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Post by 魔界5号 on Feb 21, 2023 6:32:03 GMT -5
Yeah i said it before but the English commentary really stinks. Muto started doing the chops and then pointed to the sky for Hashimoto and they said it was in reference to Baba. They corrected themselves after he did the DDT but like.. come on lmao Yeah, did Mutoh ever even have any sort of relationship with Baba? It seems weird to jump to that conclusion. Muto jumped to All Japan after Baba had died but he did have a working relationship with Mrs. Baba and thus paid tribute to her husband a few times while she was still boss. He never really had a relationship with Baba himself though no.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 21, 2023 6:33:26 GMT -5
Yeah, did Mutoh ever even have any sort of relationship with Baba? It seems weird to jump to that conclusion. Muto jumped to All Japan after Baba had died but he did have a working relationship with Mrs. Baba and thus paid tribute to her husband a few times while she was still boss. He never really had a relationship with Baba himself though no. Ah, okay, so it's not entirely pulled out of their ass, just a mistake. That's not as bad as I thought, then.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Feb 21, 2023 6:36:23 GMT -5
Muto jumped to All Japan after Baba had died but he did have a working relationship with Mrs. Baba and thus paid tribute to her husband a few times while she was still boss. He never really had a relationship with Baba himself though no. Ah, okay, so it's not entirely pulled out of their ass, just a mistake. That's not as bad as I thought, then. It's still a pretty shocking mistake to make though considering everyone knows the connection between Muto and Hashimoto and he’s done this before in other matches, it’s pretty clear when he does chops and points it’s Hashimoto's thing. Feel like actual established american commentators would be better than the randoms every puro fed seems to use.
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Post by 魔界5号 on Feb 21, 2023 7:17:54 GMT -5
This was an okay show but I’d still say I preferred the Tenryu and Kobashi retirement shows over this for having better undercards, but the main event was good and I absolutely loved the secret main event with Chono, Muto and Chono got to have their retirement match together in the Tokyo Dome which was an awesome moment and really signifies the end of their 90s-2000s era of puroresu to me, Muto, Chono, Sasaki, Hashimoto, Kawada, Kobashi, Misawa, Takayama, Tenryu, Liger, all of them are now done or unfortunately passed away, even the guys who were rising stars in their era (Tanahashi, Kojima) are getting older now.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 21, 2023 7:47:25 GMT -5
Lenne Hardt: *the most absurd visceral sound you've ever heard in yr life where dudes name is half missing in a sea of passion* Me in tears: it's beautiful I want her to do the ring announcing for an NXT show, damn it.
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Post by chrom on Feb 21, 2023 8:10:14 GMT -5
Man, Okada just destroyed Kaito.
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Post by Fundertaker on Feb 21, 2023 14:49:30 GMT -5
Yeah i said it before but the English commentary really stinks. Muto started doing the chops and then pointed to the sky for Hashimoto and they said it was in reference to Baba. They corrected themselves after he did the DDT but like.. come on lmao They also do themselves no favors by sounding unenthusiastic and not being that knowledgeable about non-NOAH personnel as possible. Just watched Okada/Kiyomiya and my god, they don't know the name of any of Okada's signature moves aside from the Rainmaker. Like Kevin Kelly on the New Japan front can also be a bit unkowledgeable, but that's why Chris Charlton is there, to kinda fill in on things like a new age Mike Tenay (weather they do a good job on it as announcers is another thing). These guys from NOAH sound interchangeable cardboard cutouts with voices.
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Post by Convoy on Feb 21, 2023 14:53:18 GMT -5
So much for that time limit draw people were expecting. Okada murked that kid and left like he had a dinner reservation.
Highlight for me was the medley of Mutoh themes prior to the match. Damn that legend had some legendary music.
