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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2023 5:49:39 GMT -5
WARHORSE is not an actual horse.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Jan 31, 2023 6:14:01 GMT -5
FTR are average-sized guys for wrestlers but are often presented as hosses due to their meat and potatoes presentation and 80s tag style.
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Post by Peeetah on Jan 31, 2023 6:24:51 GMT -5
Hoss isn't about size it's a state of mind.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 31, 2023 7:12:03 GMT -5
Paul Burchill was indie big, kind of like Kross. When you're tossing around indie guys who are 5'6, you look like the Undertaker by comparison, but in a place like the WWE, you're nothing special around 6'4" former college athletes.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 31, 2023 7:32:16 GMT -5
I don't how someone like Borga wouldn't qualify as being a hoss. Dude was like 6'3" or 6'4" and about 300 pounds and incredibly strong. Same goes for Volkoff. As far as faux hosses goes I think that can be applied for a lot of wrestlers today just due to guys being a lot smaller now especially in environments like AEW or NXT. As a result you'll get 6'2" 240 guys like Wardlow and Karrion Kross being booked like powerhouse juggernauts when in reality they are just average sized wrestlers. Like Wardlow is probably about as big as Curt Hennig was. Maybe even a little smaller. And Curt Hennig was never anyone would classify as a hoss. Borga was huge alongside the average guy, no mistake. When he was working with Luger, Bulldog, Tatanka, and various others the effect didn’t really come across because he was hardly towering over them. When I look at Brodie Lee’s info work he looked like a giant among men, when he became Luke Harper it was harder to grasp just what a huge guy he was because of what he was working with.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jan 31, 2023 7:58:51 GMT -5
Bull Dempsey was an experiment to see if they could pass off a video store manager as a monster heel
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 31, 2023 10:08:35 GMT -5
I do find it really interesting and cool how Rhea comes across as a total hoss in the woman's division, even though she's not notably tall.
She's got that rangy build and attitude and presence that makes her seem bigger. Charlotte's probably the closest equivelent, body-wise.
Land of the Giants effect does come into play for both the men and women on the roster, of course. And yeah, you can be hugely powerful without being tall as well.
Some of the stuff Chad Gable can do is frankly amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 10:41:59 GMT -5
John Silver is shorter than I am, but his offense is basically like a cannonball that can bench press you, so I'd say he counts.
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Post by malloc on Jan 31, 2023 12:16:42 GMT -5
When Joey Abs first debuted for the Mean Street Posse they tried to present him as a hoss, with JR literally calling him "huge". It didn't last very long, which was probably a smart move considering apart from his biceps he looked smaller than Pete Gas. I guess he looked tougher with the big arms and beard
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 31, 2023 13:45:14 GMT -5
Scott Norton was another one who was hyped as ts behemoth but he never struck me as particularly huge. Barrell shaped and looked like a hard bastard. Land of the giants effect as others have described. Norton is a huge dude but when he was on the same show with the likes of Goldberg, Scott Steiner, Bam Bam, or Wrath it just didn’t come across, at least not to me back then. Similar note, I remember La Parks looking pretty average sized against the rest of the roster but when he had matches with some other luchadores, Rey most notably, he suddenly looked huge by comparison.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 31, 2023 13:54:00 GMT -5
Anyone who played college football will be classified as a "hoss."
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 31, 2023 14:06:48 GMT -5
I don't how someone like Borga wouldn't qualify as being a hoss. Dude was like 6'3" or 6'4" and about 300 pounds and incredibly strong. Same goes for Volkoff. As far as faux hosses goes I think that can be applied for a lot of wrestlers today just due to guys being a lot smaller now especially in environments like AEW or NXT. As a result you'll get 6'2" 240 guys like Wardlow and Karrion Kross being booked like powerhouse juggernauts when in reality they are just average sized wrestlers. Like Wardlow is probably about as big as Curt Hennig was. Maybe even a little smaller. And Curt Hennig was never anyone would classify as a hoss. Borga was huge alongside the average guy, no mistake. When he was working with Luger, Bulldog, Tatanka, and various others the effect didn’t really come across because he was hardly towering over them. When I look at Brodie Lee’s info work he looked like a giant among men, when he became Luke Harper it was harder to grasp just what a huge guy he was because of what he was working with. Scott Hall syndrome, guy was huge, but during his big pushes he stood alongside Kevin Nash, who is a legit giant of a man, Hulk Hogan and so on so that was lost on fans, to an extent. Hell, even in his first WCW run, he was paired with DDP back when he was a manager, and DDP is another huge guy and it detracted from his size somewhat.
