Fade
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Post by Fade on Aug 5, 2023 10:58:41 GMT -5
Why do people always wait to call Khan "Thin Skinned" for a response when HHH is the one who called the promotion secondary on television in front of the world? It was a shit thing to do and Khan is right to flex how good All In is doing, that HHH comment was lame and had no reason to even be said. AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. Lol, this. They both seem like they passively aggressively loathe the other, but good look getting any tribalistic fan on either side seeing that.
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kidkamikaze10
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Aug 5, 2023 12:18:27 GMT -5
Why do people always wait to call Khan "Thin Skinned" for a response when HHH is the one who called the promotion secondary on television in front of the world? It was a shit thing to do and Khan is right to flex how good All In is doing, that HHH comment was lame and had no reason to even be said. AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR.
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Post by eJm on Aug 5, 2023 12:22:47 GMT -5
AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR. Like if anything, when Vince is actually the one taking the shots ("Blood and Guts" anyone?) or anyone in management is doing it, then that's when you know he's genuinely rattled.
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Kalmia
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 5, 2023 13:01:27 GMT -5
Look at Khan, defending his pissant company*
*Credit: Triple H
IMO, AEW's digs at WWE been more numerous but WWE's digs at AEW are more pointed. Either way, it's equal parts funny and slightly pathetic on both sides.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 5, 2023 13:58:21 GMT -5
I don't recall many digs at WWE until they started moving time slots to compete and referring to "pissant company" and "t-shirt company". WWE, specifically Triple H, opened that door and started punching down.
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Post by eJm on Aug 5, 2023 14:23:49 GMT -5
I don't recall many digs at WWE until they started moving time slots to compete and referring to "pissant company" and "t-shirt company". WWE, specifically Triple H, opened that door and started punching down. If anything, a lot of the talk was TK being open to working with WWE and Stephanie vaguely saying that they can work with "other companies" which didn't lead to anything except them basically making that deal with Impact to get Mickie James in. Then TK all but said they were hard to work with on various stuff outside of Jericho and Bryan appearing in stuff and things kicked off more.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 5, 2023 14:41:08 GMT -5
Triple H - This isn't developmental. This is not even WWE. This is NXT.
- NXT loses to Dynamite -
Triple H - Big whoop, they beat our developmental.
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Post by eJm on Aug 5, 2023 14:43:52 GMT -5
Triple H - This isn't developmental. This is not even WWE. This is NXT. - NXT loses to Dynamite - Triple H - Big whoop, they beat our developmental. Yeah, stuff like that is always stuff that could be fixed by saying it different but saying it that way comes off as petty and unneeded but that applies to all of business for the most part. It's much easier to blame everyone else or degrade a success than taking some kind of blame and wanting to improve in the future.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 5, 2023 15:29:17 GMT -5
AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR. Not to mention the stuff they've done that stands as significantly worse than 'shots'. Remember when they had that unfortunately timed Dominos ad picture-in-picture with Nick Gage pizza cutter-ing Jericho? The story got some pickup from actual journalists, and one journalist singled out that it was their go-to WWE person who was trying to push the story. So like yeah WWE usually doesn't feel trhe need to dedicate airtime to insulting AEW. That doesn't mean they aren't absolutely doing shit behind the curtain; their ability to wage a proxy war runs a lot deeper than just having podcast guys who they do business with act as mouthpieces. Tony Khan might say "Yeah f*** that comment" but he's never tried to cause a problem between the other guy and their advertisers.
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Post by jm on Aug 5, 2023 16:52:42 GMT -5
People try to make it seem like it's AEW's fault that WWE takes potshots at them. That because AEW takes shots at WWE, WWE deserves to take shots in return. That is laughable. If AEW never ever took a shot at WWE, do people seriously think that WWE would never ever take a shot at AEW? AEW incured WWE's hatred the moment it was formed. WWE specifically put NXT head to head against them right from the start. The people trying to make us feel sorry for WWE in this regard are ridiculous.
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Post by jm on Aug 5, 2023 16:55:19 GMT -5
Mans is thin skinned beyond belief. Good grief "How dare Tony Khan try to crush the HHH narrative that AEW is a secondary company!! If Tony tries to refute HHH's comment, he's thin skinned!! He's supposed to agree with HHH and say that AEW sucks!!!"
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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 5, 2023 17:14:04 GMT -5
Mans is thin skinned beyond belief. Good grief What did you want him to say? It's like people getting mad when a sports player guarantees their team victory. It makes no sense
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 5, 2023 17:43:44 GMT -5
I still tend to believe it was Punk mostly because of his weird last promo he cut when he was like "I know, I know, we all love him, BUT I WAS THE REVOLUTION!".