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Post by Fundertaker on Feb 21, 2023 15:00:04 GMT -5
Highlight for me was the medley of Mutoh themes prior to the match. Damn that legend had some legendary music. I popped for the fact that the entire audience popped for Triumph, which is is best theme to be fair.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 21, 2023 15:29:32 GMT -5
This has to be a long term storyline with Kaito so far as looking strong in the Dome, right? I know he’s young and can be built back up, but I wasn’t expecting Okada to whoop his ass that bad. It wasn’t a squash, but that was a pretty decisive win NOAH allowed over their GHC champ.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 15:58:16 GMT -5
Highlight for me was the medley of Mutoh themes prior to the match. Damn that legend had some legendary music. I popped for the fact that the entire audience popped for Triumph, which is is best theme to be fair. I popped for the whole crowd yelling out 'N-W-O!" for the intro to "NWO Triumph."
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 15:59:27 GMT -5
I think the coolest thing was Mutoh giving Chono one final match. For those unaware, Chono has basically been medically retired for some time because the doctors told him he was so hurt that he couldn't even take a single bump. So, he never got that final match. Mutoh gave that to him on his way out.
Not afraid to say I was in tears when Tiger Hattori followed them to officiate.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 16:15:05 GMT -5
This has to be a long term storyline with Kaito so far as looking strong in the Dome, right? I know he’s young and can be built back up, but I wasn’t expecting Okada to whoop his ass that bad. It wasn’t a squash, but that was a pretty decisive win NOAH allowed over their GHC champ. NOAH is terrible at playing hardball with other promotions. That's an issue when dealing with New Japan who are notorious for giving their partners next to nothing without getting a ton back in return.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 16:17:49 GMT -5
Yeah i said it before but the English commentary really stinks. Muto started doing the chops and then pointed to the sky for Hashimoto and they said it was in reference to Baba. They corrected themselves after he did the DDT but like.. come on lmao I wanted to leap across the screen and give them a Hashimoto style kick when they did that. How have you been callign a promotion where Mutoh's been a major part of it for 3 years and you know nothing about his history with SHINYA HASHIMOTO.
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Post by chrom on Feb 21, 2023 16:20:33 GMT -5
Had an attendance of over 30,000.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 21, 2023 18:02:14 GMT -5
I think the coolest thing was Mutoh giving Chono one final match. For those unaware, Chono has basically been medically retired for some time because the doctors told him he was so hurt that he couldn't even take a single bump. So, he never got that final match. Mutoh gave that to him on his way out. Not afraid to say I was in tears when Tiger Hattori followed them to officiate. Chono should be the Final Boss of Wrestling. MJF beats Danielson? Chono appears. Cody goes over Roman? Chono goes "GOD DAMN". Rhea gets her win over Charlotte? There's Chono! Dario up to shenanigans in MLW? Chono walks in the office.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 18:08:57 GMT -5
Also popped for hearing this banger again:
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 21, 2023 19:19:21 GMT -5
Mutoh's daughter put up this old photo of her and her father, and a tribute.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Feb 27, 2023 23:15:16 GMT -5
Just caught this yesterday. Fun show.
I really love that the story of his match was having Naito in a dangerous position multiple times, but his body just not being able to hit the moonsault cost him. Beautiful way of protecting both. The entrance and post-match stuff was magical too.
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Post by HMARK Center on Feb 28, 2023 8:14:19 GMT -5
The story in the champ vs champ match was definitely that Kaito had gotten too big for his britches and cost himself by deciding to poke the bear that is Okada. You want the guy who’s basically the modern face of Tokyo Dome shows? You think the best way to get his attention and to get him to agree to a match is to attack him? Well, junior, you reap what you sow. The downside? I wanted a longer match that could’ve stood to feel a little more brutal. Upside: I do think this is part of a long term story for Kaito. But NOAH coming through with its booking for its younger talent is always a roll of the dice, so we shall see. Also, yeah, count me as one who got kind of verklempt when Muto called Chono and Tiger Hattori into the ring. I think the coolest thing was Mutoh giving Chono one final match. For those unaware, Chono has basically been medically retired for some time because the doctors told him he was so hurt that he couldn't even take a single bump. So, he never got that final match. Mutoh gave that to him on his way out. Not afraid to say I was in tears when Tiger Hattori followed them to officiate. Chono should be the Final Boss of Wrestling. MJF beats Danielson? Chono appears. Cody goes over Roman? Chono goes "GOD DAMN". Rhea gets her win over Charlotte? There's Chono! Dario up to shenanigans in MLW? Chono walks in the office. Can he be driving the Hummer into the office?
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