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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 8, 2022 3:29:02 GMT -5
Holy shit that’s wild. I remember he beat Cena for the US title before he won the wwe title so I was a little confused when they released him He did, but once Benoit squashed him for the US at SummerSlam 05, OJ spent the remainder of his time in WWE as a jobber, if/when he got on TV at all. Now that I know the whole story maybe that's why he had such a fast fall from grace in WWE. Maybe WWE were trying to get the point across about the company he was keeping and perhaps OJ just wasn't getting the hint?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 8, 2022 3:32:12 GMT -5
It wasn't permanent since Sinclair-owned ROH booked him for a bit, but I remember Dan Maff got blackballed for several years after he did something that badly pissed off Homicide. Maff had just started getting used by ROH and NWA after being off the radar for over a decade, right before the pandemic happened. I haven't heard a thing about him since.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 8, 2022 3:34:10 GMT -5
He's been rebuilding his reputation fairly well in MLW and the indies. I think the only reason he really hasn't gotten a look elsewhere yet is Morrissey has said he wants to stay a singles wrestler and most places have been interested in them as a group I wouldn’t mind Enzo getting a shot somewhere again. He put himself in a stupid spot and then doubled down on the stupid by not letting the E and their legal team handle it, but it doesn’t seem like he did anything like these other guys. He’s been laying low for a while and staying out of trouble as far as I know. Enzo's always a really entertaining guest when he's on Busted Open Radio I'd like to see him brought back in some capacity.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 8, 2022 3:35:11 GMT -5
Cornette said several times on his podcast he has no interest in doing that stuff. He hates traveling as it is so there is that. I mean he doesn't do Comic Cons anymore. He only did the NWA his last role as a favor and that got messed up. A lot of people say his out of tough to be a good fit anywhere else.
At this point, I don't think Cornette would be widely accepted by the current generation of wrestlers. They're friends with each other similar to a fraternity, just like Cornette's generation was with each other. Given the way he has turned his podcast into a method of generating revenue by criticizing/burying current wrestlers, odds are he has offended most of these people by either directly criticizing them, or by talking trash about many of their friends. Whether it's partly a "podcast gimmick" or not, it would potentially cause problems backstage when they want nothing to do with the guy personally.
The AEW locker room wouldn't listen to Cody, JR, or Regal, there's no way in hell they'd listen to Cornette.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 8, 2022 3:39:14 GMT -5
Is EC3 now on this list after the dumpster fire that was CYN?
I also think it's hilarious that 90% of the guys that have been named in this thread work for or have previously worked for MLW.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 8, 2022 5:59:46 GMT -5
Yeah Nailz is a good call as well. Was there anything he did in WCW that warranted his short run there? If you believe certain urban legends, it was a "thank you" from Bischoff for the locker room altercation with Vince. That's BS because his 'big' appearance was in 93, prior to Bischoff's rise to that level of pettiness, and his other appearances were around the time they were using Minnesota talent like Nord, Darsow, Enos and Bloom and so on as Enhancement talent, likely due to the AWA ties Bischoff and Gagne had.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 8, 2022 6:11:38 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty. Too unreliable and unpredictable for the WWE to want to risk using in any fashion and I'm sure Tony Kahn knows all the sleaze he's admitted to in shoots. The Young Bucks love him, but haven't even gotten him a cameo on AEW TV, that says it all, really.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 8, 2022 6:14:31 GMT -5
Is EC3 now on this list after the dumpster fire that was CYN? I also think it's hilarious that 90% of the guys that have been named in this thread work for or have previously worked for MLW. MLW's usually been able to get name talent by getting people who are veterans who are working for them for some kind of mutual benefit (Savio Vega, Tajiri), or guys who screwed up other places so they'll accept the pay being low (Aries, Elgin, Low Ki, Teddy Hart). The rest of what they get are guys who aren't somebodies yet on their way up, like MJF and Darby Allin, among others. I'd list Jacob Fatu for his legal woes in the past, but he'd probably get a look from WWE. Still, he's probably one of the only MLW guys who makes good money, and he gets to be a big fish in a small pond, so maybe he's cool with staying right where he is.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 8, 2022 7:00:49 GMT -5
Is EC3 now on this list after the dumpster fire that was CYN? I also think it's hilarious that 90% of the guys that have been named in this thread work for or have previously worked for MLW. I wouldn't really say EC3 applies. He's still getting work in NWA and if he eased off on pumping literally every steroid into his body I could see him popping up in NXT or doing some Dark work or something.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 8, 2022 7:02:40 GMT -5
I've never heard anything about Snow being on bad terms with anyone at Impact, or having left there with any animosity whatsoever. Quite the opposite, actually.
