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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 23:50:57 GMT -5
This is like having the choice of who to take the final shot in an NBA finals. Kobe Bryant Or Kwame Brown And HHH thinks Kwame Brown is the golden ticket.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 2, 2023 23:51:01 GMT -5
I think tonight was the perfect dedication to Dusty, the red hot Babyface got screwed over by a tried and true finish that has been done 20 times so a story could continue to be told.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2023 23:51:33 GMT -5
What a f***ing load of shit tbh Jey is not only a shit human being who doesn't deserve to be rewarded for it, but the fact they threw Sami AND Cody to the wolves for him just illustrates no one else f***ing mattered in this story but The Bloodline. Why is he a shit human being? He had a DUI arrest like 5 years ago but I don’t think there’s been anything else that’s come out about him is there (unlike Jimmy). I usually couple both of the Uso's in with this, and both have frustrated me with it, so if Jey's been good for awhile that's good to hear But my second point stands, not interested in this at all, especially for the people and moments it'd have cost to get there, just not worth it imo
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 2, 2023 23:52:36 GMT -5
The most talented people that were released or left were already signed by AEW so he was mostly signing the scraps for returns. And there was plenty of stories and talent over at Mania this weekend outside of the Bloodline angle. Fact is HHH's booking has been pretty shit, from returns to callups, his two biggest focuses since getting control in in Damage CTRL and Cody both collapsed this weekend, and it doesn't make him look good, let alone all the people he's brought back all just being bodies for top stars to catch It's just really not been a great showing of him as a booker, he lost a lot of people tonight, for good reason None of what you said is actually a “fact” as you stated lol
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2023 23:52:44 GMT -5
Yep, I think so. Those moments wouldn’t be so big and the crowd wouldn’t care so much if he wasn’t. They cared because they saw a great end to a story And when it didn't happen the air went out of the place. So... yeah I would say no, he isn't, not when it mattered most.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 2, 2023 23:52:44 GMT -5
He is, if they're willingly to pull the trigger and build to SummerSlam. If they cave to message boards who just want a new champion for the sake of a new champion, Roman loses sooner. I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had.
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Post by BRV on Apr 2, 2023 23:53:39 GMT -5
Yep, I think so. Those moments wouldn’t be so big and the crowd wouldn’t care so much if he wasn’t. I agree. As much as I loathe the decision that was made tonight, Roman Reigns has been THE main eventer for two-plus years. That’s not for no reason.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2023 23:53:39 GMT -5
Fact is HHH's booking has been pretty shit, from returns to callups, his two biggest focuses since getting control in in Damage CTRL and Cody both collapsed this weekend, and it doesn't make him look good, let alone all the people he's brought back all just being bodies for top stars to catch It's just really not been a great showing of him as a booker, he lost a lot of people tonight, for good reason None of what you said is actually a “fact” as you stated lol Neither is anything you say I guess lol, was more an expression than me trying to spell out a fact, it's my opinion on the matter and how I see it.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 2, 2023 23:54:27 GMT -5
Fact is HHH's booking has been pretty shit, from returns to callups, his two biggest focuses since getting control in in Damage CTRL and Cody both collapsed this weekend, and it doesn't make him look good, let alone all the people he's brought back all just being bodies for top stars to catch It's just really not been a great showing of him as a booker, he lost a lot of people tonight, for good reason None of what you said is actually a “fact” as you stated lol Your commitment to defend everything WWE does is admirable I'll give you that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2023 23:54:37 GMT -5
Yep, I think so. Those moments wouldn’t be so big and the crowd wouldn’t care so much if he wasn’t. I agree. As much as I loathe the decision that was made tonight, Roman Reigns has been THE main eventer for two-plus years. That’s not for no reason. That's not HHH either given two of the three years Vince was in charge so... not the greatest flex on any account lol
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Post by The Trashman on Apr 2, 2023 23:54:54 GMT -5
They did a finish Dusty would be proud of in match where it was about who he loved more and the answer was the booker. Cody will get his because of the finish of the match calls for it, probably leading to the belts being spilt, the only question is who will be left in the back? It was WrestleMania, your biggest show of the year and the storyline you've been building to and you pull that kind of spite ending? It's like Stallone having Rocky lose in the first minute in the fight against Apollo and justify it by saying he'll beat Spider Rico during the credits. Uh Rocky didn't win the first fight
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 2, 2023 23:55:32 GMT -5
He is, if they're willingly to pull the trigger and build to SummerSlam. If they cave to message boards who just want a new champion for the sake of a new champion, Roman loses sooner. I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. Sami, Cody and Drew are still big stars that wouldn’t really be any bigger if they’d won the title. Especially since Cody and Sami likely will be world champ within a year.
