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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 6, 2022 19:45:59 GMT -5
Jim Cornette Outside of being a talking head on some Network stuff the WWE don't seem to want much to do with him. With AEW that bridge was burnt before they had even run a show. He also probably just doesn't have any interest in anything fulltime, anyway. In the past, he could be chummy even with people he disliked to get jobs, but given his podcast, it's probably worth more to his bottom line for him to appear credible to his fanbase than to play nice for a job.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 6, 2022 20:22:36 GMT -5
Why? Also adding the name Michael Elgin to the mix, it doesn't look like he's going to be employed anywhere major in the future. Because he is an egomaniac, a diva, and one step from being a total psycho. They hired CM Punk, didn't they?
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Post by chazraps on Dec 6, 2022 20:26:51 GMT -5
If you believe certain urban legends, it was a "thank you" from Bischoff for the locker room altercation with Vince. Imagine hiring a guy who strangled his last boss just to score some imaginary ego points Yeah, I don't put much stock in that urban legend. Norton pulled out the afternoon of the show because Bischoff told him the afternoon of the show that his pay was going to be literally half of what they had agreed on, so "The Convict" was as last minute as last minute surprises get.
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Post by Timeless Hayterade on Dec 6, 2022 20:44:57 GMT -5
Sexy Star due to the shit she pulled at Triplemania XXV.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 6, 2022 20:47:47 GMT -5
Orlando Jordan?
I never really knew why he was released from WWE until I recently read about it. Of course to be fair they are mostly just rumors but it sounds like he had the same issues later in Australia and was blackballed by a lot of promotions there.
It's even more odd when you think about how similar his situation was to another untouchable wrestler, Velveteen Dream Patrick Clark.
Come to think of it I'm just now realizing that Jordan's gimmick in TNA was not all that different from the Velveteen Dream gimmick. Of course Patrick Clark pulled it off way better and was a better worker.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 6, 2022 21:01:27 GMT -5
Orlando Jordan? I never really knew why he was released from WWE until I recently read about it. Of course to be fair they are mostly just rumors but it sounds like he had the same issues later in Australia and was blackballed by a lot of promotions there. It's even more odd when you think about how similar his situation was to another untouchable wrestler, Velveteen Dream Patrick Clark. Come to think of it I'm just now realizing that Jordan's gimmick in TNA was not all that different from the Velveteen Dream gimmick. Of course Patrick Clark pulled it off way better and was a better worker. What did Orlando Jordan allegedly do?
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 6, 2022 21:04:27 GMT -5
Feels kinda weird to have dead people on that list like New Jack. Marty Scurll was also this close to having a NJPW return before public and locker room backlash made them reconsider. I think Ryback might be on this list because I doubt WWE will ever bring him back and AEW doesn't want anything to do with him either. Impact would probably take a chance on him but they probably couldn't afford to pay him what he's worth in his mind. I'm kind of somewhat surprised Ryback never had even a small run in Impact. I think if it was like the pre-2012 TNA times when they were still throwing money around he probably would have ended up there for a while.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 6, 2022 21:06:16 GMT -5
Al Snow?
Seems to have alienated basically everyone with his dumbass "back in my day" hot takes, and he's never really been popular enough to be a solid nostalgia act.
Per wiki it sounds like Impact was cool with using him as a backstage guy, but he decided buying OVW and trying to make it a thing was a better use of his time, so I'd imagine the bridge is burned.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 6, 2022 21:15:27 GMT -5
Orlando Jordan? I never really knew why he was released from WWE until I recently read about it. Of course to be fair they are mostly just rumors but it sounds like he had the same issues later in Australia and was blackballed by a lot of promotions there. It's even more odd when you think about how similar his situation was to another untouchable wrestler, Velveteen Dream Patrick Clark. Come to think of it I'm just now realizing that Jordan's gimmick in TNA was not all that different from the Velveteen Dream gimmick. Of course Patrick Clark pulled it off way better and was a better worker. What did Orlando Jordan allegedly do? The rumor is that he allegedly was bringing a 16 year old male he was in a relationship with backstage to WWE and that is what lead to his release. Here is an article about it and other things he has been accused of. It's kind of baffling how similar it is to the Velveteen Dream allegations. www.pwmania.com/former-wwe-star-orlando-jordan-accused-of-preying-on-young-males
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 6, 2022 21:26:52 GMT -5
Al Snow? Seems to have alienated basically everyone with his dumbass "back in my day" hot takes, and he's never really been popular enough to be a solid nostalgia act. Per wiki it sounds like Impact was cool with using him as a backstage guy, but he decided buying OVW and trying to make it a thing was a better use of his time, so I'd imagine the bridge is burned. I wouldn't say Al Snow is blackballed. I could easily see him going to NXT as a coach/trainer if OVW ever went under. I doubt he would wrestle anywhere long-term though. The guy is almost 60 years old.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Dec 6, 2022 21:35:20 GMT -5
Simon Gotch?
He seems to have a pretty negative reputation. It sounds like he has an attitude or personality that just clashes in locker rooms. When I use to referee I actually heard one first hand account about how aloof and unappreciative he is.🤷♂️
My guess is that it isn't a coincidence that he hasn't been back in WWE or ever been in AEW or Impact.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 6, 2022 21:43:19 GMT -5
I like to think back to the territory days, and I’d love to hear some examples besides these.
Spike Huber. I don’t think he ever would have been close to main events, but he probably could have found work on the undercard or as enhancement talent somewhere. Unfortunately, he was in a relationship with the daughter of Dick the Bruiser, and when he apparently screwed that up, Bruiser called in any favors he had to keep anyone else from booking Huber. Given his ceiling, it wasn’t a huge sacrifice.
