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Post by sfvega on Mar 10, 2023 18:10:35 GMT -5
I was expecting the Bears to get an RGIII type return of 3 firsts. But I think that was hindered a bit by Bryce not being close to 6 foot. I like the Moore acquisition as it brings in someone in their prime who they don't have to wait on developing. I bet they're praying that Skoronski is there at #9. I think they should have pushed for a 3rd in 2024, especially considering they took the Niners 2nd this year as oppposed to the Panthers' pick. But overall a good deal, especially since I think Stroud has the higher ceiling.
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Post by Mecca on Mar 10, 2023 18:17:44 GMT -5
I was expecting the Bears to get an RGIII type return of 3 firsts. But I think that was hindered a bit by Bryce not being close to 6 foot. I like the Moore acquisition as it brings in someone in their prime who they don't have to wait on developing. I bet they're praying that Skoronski is there at #9. I think they should have pushed for a 3rd in 2024, especially considering they took the Niners 2nd this year as oppposed to the Panthers' pick. But overall a good deal, especially since I think Stroud has the higher ceiling. I think the Bears are more hoping Jalen Carter falls.. Also why would they wanna take Skoronski when they could just sign Brown or Taylor or both?
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Post by Perd on Mar 10, 2023 18:27:15 GMT -5
That is a haul. You got a stud WR on top of all those picks. You can still get a good player at 9. And you have plenty of money and draft capital to address your multiple holes. If Justin Filew can take that next step, the Bears can get good, real fast.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 10, 2023 18:38:24 GMT -5
Notable FA WRs
- Adam Thielen - Juju Smith-Schuster - Julio Jones - DJ Chark - Marvin Jones - Nelson Agholor - Jakobi Myers - Jarvis Landry - Byron Pringle - Allen Lazard - Jamison Crowder - Robert Woods - Darius Slayton - Mecole Hardman - Odell Beckham Jr
There are more, but Carolina could easily get 2-3 from this pile and have a good system for whatever Quarterback they choose to give him some decent targets imo
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 10, 2023 18:43:15 GMT -5
Ryan Poles baby. Ryan Poles.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 10, 2023 18:43:23 GMT -5
I was expecting the Bears to get an RGIII type return of 3 firsts. But I think that was hindered a bit by Bryce not being close to 6 foot. I like the Moore acquisition as it brings in someone in their prime who they don't have to wait on developing. I bet they're praying that Skoronski is there at #9. I think they should have pushed for a 3rd in 2024, especially considering they took the Niners 2nd this year as oppposed to the Panthers' pick. But overall a good deal, especially since I think Stroud has the higher ceiling. I think the Bears are more hoping Jalen Carter falls.. Also why would they wanna take Skoronski when they could just sign Brown or Taylor or both? Because it's a more efficient use of their cap space. They can sign Brown and draft Skoronski and have a reasonably-priced line going forward instead of allocated a ton of cap to just the tackle position, because is Fields develops well, he's gonna end up getting paid. Moore eats into their surplus of cap space. Claypool and Kmet are both upcoming FAs next year. Their infinite cap space this year is significantly less 2 or 3 years down the road, so there's no need to spend frivolously on one position now, especially to do so to grab a guy with character concerns from a program that is loaded with them.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 10, 2023 18:49:54 GMT -5
I think the Bears are more hoping Jalen Carter falls.. Also why would they wanna take Skoronski when they could just sign Brown or Taylor or both? Because it's a more efficient use of their cap space. They can sign Brown and draft Skoronski and have a reasonably-priced line going forward instead of allocated a ton of cap to just the tackle position, because is Fields develops well, he's gonna end up getting paid. Moore eats into their surplus of cap space. Claypool and Kmet are both upcoming FAs next year. Their infinite cap space this year is significantly less 2 or 3 years down the road, so there's no need to spend frivolously on one position now, especially to do so to grab a guy with character concerns from a program that is loaded with them. Yeah, problem is when you have a QB you are sure on, we are entering Y3 of Fields and if he turns out what they expect they are going have to pay him sooner than later Can't afford to tie up cap space but you still do have a few seasons to play with
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Post by sfvega on Mar 10, 2023 18:58:25 GMT -5
Because it's a more efficient use of their cap space. They can sign Brown and draft Skoronski and have a reasonably-priced line going forward instead of allocated a ton of cap to just the tackle position, because is Fields develops well, he's gonna end up getting paid. Moore eats into their surplus of cap space. Claypool and Kmet are both upcoming FAs next year. Their infinite cap space this year is significantly less 2 or 3 years down the road, so there's no need to spend frivolously on one position now, especially to do so to grab a guy with character concerns from a program that is loaded with them. Yeah, problem is when you have a QB you are sure on, we are entering Y3 of Fields and if he turns out what they expect they are going have to pay him sooner than later Can't afford to tie up cap space but you still do have a few seasons to play with You do, but you don't really want to paint yourself into a corner with space. They have outs as well if they want to move a contract down the line, they can use that draft capital to move a contract if they have to. But even with knowing how bad the Bears need to invest in their uniquely atrocious line, it's hard to commit so much cap to one spot knowing that you have to re-sign your TE, re-sign or sign a different #2 WR, hopefully extend Fields two off-seasons from now, have holes on the defense. If you signed Brown and Taylor, that's what? 40 mil a year in space? Over that maybe? It's a drop in the bucket this offseason, but two years from now it won't be.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 10, 2023 19:01:28 GMT -5
