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Post by firsttimelongtime on Apr 3, 2023 22:15:42 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. The idea of WWE booking Hangman Page makes my brain hurts.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 3, 2023 22:35:07 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. I’d be surprised. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 22:38:32 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. I’d doubt it. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster. If you say so.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 3, 2023 22:39:53 GMT -5
I’d doubt it. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster. If you say so. If he gets shot down the card and doesn’t have Raw built around him as the main protagonist as the year goes on, then I’d definitely say that would be a creative red flag for some.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Apr 3, 2023 23:32:32 GMT -5
There will be budget cuts with Endeavor wanting to recoup as much of their outlay as quickly as possible and the newly empowered Vince having different views to HHH as to who is needed. AEW still has roster bloat so they need to be very selective. TK kept the checkbook closed for Braun and Bray so at least he's not Dixie-like with guaranteeing a job for all with WWE on their resume but if (pure speculation) Bayley or Ali got the chop for example those would be no-brainers.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 4, 2023 0:04:25 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. I imagined Kenny Omega signing a new deal so fast that the pen was smoking and his brow was sweating lmfao
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Apr 4, 2023 0:07:15 GMT -5
Outside of picking up some office cuts and maybe the occasional talent cut, I don't see this having any real effect on AEW.
AEW shouldn't keep themselves up at night worrying about what WWE is doing.
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Post by lionheart21 on Apr 4, 2023 0:20:19 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. FTR is in the process of sending a truckload of fruit baskets to Tony Khan as we speak
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Post by Dan Royal on Apr 4, 2023 3:36:56 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. I’d be surprised. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster.
Yeah Cody, you just won the Royal Rumble and headlined an a sold out football stadium. Don't you wish you were still in AEW feuding with Anthony Ogogo?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 4, 2023 6:25:54 GMT -5
If anything the booking of Cody last night might make some AEW wrestlers think twice before deciding to go to WWE. I’d be surprised. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster. The problem isn't in my mind if 99% of the AEW roster would be cool with that push; it's that Cody was the top 1% of the AEW in terms of star profile. I'm sure 99% of the AEW roster would love to main event a Wrestlemania at all, title win or not, but this isn't the push they'd have offered Sammy Guevara. Cody's ceilign is going to be pretty informative of what anyone else can get not because that's where they can get too, but because there's really no way to think they aren't going to come in significantly lower.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 4, 2023 6:48:54 GMT -5
Welp, I think a certain miserable middle-aged asshole just got all his leverage back after the last night's shitshow.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 4, 2023 7:27:13 GMT -5
I’d be surprised. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster. The problem isn't in my mind if 99% of the AEW roster would be cool with that push; it's that Cody was the top 1% of the AEW in terms of star profile. I'm sure 99% of the AEW roster would love to main event a Wrestlemania at all, title win or not, but this isn't the push they'd have offered Sammy Guevara. Cody's ceilign is going to be pretty informative of what anyone else can get not because that's where they can get too, but because there's really no way to think they aren't going to come in significantly lower. I think to be totally fair, we're not going to really know until we see the result of this feud. If Brock beats Cody, then yes, we're in the danger zone. If Cody beats Brock, that shows me that they're still willing to invest in the guy. I realize this is all happening in the context of the rest of the company being set on fire, but it's still something to consider.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 4, 2023 8:27:27 GMT -5
If Endeavour shifts the debt incurred by the UFC and WWE purchases onto the combined entity, there will suddenly be a lot more talent, both office and performer available for AEW and others to pick from. $15 billion or so of debt is not a hole the will claw free of without big budget cuts.
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Post by honsou on Apr 4, 2023 8:33:25 GMT -5
It really depends on how involved Endeavor really is. UFC pays their talent like crap but is much more willing to let people go and laughs when people decide to go to other promotions for more money. They'd be much less willing to just pay people infinite money to hang around catering. On the other hand if they just assume Vince knows what he's doing and hand him a blank check we may just see more of the same.