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Post by mattyy on Aug 5, 2023 18:10:40 GMT -5
I still tend to believe it was Punk mostly because of his weird last promo he cut when he was like "I know, I know, we all love him, BUT I WAS THE REVOLUTION!". Lest we forget that Cody wanted the money Punk was getting. That's the personal issue. He built AEW, in his mind, and someone gets to come in and make more than him. I don't disagree with his stance from his standpoint. I'd do the same
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 5, 2023 18:13:54 GMT -5
AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR. More cheeseboards?
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 5, 2023 18:34:21 GMT -5
WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR. Not to mention the stuff they've done that stands as significantly worse than 'shots'. Remember when they had that unfortunately timed Dominos ad picture-in-picture with Nick Gage pizza cutter-ing Jericho? The story got some pickup from actual journalists, and one journalist singled out that it was their go-to WWE person who was trying to push the story. So like yeah WWE usually doesn't feel trhe need to dedicate airtime to insulting AEW. That doesn't mean they aren't absolutely doing shit behind the curtain; their ability to wage a proxy war runs a lot deeper than just having podcast guys who they do business with act as mouthpieces. Tony Khan might say "Yeah f*** that comment" but he's never tried to cause a problem between the other guy and their advertisers. And as I remember saying many, many times in the past: people being all touchy about competitors saying some shit about one another and saying they don't want to support whatever over it makes me wonder if they've ever had a Pepsi, visited a Six Flags, owned a Sega Genesis or a Sony Playstation (the original one), or used stomach relief that wasn't Pepto Bismol, because all of those companies/competitors have made commercials saying how they beat the big industry leaders in some way, shape, or form. I see it being an issue if the shots taken end up harming the overall show being put on, like WCW having the Oklahoma character or people cutting repetitive promos about "the competition", and I agree that once you start doing things like intentionally trying to sabotage the competition or screw with their advertisers like that then it moves into scummy territory, but otherwise?
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 5, 2023 18:40:20 GMT -5
Also, I just have to point this out: most of the anti-WWE shots in the early days of AEW were being taken by the guy in the documentary.
Kenny Omega wasn't the one who said "you can't counter-program us", that was Cody.
The Young Bucks weren't the ones who said "we won't run in Saudi Arabia because we actually care about our talents", that was Cody (and guess who went and wrestled on a Saudi show? Lol).
Hangman isn't the one who smashed the throne, that was Cody.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Cody's the one who poisoned the discourse well in the first place, and now he wants to pretend the water's safe to drink.
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Post by Fade on Aug 5, 2023 18:51:50 GMT -5
I still tend to believe it was Punk mostly because of his weird last promo he cut when he was like "I know, I know, we all love him, BUT I WAS THE REVOLUTION!". He did say he told Phil about that beforehand because he doesn’t believe in “blindsiding “ people.
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Post by KME on Aug 5, 2023 18:52:14 GMT -5
Nobody saying it "isn't a dig at AEW" is right tbh, just because it has truth to it doesn't make it not a dig. Trips has a history of taking digs at AEW and coming off insecure about them, and AEW having taken shots at WWE in the past doesn't really change that. I would think AEW would acknowledge that they were digs that they've made, they're not exactly always subtle about them and they set up a company in large part because they didn't like what WWE put on screen and the way they operate, it shouldn't surprise anyone they'd take shots at them, though they do seem to have toned it down this year in particular. If you're going to make a dig, own it, nobody needs to be defending HHH saying he was just making a factual observation, he knew exactly what he was saying and how he was saying it probably with the mindset WWE have towards other companies which involves things like trying to stop them using certain buildings or trying to destroy the indies so they have a monopoly on talent in certain areas. I don't even blame Trips for having a dig, if that's what he wants to do, go for it, no matter how needless it seems given WWE's position in the industry, as I said it's not like AEW haven't had a dig at them, but it's a dig whatever way you look at it.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 5, 2023 19:58:31 GMT -5
AEW has taken more shots at WWE than WWE has taken at AEW, Especially on air. Neither company are innocent when it comes to taking shots. What HHH said wasn't wrong, and imo wasn't taken a shot at AEW. Both sides can be right in this. People who say this isn't a big deal and not dig at AEW, are right imo. And people who say that Kahn should take up for his company if he felt it was a dig, are also correct imo. WWE doesn’t have to take shots. They can have other people do it for them. And they have done that to even their former employees, nevermind their biggest competition since WCW. It’s a Vince tactic that has become the company’s modus operandi when it comes to PR. More cheeseboards?
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