Yeah, problem is when you have a QB you are sure on, we are entering Y3 of Fields and if he turns out what they expect they are going have to pay him sooner than later Can't afford to tie up cap space but you still do have a few seasons to play with You do, but you don't really want to paint yourself into a corner with space. They have outs as well if they want to move a contract down the line, they can use that draft capital to move a contract if they have to. But even with knowing how bad the Bears need to invest in their uniquely atrocious line, it's hard to commit so much cap to one spot knowing that you have to re-sign your TE, re-sign or sign a different #2 WR, hopefully extend Fields two off-seasons from now, have holes on the defense. If you signed Brown and Taylor, that's what? 40 mil a year in space? Over that maybe? It's a drop in the bucket this offseason, but two years from now it won't be. Oh no don't get me wrong, they need to spend money now on an O-Line to really see if Fields is that guy for them Right now they are in a great spot. Still got a young very good QB but who is to say God forbid an injury stops Fields or even if he is ass and they have another bad year. They could be in a market for a QB with a much better team to surround a young or vet QB with so they def got to spend that money now otherwise they won't have a chance to soon
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Post by Perd on Mar 10, 2023 19:18:37 GMT -5
This trade also provides insurance if Fields doesn’t show the progress you’d like. If he’s still struggling, as a passer, even with a better cast around him, you'll have the assets, in 2024, at taking another shot at getting your franchise QB. Obviously, I hope that’s not the cas. I hope Fields proves worthy of the faith the Bears just showed in him. And they use all these picks to build a Super Bowl caliber roster.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 10, 2023 19:21:00 GMT -5
You do, but you don't really want to paint yourself into a corner with space. They have outs as well if they want to move a contract down the line, they can use that draft capital to move a contract if they have to. But even with knowing how bad the Bears need to invest in their uniquely atrocious line, it's hard to commit so much cap to one spot knowing that you have to re-sign your TE, re-sign or sign a different #2 WR, hopefully extend Fields two off-seasons from now, have holes on the defense. If you signed Brown and Taylor, that's what? 40 mil a year in space? Over that maybe? It's a drop in the bucket this offseason, but two years from now it won't be. Oh no don't get me wrong, they need to spend money now on an O-Line to really see if Fields is that guy for them Right now they are in a great spot. Still got a young very good QB but who is to say God forbid an injury stops Fields or even if he is ass and they have another bad year. They could be in a market for a QB with a much better team to surround a young or vet QB with so they def got to spend that money now otherwise they won't have a chance to soon If I'm the Bears, I think their top two targets should be Orlando Brown and Ben Powers. Their interior OL was just as bad as their tackles, maybe worse. And good guards are underpaid, honestly. You lock down that left side and it's less expensive than signing two tackles, knowing you shouldn't pay a premium for a RT when the market is probably going to pay him like a low-end LT.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 10, 2023 19:22:42 GMT -5
This trade also provides insurance if Fields doesn’t show the progress you’d like. If he’s still struggling, as a passer, even with a better cast around him, you'll have the assets, in 2024, at taking another shot at getting your franchise QB. Obviously, I hope that’s not the cas. I hope Fields proves worthy of the faith the Bears just showed in him. And they use all these picks to build a Super Bowl caliber roster. Not sure how you or the rest of the people up north feel about him, but I think a Fields that isn't running for his life and is surrounded by talent is going to be a franchise QB. There is risk, but I think he's the guy.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 10, 2023 21:10:29 GMT -5
So I guess the Sam Darnold Era in Carolina is over. They may still look for a bridge/mentor type. Sure, Dalton and Bridgewater feels more suited for that role, but they might bring him back on a cheap deal.
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Post by bob on Mar 10, 2023 21:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Mar 10, 2023 22:12:48 GMT -5
Good haul for the bears and realistically they could do what Miami did after the Lance trade and trade back up if a player they truly love starts to fall a bit. Either way if Fields keeps getting better and you don't bungle what could be 2 top 10 picks from Carolina than the future is good in Chicago. Who knows maybe it's gonna be the bears running the NFC North for the next 15 years instead of the Packers
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Post by bob on Mar 10, 2023 23:15:01 GMT -5
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 11, 2023 10:48:32 GMT -5
I was expecting the Bears to get an RGIII type return of 3 firsts. But I think that was hindered a bit by Bryce not being close to 6 foot. I like the Moore acquisition as it brings in someone in their prime who they don't have to wait on developing. I bet they're praying that Skoronski is there at #9. I think they should have pushed for a 3rd in 2024, especially considering they took the Niners 2nd this year as oppposed to the Panthers' pick. But overall a good deal, especially since I think Stroud has the higher ceiling. Last year teams offered 1st round picks for Moore, so his market value is at least a first. This means that they got a better haul than first glance suggests.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Mar 11, 2023 13:58:50 GMT -5
Saw that former Vikings coach Bud Grant died at 95.
Dude was out there in Minnesota winter in a short-sleeved shirt at one of their playoff games before the dome.
RIP
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Mar 12, 2023 13:08:55 GMT -5
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Mar 12, 2023 13:14:21 GMT -5
Man f*** the Dolphins said I the Jets fan.
But objective talk, Dolphins if Tua can stay healthy are going to be very scary this season. As for the Rams, we'll with this and the rumors that they want to move Stafford it seems as if they're heading for a rebuild
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