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Jan 31, 2023 14:07:25 GMT -5
Davey Boy Smith was all of 5'10 and he was treated as one of the most powerful wrestlers in the WWF or WCW. Maybe he was? He did some displays of strength that borders on being stupidly strong, and was almost as wide as he was tall. Now, call me crazy, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Crash Holly fudged the scale and didn't really weigh 400+ lbs. How dare you sully Crash Holly's reputation. He was a dictionary definition of a hoss.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 31, 2023 14:55:30 GMT -5
I do find it really interesting and cool how Rhea comes across as a total hoss in the woman's division, even though she's not notably tall. She's got that rangy build and attitude and presence that makes her seem bigger. Charlotte's probably the closest equivelent, body-wise. Land of the Giants effect does come into play for both the men and women on the roster, of course. And yeah, you can be hugely powerful without being tall as well. Some of the stuff Chad Gable can do is frankly amazing. I don't know if I would describe Rhea's build as rangy. She's got thick legs and is probably the most muscular woman on the roster. Rangy would be someone like Michelle McCool for instance. Tall and slender. I know where you are coming from though about not being quite as big as you would think. I remember her and Bayley squaring up a few weeks back and being surprised that other then Rhea being more muscular there really wasn't that big of a difference in that they were about the same height and size. Bayley is kind of the opposite in she's bigger then you would think as far being pretty thick and also decently tall as well but you don't really think of her as being big because she's never been presented as that in that she's never been portrayed as a hoss or a powerhouse and has either been an underdog face or an annoying chicken s**t heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 15:23:52 GMT -5
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 31, 2023 15:35:55 GMT -5
Bull Dempsey was an experiment to see if they could pass off a video store manager as a monster heel In an era of NXT where basically everyone heavily featured was over he was the exception. Until he did Bullfit, then he was released.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jan 31, 2023 15:40:46 GMT -5
I don't how someone like Borga wouldn't qualify as being a hoss. Dude was like 6'3" or 6'4" and about 300 pounds and incredibly strong. Same goes for Volkoff. As far as faux hosses goes I think that can be applied for a lot of wrestlers today just due to guys being a lot smaller now especially in environments like AEW or NXT. As a result you'll get 6'2" 240 guys like Wardlow and Karrion Kross being booked like powerhouse juggernauts when in reality they are just average sized wrestlers. Like Wardlow is probably about as big as Curt Hennig was. Maybe even a little smaller. And Curt Hennig was never anyone would classify as a hoss. Adult me watches Mr. Perfect and notices Hennig had bigger arms, chest and thighs than 1990 Ultimate Warrior, just that his physique wasn't as well defined and cut. His style wasn't hoss though.
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Post by tirtefaa on Jan 31, 2023 15:50:37 GMT -5
I mean, he is...but it was funny to see Ryback next to Tension, who the latter had probably 6 inches on.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 31, 2023 17:42:54 GMT -5
I don't how someone like Borga wouldn't qualify as being a hoss. Dude was like 6'3" or 6'4" and about 300 pounds and incredibly strong. Same goes for Volkoff. As far as faux hosses goes I think that can be applied for a lot of wrestlers today just due to guys being a lot smaller now especially in environments like AEW or NXT. As a result you'll get 6'2" 240 guys like Wardlow and Karrion Kross being booked like powerhouse juggernauts when in reality they are just average sized wrestlers. Like Wardlow is probably about as big as Curt Hennig was. Maybe even a little smaller. And Curt Hennig was never anyone would classify as a hoss. Adult me watches Mr. Perfect and notices Hennig had bigger arms, chest and thighs than 1990 Ultimate Warrior, just that his physique wasn't as well defined and cut. His style wasn't hoss though. I remember Perfect always being billed at 257 and thinking "yeah right". However when I watch matches of him from 90 onwards I realize that 257 actually isn't that ridiculous due to the points you made with like how big his legs and chest were. Also like you said he wrestled a really finesse style in the ring (very little power moves, flew and bumped around the ring a lot) so that made it more deceiving as well. I think another reason is that he was kind of smaller in his AWA days and even like the first year of his WWF run. I'm guessing he probably felt he needed to start juicing when he started feuding with Hogan around late 89-early 90. Seemed like got bigger from that point onwards.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 31, 2023 17:58:20 GMT -5
This thread would be way more interesting if was “Horses that weren’t actually horses” which is what I originally thought it was.
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