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Post by XIII on Apr 2, 2023 23:56:26 GMT -5
They’re doing great as a company, but if you take away the Bloodline angle and look at everything else that HHH has booked he’s got a low batting average for sure. Of all of the big returns that he brought back they’ve pretty much all failed for one reason or another. The most talented people that were released or left were already signed by AEW so he was mostly signing the scraps for returns. And there was plenty of stories and talent over at Mania this weekend outside of the Bloodline angle. I didn’t say that people weren’t over. A lot of people are over but it’s mostly because people like them even though their stories are lacking most of the time. He has a low batting average not zero. I’d put him the 50/50 range. Sheamus, Drew, and Gunther are very over even though how they got to the triple threat was not great because everyone knows they’re going to deliver. The men’s tag was over because they went out there and went HAM, etc. As for the returns whether they were scraps or not he positioned them to be big deals and they failed a good Booker doesn’t do that. Damage CTRL has been more or less fodder for others, Kross came back and was immediately doing stuff with Drew when Drew was in the main event every week until everyone said hell no, Bray came back and was wack AF and disappeared again, Lumis showed up and got a good spot with Gargano and the Miz and that didn’t work, etc.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 2, 2023 23:56:26 GMT -5
None of what you said is actually a “fact” as you stated lol Your commitment to defend everything WWE does is admirable I'll give you that. Don’t start that garbage please
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 2, 2023 23:56:43 GMT -5
He is, if they're willingly to pull the trigger and build to SummerSlam. If they cave to message boards who just want a new champion for the sake of a new champion, Roman loses sooner. I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. I don't know either, but as I said a weekish or so ago in some thread on here, the Bloodline needs to tear itself apart. The Mega-Powers EXPLODED, they didn't limp away. With the right build, Jey can make a go of it, he won't have the organic push of Sami or the manufactured goodwill of Cody, but it can be done as to be a satisfying conclusion in the absence of the Rock, who is the natural end point.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 2, 2023 23:56:56 GMT -5
He is, if they're willingly to pull the trigger and build to SummerSlam. If they cave to message boards who just want a new champion for the sake of a new champion, Roman loses sooner. I just don't know if Jey can become the star that Sami, Cody, or Drew could/would have been. Jey has had his moments where he's shown himself to be a great babyface don't get me wrong, I just don't know if they'll get the same combo of circumstances that would have been slam dunks as they had. Jey is a star because of this story and this story alone. Drew, Sami and Cody are stars either way. If this is all to give a title to Jey, man.
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Post by mc74 on Apr 2, 2023 23:57:11 GMT -5
Here's the issue with this statement. WWE has made it perfectly clear that everything revolves around Mania and maybe Summerslam. You literally built up this story and bypassed both Drew and Sami winning at events that made an insane amount of sense to tell this story and to now push a stupid catch phrase for this match. It doesn't matter when/if Cody dethrones Roman as you missed the perfect time with the perfect crowd to do the switch Precisely, there's no better opportunity to finish the story of Cody's triumphant return than to have him win on the grand stage. This was their chance to establish Cody as their next top babyface and they bungled it big time.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Apr 2, 2023 23:58:51 GMT -5
This is like having the choice of who to take the final shot in an NBA finals. Kobe Bryant Or Kwame Brown And HHH thinks Kwame Brown is the golden ticket. There is also the fact that fans are generally fatigued of the story itself. They probably could do a good job of building Jey, but you can't infinitely add to the "rising action" part of a story. At some point, people are just going to be less invested.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 2, 2023 23:59:22 GMT -5
I agree. As much as I loathe the decision that was made tonight, Roman Reigns has been THE main eventer for two-plus years. That’s not for no reason. That's not HHH either given two of the three years Vince was in charge so... not the greatest flex on any account lol The original post was me saying Reigns is that good. Nothing to do with HHH
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Post by Cyno on Apr 2, 2023 23:59:30 GMT -5
Your commitment to defend everything WWE does is admirable I'll give you that. Don’t start that garbage please Doesn't feel so good, does it?
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