or make him come to work. They did neither. He was an ass and they made themselves look even dumber. There is no defending the pettyness of letting Scarlett walk but making him stay How do you suggest making someone who has decided he doesn't want to honour his contract come to work? They could sue him for breach of contract, I guess, but people would be complaining just as much about that. You actually book him. Because they didn't do that. They took him off TV. If they told him "Don't care, come to work" and he no-showed, that'd be a lot more in their favour than the junk they did pull on him in trying to get people on their side. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Sept 2, 2022 13:12:57 GMT -5
How do you suggest making someone who has decided he doesn't want to honour his contract come to work? They could sue him for breach of contract, I guess, but people would be complaining just as much about that. You actually book him. Because they didn't do that. They took him off TV. If they told him "Don't care, come to work" and he no-showed, that'd be a lot more in their favour than the junk they did pull on him in trying to get people on their side. So your solution to this issue is that Impact needed to continue booking a resentful, unhappy worker or they needed to let him go? What if he'd shown up but half assed the matches, tried to get mic time to bury the company, etc? If you were one of Impact's other talent, would you want to work with someone who'd already made it clear they were planning to jump ship ASAP? |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 2, 2022 13:14:59 GMT -5
You actually book him. Because they didn't do that. They took him off TV. If they told him "Don't care, come to work" and he no-showed, that'd be a lot more in their favour than the junk they did pull on him in trying to get people on their side. So your solution to this issue is that Impact needed to continue booking a resentful, unhappy worker or they needed to let him go? What if he'd shown up but half assed the matches, tried to get mic time to bury the company, etc? If you were one of Impact's other talent, would you want to work with someone who'd already made it clear they were planning to jump ship ASAP? I'm not saying they should have done it. My stance has always been 'let him go'. But the company clearly cared about making sure everyone got their side of the story and believing they were the good guys, and it would have been more constructive to do that and let him dig his own grave than what they actually did. I'm talking about accomplishing their goal of making him look bad here. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 2, 2022 23:21:02 GMT -5
So your solution to this issue is that Impact needed to continue booking a resentful, unhappy worker or they needed to let him go? What if he'd shown up but half assed the matches, tried to get mic time to bury the company, etc? If you were one of Impact's other talent, would you want to work with someone who'd already made it clear they were planning to jump ship ASAP? I'm not saying they should have done it. My stance has always been 'let him go'. But the company clearly cared about making sure everyone got their side of the story and believing they were the good guys, and it would have been more constructive to do that and let him dig his own grave than what they actually did. I'm talking about accomplishing their goal of making him look bad here. Right. It's like how studios will offer an actor parts they know the actor won't want, or how WWE would pitch mediocre or bad angles to someone, in order to get the person to refuse them, and thus, mark them as the unreasonable party. You sometimes get someone like Mark Henry who would just grin and bear it, anyway, and keep collecting the check, but it's also a tried and true PR device to look like the good guy in all of it. It doesn't always work, granted. Like, to this day, I'm sure Jim Herd didn't actually expect Ric Flair to shave his head and work a gladiator gimmick, and was just antagonizing him on purpose with pitches like that. That one just kind of blew up and made Herd look like an idiot, along with when he refused to honor Flair's safety deposit and Flair left with physical possession of the title belt. |
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Post by markymark on Sept 6, 2022 21:48:43 GMT -5
Then Impact should let her go.....
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 7, 2022 0:08:18 GMT -5
If she agreed to do that then yeah this whole report is the exact same playbook they pulled out with Kross before. Baffling playbook to run with someone they don't seem to care that much about in the first palce.
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Sept 7, 2022 0:13:32 GMT -5
It's one thing to bench someone that you don't care about and not let them go until their contract is up, but to do that while they're on a pay-per-appearance deal (meaning she's earning nothing) with *years* left on their contract? What the f*** dude
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 7, 2022 0:52:39 GMT -5
Let her go. Just like with Kross, if she was an asshole you have flipped the script by trying to make a point that didn't need to be made
You not using her and have no plan to. I can understand jobbing her left and right at least should would get paid but this is just being petty
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Post by markymark on Sept 10, 2022 15:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Sept 10, 2022 15:55:04 GMT -5
Giving Frost the cold shoulder, eh?
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Post by Cyno on Sept 10, 2022 16:01:37 GMT -5
It'd be one thing if they still had plans to use her or she was on a guaranteed contract. Hell, even when WWE kept people in catering or home, they still got paid. Holding someone's career hostage over a PPA contract is just petty.
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Post by chrom on Sept 14, 2022 21:21:11 GMT -5
Apparently got her release, as she's now gonna be wrestling in The Women's Gran Prix in CMLL in October.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 14, 2022 22:38:59 GMT -5
I feel so bad for Lady Frost man
They packed up their life tp Philly to work CHIKARA and completely reinvented her gimmick with her husband, only for that to essentially, crumble around them in the span of like a month
And now this is happening to her. Poor woman doesn't deserve being constantly shackled with shitty promoters. Hope they granted her release because that was just dumb.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 14, 2022 22:41:18 GMT -5
Who's Lady Frost's husband?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 14, 2022 22:44:31 GMT -5
Who's Lady Frost's husband? Victor Benjamin Worked IWC, same place Wardlow and Britt came from, and also works Indies with Frost as Pretty Proper as "The Savage Gentleman" Victor Benjamin In CHIKARA, they were The Red Queen and One Eyed Jack, and they had pretty elaborate gear made only for them to wrestle like... two matches in it. Sucks because his Mask was one of the more innovative mask designs I've seen in a hot minute  Their match is also still up to view, their finisher was awesome |
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