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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 9, 2022 20:22:41 GMT -5
Enzo is a rapist. He was never "found innocent." At the very least even if it was consensual it was still incredibly yikesy that he was doing drugs and having sex with someone barely out of high school.
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Post by hentery on Dec 9, 2022 21:38:30 GMT -5
It wasn't permanent since Sinclair-owned ROH booked him for a bit, but I remember Dan Maff got blackballed for several years after he did something that badly pissed off Homicide. Maff had just started getting used by ROH and NWA after being off the radar for over a decade, right before the pandemic happened. I haven't heard a thing about him since. Weird way to say he f***ed homicides underage relative
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 10, 2022 1:11:19 GMT -5
Maff had just started getting used by ROH and NWA after being off the radar for over a decade, right before the pandemic happened. I haven't heard a thing about him since. Weird way to say he f***ed homicides underage relative I know that's been the rumor for years, and trust me I am in no way giving him a pass if that's what happened, but was this ever proven true? Or is this Savage/Steph territory where it sounds like a juicy story and nobody has ever denied it, so it must be true? I have discussed the Maff/Homicide issue before on these boards and nobody has any evidence either way. I also find it strange that Homicide is working with Maff again. Because if it was my underage relative, we are NEVER working together again.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 10, 2022 1:38:20 GMT -5
Just have to ask, is Low-Ki on the list due to his history of being an.asshole, or did he do something absolutely reprehensible? Just wondering, because of the company he has on the list. Mostly for being an asshole who thinks he's the biggest deal in the universe, though being an anti-masker didn't help matters any. He also at this point has probably aged out of people thinking he's worth the headache. There are a lot of young wrestlers out there, many of whom can do a lot of what he can do, but they won't do shit like wear gear they were told not to wear, throw a fit if told to finish a match with an injured opponent before they got all their spots in, etc. That said, I have never heard anyone suggest he, like, gets handsy with people or anything untoward. Maybe he does and I haven't seen it, but it's more like a Warrior situation than anything else. The guy didn't want to lose to Claudio because he didn't think it would be believable. Who could buy that a guy almost a foot taller, 60 pounds heavier, and with freakish strength could beat Low-Ki?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 10, 2022 1:43:20 GMT -5
Weird way to say he f***ed homicides underage relative I know that's been the rumor for years, and trust me I am in no way giving him a pass if that's what happened, but was this ever proven true? Or is this Savage/Steph territory where it sounds like a juicy story and nobody has ever denied it, so it must be true? I have discussed the Maff/Homicide issue before on these boards and nobody has any evidence either way. I also find it strange that Homicide is working with Maff again. Because if it was my underage relative, we are NEVER working together again. Yeah, I know wrestling is "the garbage business", but I still don't know that I buy this.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 10, 2022 3:43:23 GMT -5
Enzo is a rapist. He was never "found innocent." Was he found guilty, either?
Not in a court of law but the evidence absolutely points that way, plus the only reason it didn't go further is because the survivor didn't have the resources to charge him.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 10, 2022 8:32:37 GMT -5
Mostly for being an asshole who thinks he's the biggest deal in the universe, though being an anti-masker didn't help matters any. He also at this point has probably aged out of people thinking he's worth the headache. There are a lot of young wrestlers out there, many of whom can do a lot of what he can do, but they won't do shit like wear gear they were told not to wear, throw a fit if told to finish a match with an injured opponent before they got all their spots in, etc. That said, I have never heard anyone suggest he, like, gets handsy with people or anything untoward. Maybe he does and I haven't seen it, but it's more like a Warrior situation than anything else. The guy didn't want to lose to Claudio because he didn't think it would be believable. Who could buy that a guy almost a foot taller, 60 pounds heavier, and with freakish strength could beat Low-Ki? Ki had people blowing smoke up his ass about what a legit tough guy he was for years even though he never did anything to actually earn that reputation. All he ever did was legit kick people as hard as possible and they had to put up with it because "Daddy (Gabe Sapolsky) said sell!"
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 10, 2022 11:08:38 GMT -5
My favorite Low Ki story will always be how he got mad that Sunny made a joke at his expense at an indy show and he freaked out and yelled "YOU WILL RESPECT LOW KI"
But yeah the issue with Low Ki is he's difficult to work with (both as a promoter and talent) and he's expensive. KO told a story about how they were doing a show to help raise money for Canada and Low Ki called him saying he'd like to be on the show. Kevin didn't call him originally because he knew they couldn't match Low Ki's booking fee and when Ki told them as much Kevin asked why he even called to get booked.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 10, 2022 11:11:11 GMT -5
Weird way to say he f***ed homicides underage relative I know that's been the rumor for years, and trust me I am in no way giving him a pass if that's what happened, but was this ever proven true? Or is this Savage/Steph territory where it sounds like a juicy story and nobody has ever denied it, so it must be true? I have discussed the Maff/Homicide issue before on these boards and nobody has any evidence either way. I also find it strange that Homicide is working with Maff again. Because if it was my underage relative, we are NEVER working together again. Homicide did go in a social media rant back then basically saying he would not work with anybody booking Maff nor would any of his students (which back then was a big deal) and flat out called Maff a pedophile. In recent years he said he and Maff quelled their beef so who knows what happened
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Post by Ozman on Dec 10, 2022 11:40:21 GMT -5
Joey Styles?