Either way its probably better for AEW because it either gives them a much less hostile competitor or a clear contrast with Vince being Vince
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2023 8:36:33 GMT -5
The problem isn't in my mind if 99% of the AEW roster would be cool with that push; it's that Cody was the top 1% of the AEW in terms of star profile. I'm sure 99% of the AEW roster would love to main event a Wrestlemania at all, title win or not, but this isn't the push they'd have offered Sammy Guevara. Cody's ceilign is going to be pretty informative of what anyone else can get not because that's where they can get too, but because there's really no way to think they aren't going to come in significantly lower. I think to be totally fair, we're not going to really know until we see the result of this feud. If Brock beats Cody, then yes, we're in the danger zone. If Cody beats Brock, that shows me that they're still willing to invest in the guy. I realize this is all happening in the context of the rest of the company being set on fire, but it's still something to consider. That’s where I’m at. Cody is still the main protagonist on Raw, and appears like he’ll continue being that going forward.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2023 8:38:54 GMT -5
I’d be surprised. He main evented the most successful Mania in history and was protected in defeat. And he’s now feuding with Lesnar. These aren’t bad spots to be in for like 99% of the AEW roster. The problem isn't in my mind if 99% of the AEW roster would be cool with that push; it's that Cody was the top 1% of the AEW in terms of star profile. I'm sure 99% of the AEW roster would love to main event a Wrestlemania at all, title win or not, but this isn't the push they'd have offered Sammy Guevara. Cody's ceilign is going to be pretty informative of what anyone else can get not because that's where they can get too, but because there's really no way to think they aren't going to come in significantly lower. Cody is in a higher position in WWE than he was in AEW. He’s in the top 1% of WWE right now as well. I really don’t think Cody losing at Mania will have a huge effect on decisions of talent. Now if Vince continues to meddle in creative and be more hands on then I think that could have the bigger effect on certain talent wanting to be there (mostly those that aren’t the huge stars of AEW). Rumors were that Jay White was not interested in WWE if Vince was going to be coming back to creative, and not sure if he signed already with either company but I’d guess he’s ticketed for AEW if he still has the option.
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Post by clifford on Apr 4, 2023 8:55:31 GMT -5
I think to be totally fair, we're not going to really know until we see the result of this feud. If Brock beats Cody, then yes, we're in the danger zone. If Cody beats Brock, that shows me that they're still willing to invest in the guy. I realize this is all happening in the context of the rest of the company being set on fire, but it's still something to consider. That’s where I’m at. Cody is still the main protagonist on Raw, and appears like he’ll continue being that going forward. Yeah no doubt, he is still in a very privileged and envious position in terms of card position; I just think a lot of people know the start of a de-emphasis in WWE when we see one. Cody not getting his big coronation despite all signs pointing to it, to him basically thanking Roman for cheating to beat him, to pivoting to a feud with Brock, is an eerily familiar trajectory that a lot of WWE stars who flirted with the top of the card only to slide down into midcard obscurity have gotten over the years. He could lose to Brock and be fighting Ziggler in a 7 minute match at Summerslam just as easily as beating Brock and winning the title off Roman at Summerslam is what I'm getting at. I hope its the latter but with Vince seemingly back in the big chair who knows?
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 4, 2023 9:05:52 GMT -5
Welp, I think a certain miserable middle-aged asshole just got all his leverage back after the last night's shitshow. Or maybe it's the other way around. Maybe a company that has both UFC and WWE under its belt and Vince at the helm again looks less appealing and suddenly AEW looks better. Who knows how that mind works? Sometimes, I don't think even he knows how his mind works.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 4, 2023 9:05:53 GMT -5
That’s where I’m at. Cody is still the main protagonist on Raw, and appears like he’ll continue being that going forward. Yeah no doubt, he is still in a very privileged and envious position in terms of card position; I just think a lot of people know the start of a de-emphasis in WWE when we see one. Cody not getting his big coronation despite all signs pointing to it, to him basically thanking Roman for cheating to beat him, to pivoting to a feud with Brock, is an eerily familiar trajectory that a lot of WWE stars who flirted with the top of the card only to slide down into midcard obscurity have gotten over the years. He could lose to Brock and be fighting Ziggler in a 7 minute match at Summerslam just as easily as beating Brock and winning the title off Roman at Summerslam is what I'm getting at. I hope its the latter but with Vince seemingly back in the big chair who knows? Right, and if he is in the 7 minute Ziggler match at Summerslam, then I don’t think there’ll be a doubt that they messed him up long-term. That’s not my expectation right now, though.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 4, 2023 9:16:05 GMT -5
Welp, I think a certain miserable middle-aged asshole just got all his leverage back after the last night's shitshow. Or maybe it's the other way around. Maybe a company that has both UFC and WWE under its belt and Vince at the helm again looks less appealing and suddenly AEW looks better. Who knows how that mind works? Sometimes, I don't think even he knows how his mind works. I was looking at it from the perspective that now that there's no way that Kenny and the Bucks will leave now that WWE is Vinceland again, they can't play the "it's him or us" card with Tony anymore.
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