Yeah OVW and Impact have a great relationship. Impact sends wrestlers over there to help promote tapings and ppvs, and a lot of ovw guys have worked impact tapings in ring and backstage gofer roles, and impact has used the Davis arena for taping their old skool shows. AEW also gave Al some love on tv when he showed up for one of the kadt Daley shows before they went back on the road... I believe there was even talk of sending Dustin and QT's students there for work (dunno if anything came from that) Al has said some really dumb stuff in shoot interviews, and Triple H allegedly hated having him as head trainer back in OVW, but aside from that Al seems content running OVW and his wrestling school (which weirdly enough is an accredited school)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 11:10:21 GMT -5
Yeah OVW and Impact have a great relationship. Impact sends wrestlers over there to help promote tapings and ppvs, and a lot of ovw guys have worked impact tapings in ring and backstage gofer roles, and impact has used the Davis arena for taping their old skool shows. AEW also gave Al some love on tv when he showed up for one of the kadt Daley shows before they went back on the road... I believe there was even talk of sending Dustin and QT's students there for work (dunno if anything came from that) Al has said some really dumb stuff in shoot interviews, and Triple H allegedly hated having him as head trainer back in OVW, but aside from that Al seems content running OVW and his wrestling school (which weirdly enough is an accredited school) OVW wrestlers are still popping up on Dark any time they’re in the area. Seriously it was one of my favorite shows for a while, if you’re looking for well defined characters, some decent wrestling, old school storytelling, and the face normally wins in the end. OVW is worth checking out.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 9, 2022 6:35:00 GMT -5
Is EC3 now on this list after the dumpster fire that was CYN? I also think it's hilarious that 90% of the guys that have been named in this thread work for or have previously worked for MLW. I don't think he is. I mean Braun and Kross where also in that and Braun was vocal about his views. Yet both of them went back to WWE. The guy however is juiced to the gills in an unhealthy looking way.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 9, 2022 9:00:55 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty. Too unreliable and unpredictable for the WWE to want to risk using in any fashion and I'm sure Tony Kahn knows all the sleaze he's admitted to in shoots. The Young Bucks love him, but haven't even gotten him a cameo on AEW TV, that says it all, really. Noone wants to hire Marty, because the budget for installing new windows he jumps through (the coward) would be astronomical.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Dec 9, 2022 9:15:14 GMT -5
Jim Cornette Outside of being a talking head on some Network stuff the WWE don't seem to want much to do with him. With AEW that bridge was burnt before they had even run a show. He doesn't count because at this point in time, he doesn't want to work for any wrestling companies. It wouldn't matter.
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Post by mistery on Dec 9, 2022 9:19:15 GMT -5
I would put Tyrus on the list, to be honest. He can only find work in the NWA, and has constantly shown himself to be a terrible person.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 9, 2022 17:18:08 GMT -5
Just have to ask, is Low-Ki on the list due to his history of being an.asshole, or did he do something absolutely reprehensible? Just wondering, because of the company he has on the list.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 9, 2022 18:18:35 GMT -5
Just have to ask, is Low-Ki on the list due to his history of being an.asshole, or did he do something absolutely reprehensible? Just wondering, because of the company he has on the list. Mostly for being an asshole who thinks he's the biggest deal in the universe, though being an anti-masker didn't help matters any. He also at this point has probably aged out of people thinking he's worth the headache. There are a lot of young wrestlers out there, many of whom can do a lot of what he can do, but they won't do shit like wear gear they were told not to wear, throw a fit if told to finish a match with an injured opponent before they got all their spots in, etc. That said, I have never heard anyone suggest he, like, gets handsy with people or anything untoward. Maybe he does and I haven't seen it, but it's more like a Warrior situation than anything else.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 9, 2022 19:37:25 GMT -5
Just have to ask, is Low-Ki on the list due to his history of being an.asshole, or did he do something absolutely reprehensible? Just wondering, because of the company he has on the list. Mostly for being an asshole who thinks he's the biggest deal in the universe, though being an anti-masker didn't help matters any. He also at this point has probably aged out of people thinking he's worth the headache. There are a lot of young wrestlers out there, many of whom can do a lot of what he can do, but they won't do shit like wear gear they were told not to wear, throw a fit if told to finish a match with an injured opponent before they got all their spots in, etc. That said, I have never heard anyone suggest he, like, gets handsy with people or anything untoward. Maybe he does and I haven't seen it, but it's more like a Warrior situation than anything else. Makes sense. Like, I totally get why most promoters would have a "thanks, but no" policy with him. I just wasn't sure if I'd missed a sex or racism scandal or something.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 9, 2022 19:53:05 GMT -5
Enzo is a rapist. He was never "found innocent."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2022 19:55:19 GMT -5
Just have to ask, is Low-Ki on the list due to his history of being an.asshole, or did he do something absolutely reprehensible? Just wondering, because of the company he has on the list. Mostly for being an asshole who thinks he's the biggest deal in the universe, though being an anti-masker didn't help matters any. He also at this point has probably aged out of people thinking he's worth the headache. There are a lot of young wrestlers out there, many of whom can do a lot of what he can do, but they won't do shit like wear gear they were told not to wear, throw a fit if told to finish a match with an injured opponent before they got all their spots in, etc. That said, I have never heard anyone suggest he, like, gets handsy with people or anything untoward. Maybe he does and I haven't seen it, but it's more like a Warrior situation than anything else.
Kaval/Low Ki to me always seemed like a proto version of Malakai Black, except that Black is far more professional and just... better, overall
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