Eddie Mansfield. The 20/20 expose killed any chance of him getting work somewhere, but some have said that the reason he did 20/20 was because no one wanted to book him anymore.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 6, 2022 21:54:16 GMT -5
What did Orlando Jordan allegedly do? The rumor is that he allegedly was bringing a 16 year old male he was in a relationship with backstage to WWE and that is what lead to his release. Here is an article about it and other things he has been accused of. It's kind of baffling how similar it is to the Velveteen Dream allegations. www.pwmania.com/former-wwe-star-orlando-jordan-accused-of-preying-on-young-malesHoly shit that’s wild. I remember he beat Cena for the US title before he won the wwe title so I was a little confused when they released him
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 7, 2022 1:01:53 GMT -5
David Schultz kinda got blackballed back in the day.
Not for slapping Stossel like he claims though. Vince was in no way powerful enough at taht time to blackball someone from all of wrestling.
He basically got kicked out of every territory for being an asshole that was more trouble than he was worth.
There's a promo of him in Memphis with Randy Savage, cutting a promo on Jerry Lawler where he flat out goes off and says like JERRY LAWLER IS DISEASED AND THAT DISEASE IS AIDS! and goes off how no one wants anything to do with him.
he did all of this while wearing a shirt with a Swasitka on it... gee I wonder why Memphis didn't keep him around after that promo?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 7, 2022 1:11:31 GMT -5
What did Orlando Jordan allegedly do? The rumor is that he allegedly was bringing a 16 year old male he was in a relationship with backstage to WWE and that is what lead to his release. Here is an article about it and other things he has been accused of. It's kind of baffling how similar it is to the Velveteen Dream allegations. www.pwmania.com/former-wwe-star-orlando-jordan-accused-of-preying-on-young-malesSounds like Orlando is a mess, but the Flair story just makes me think what Flair's thought process had to be. "I don't want them to make a scene. Better scream at a guy until he begins crying, this will prevent the making of a scene."
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Post by Rave on Dec 7, 2022 5:45:10 GMT -5
It wasn't permanent since Sinclair-owned ROH booked him for a bit, but I remember Dan Maff got blackballed for several years after he did something that badly pissed off Homicide.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 7, 2022 6:16:04 GMT -5
Jim Cornette Outside of being a talking head on some Network stuff the WWE don't seem to want much to do with him. With AEW that bridge was burnt before they had even run a show. He also probably just doesn't have any interest in anything fulltime, anyway. In the past, he could be chummy even with people he disliked to get jobs, but given his podcast, it's probably worth more to his bottom line for him to appear credible to his fanbase than to play nice for a job. Cornette said several times on his podcast he has no interest in doing that stuff. He hates traveling as it is so there is that. I mean he doesn't do Comic Cons anymore. He only did the NWA his last role as a favor and that got messed up. A lot of people say his out of tough to be a good fit anywhere else.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2022 8:31:12 GMT -5
Aren't the Briscoes dealing with a soft blackballing? I remember there being rumblings that TNT didn't want them around. I know Impact can use them of course, but I think WWE and to some degree AEW can't. Actual blackballing? Quackenbush. there is a WBD executive who even after the merger does not want them on turner tv. Her allegedly leaking the actual brackets and spoilers of the Mae Young Classic because she was mad she wasn't winning is the big reason she isn't in WWE. Do I think WWE will eventually look at Tessa? Yes, but there's a lot of bad blood there. There were rumors AEW was looking at her when they returned to touring and the reception was so bad that Tony had to confirm they were not looking to add Tessa. I see Ryback mentioned. Would quote him but from what it sounds like his blacklisting is almost 100% financial. Does he say dumb stuff? Yes, but the big thing is he charges an insanely high booking fee. I think a similar issue arose when Bray Wyatt was released last year as I remember Impact was heavily pursuing him but it came out they just couldn't/wouldn't pay what he wanted. Anyways to add, guy has been a dead for a few years, But Rockin Rebel was so notorious for getting Black Balled he even made his own fed called Blackballed Wrestling Federation. Guy owned a promoter's license in the tri states and basically used it to get himself bookings and extort promoters
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Dec 7, 2022 8:52:21 GMT -5
Eddie Mansfield. The 20/20 expose killed any chance of him getting work somewhere, but some have said that the reason he did 20/20 was because no one wanted to book him anymore. Yet it still wasn't able to prevent him from working in the industry. He ran the IWF which did TV out of Universal Studios in Orlando in the early 90s, years after the 20/20 thing, and people still worked for him. He also worked behind the scenes for the short lived XWF in the early 2000's.
Nobody ever truly gets blackballed. They get "most of wrestling doesn't want to work with you anymore, but some still will."
Well, anyone who can put together the resources can run their own thing. Given the gap between 20/20 and IWF, it’s safe to say no one wanted him. By the time the XWF came along, he had already started his successful TV production career that he loves to brag so much about, and it was likely that over any wrestling related skills that got him the job. I’ll also fully admit to having a bias. I think he’s a lousy human being.
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Post by hitmanhart on Dec 7, 2022 10:19:18 GMT -5
Can anyone give me a bit more detail on the Marty Scurll situation? From what I've seen he hooked up with a 16/17 year old in a club in the UK when he was mid 20's whilst both were drunk.
Have I missed something here? Yes, she's young, but she is also of legal age in the UK to have sexual relations and it was consensual as confirmed by both sides.
Compared to what others have done and of those who received second chances, it doesn't appear that bad.
Apologies if I've missed something glaring.
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