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 10, 2022 12:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 10, 2022 13:18:09 GMT -5
My favorite Low Ki story will always be how he got mad that Sunny made a joke at his expense at an indy show and he freaked out and yelled "YOU WILL RESPECT LOW KI" But yeah the issue with Low Ki is he's difficult to work with (both as a promoter and talent) and he's expensive. KO told a story about how they were doing a show to help raise money for Canada and Low Ki called him saying he'd like to be on the show. Kevin didn't call him originally because he knew they couldn't match Low Ki's booking fee and when Ki told them as much Kevin asked why he even called to get booked. "Low Ki raises money for Canada" is a concept I didn't know I needed.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Dec 12, 2022 23:27:24 GMT -5
I havenât heard anything from ACH since he had his meltdown over the t-shirt in NXT.
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Post by Andee9001 on Dec 13, 2022 1:32:06 GMT -5
Was he found guilty, either?
Not in a court of law but the evidence absolutely points that way, plus the only reason it didn't go further is because the survivor didn't have the resources to charge him. I don't know about that. The txts she sent her friend don't really support her claims. That's not to say he didn't do it but i've always felt it raised too much doubt.
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Post by rainandlava on Dec 18, 2022 20:40:40 GMT -5
It's true after that bad Trump joke he made at EVOLVE was what cost him his job at both that and CHIKARA (Ironic considering what Quack turned out to be), Styles pretty much left the industry and he hasn't be heard of from since. And yet, Gabe's firing of him to me came off as hypocritical, considering Gabe was the same moron who booked an attempted rape angle in ROH involving Allison Danger that got him fired from ROH later (in 2008?) and never apologized for it. If I could also throw in another name, Chasyn Rance seems like another name who never made it to the majors considering that he's a registered sex offender.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 18, 2022 20:44:45 GMT -5
It's true after that bad Trump joke he made at EVOLVE was what cost him his job at both that and CHIKARA (Ironic considering what Quack turned out to be), Styles pretty much left the industry and he hasn't be heard of from since. And yet, Gabe's firing of him to me came off as hypocritical, considering Gabe was the same moron who booked an attempted rape angle in ROH involving Allison Danger that got him fired from ROH later (in 2008?) and never apologized for it. If I could also throw in another name, Chasyn Rance seems like another name who never made it to the majors considering that he's a registered sex offender. IIRC Joey got fired because he was told ahead of time not to make any political jokes and he did anyways
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2022 21:29:22 GMT -5
It's true after that bad Trump joke he made at EVOLVE was what cost him his job at both that and CHIKARA (Ironic considering what Quack turned out to be), Styles pretty much left the industry and he hasn't be heard of from since. And yet, Gabe's firing of him to me came off as hypocritical, considering Gabe was the same moron who booked an attempted rape angle in ROH involving Allison Danger that got him fired from ROH later (in 2008?) and never apologized for it. If I could also throw in another name, Chasyn Rance seems like another name who never made it to the majors considering that he's a registered sex offender. IIRC Joey got fired because he was told ahead of time not to make any political jokes and he did anyways Yeah, it was less just the content of the joke and more that he ignored explicit, unambiguous instructions not to do something, doing it anyway.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 19, 2022 15:57:12 GMT -5
I havenât heard anything from ACH since he had his meltdown over the t-shirt in NXT. He was in MLW and I think did some New Japan Strong but I think he's semi retired. But... yes between the NXT stuff and how he acted in ROH most places are/were hesitant to work with him
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Post by tntchamp on Dec 20, 2022 18:57:11 GMT -5
I havenât heard anything from ACH since he had his meltdown over the t-shirt in NXT. He was in MLW and I think did some New Japan Strong but I think he's semi retired. But... yes between the NXT stuff and how he acted in ROH most places are/were hesitant to work with him ACH is a great example of having a legit grievance and getting people on your side only to completely handle it the absolute worst way possible to the point to where you come off actually worse then the people he was rightfully mad against.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 20, 2022 19:05:29 GMT -5
Enzo is a rapist. He was never "found innocent." What was the details of this case? Anything besides âhe said, she saidâ shit? Granted I wouldnât be surprised if it were true and he is a weirdo for hanging out with 19 year olds, but unless itâs a case where there are multiple accusers coming forward or concrete evidence I feel like calling someone a rapist is too much.
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