Mox/Fenix Discussion Thread

[Chuck Conry]

Was that title change supposed to happen?

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Sept 20, 2023 21:42:20 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

Was that title change supposed to happen?

Likely not, but Mox called an audible and let Fenix have the moment

Usually when a wrestler does that they know they're hurt enough that they're gonna need to miss a bit. If Mox got a concussion as is being reported, he's likely resting a few weeks minimum and decided Fenix would get the rub

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Why do the move again when Mox head is f***ed. That was a bad mistake

[JoDaNa1281]

Also, Knox absolutely should've counted the 3 after the first driver.

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Sept 20, 2023 21:52:54 GMT -5 JoDaNa1281 said:

Also, Knox absolutely should've counted the 3 after the first driver.

It's not the first time we've seen a ref freeze up after a planned kickout goes wrong. I assume he didn't know something was up and Mox probably didn't call the audible until that moment.

I assume Mox just decided "Do it again" after the freeze up because he didn't want the finish to look like shit

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Sept 20, 2023 21:52:47 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Why do the move again when Mox head is f***ed. That was a bad mistake

Mox called for it apparently

Not saying it was right but Mox apparently audibly said "Do it again" because if I assume the freeze on the 2 count

[Cyno]

As referee, Knox really f***ed that up. Like that was amateur stuff there. Count the pin even if it's not the scripted ending. Because there was clearly a reason Mox wasn't trying to kick out. Yeah, Mox called for the second move. But the concussed guy isn't in the best state of mind to be deciding that.

At the very least, call an audible and declare Fenix winner via TKO.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Sept 20, 2023 21:55:30 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 20, 2023 21:52:47 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Why do the move again when Mox head is f***ed. That was a bad mistake

Mox called for it apparently

Not saying it was right but Mox apparently audibly said "Do it again" because if I assume the freeze on the 2 count

ThT was a bad move from someone already loopy on their feet. Like I would yelled at the ref or something cause that’s dangerous. I’m guessing Fenix didn’t know it was his head cause they would could went to a tap out or something to protect Mox more

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Sept 20, 2023 21:58:39 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Sept 20, 2023 21:55:30 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mox called for it apparently

Not saying it was right but Mox apparently audibly said "Do it again" because if I assume the freeze on the 2 count

ThT was a bad move from someone already loopy on their feet. Like I would yelled at the ref or something cause that’s dangerous. I’m guessing Fenix didn’t know it was his head cause they would could went to a tap out or something to protect Mox more

I assume Fenix was just doing as he was told yeah, lord knows he wasn't expecting to have the win of his career in those ten seconds...

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

Sept 20, 2023 21:42:20 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

Was that title change supposed to happen?

By the sound of things, no. Likely they were going to have Mox hold it for a while until the inevitable rematch with Orange.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Hell, if you had to tack on a finish, just throw him in a kneebar and call it a day.

[markymark]

Just let Mox take a break and dont rush his return...

[HIM]

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Sept 20, 2023 23:54:30 GMT -5 HIM said:

Super glad it was minor, dude's really tough as hell

[Bang Bang Bart]

All injury stuff aside, it's interesting that the man who ended the longest-reigning International Champion's run ended up being the shortest-reigning International Champion with a two and a half week run.

[Dave the Dave]

He seemed loopy after the very first dive. Glad it’s seemingly minor.

[mrpeacock]

Rick Knox should be talked to for a long time after that. You can see Mox yell “f*** You!” to Knox after he doesn’t count the 3. Hes been a ref for way to long for that kind of stuff to be getting by. Also Mox and Fenix should’ve known better than to do 2 head drop moves on a guy with a concussion. Just scarily unsafe all around.

[markymark]

Sept 21, 2023 6:40:31 GMT -5 mrpeacock said:

Rick Knox should be talked to for a long time after that. You can see Mox yell “f*** You!” to Knox after he doesn’t count the 3. Hes been a ref for way to long for that kind of stuff to be getting by. Also Mox and Fenix should’ve known better than to do 2 head drop moves on a guy with a concussion. Just scarily unsafe all around.

Knox was also involved when Reynolds got kod by Private Party and when Ruby broke her nose.

[mrpeacock]

Sept 21, 2023 6:45:51 GMT -5 markymark said:

Sept 21, 2023 6:40:31 GMT -5 mrpeacock said:

Rick Knox should be talked to for a long time after that. You can see Mox yell “f*** You!” to Knox after he doesn’t count the 3. Hes been a ref for way to long for that kind of stuff to be getting by. Also Mox and Fenix should’ve known better than to do 2 head drop moves on a guy with a concussion. Just scarily unsafe all around.

Knox was also involved when Reynolds got kod by Private Party and when Ruby broke her nose.

I will never enjoy Knox because of the Alex Reynolds stuff. If it was clear to me as a viewer that he was fully knocked out. I don’t know how Rick Knox just let him have people run around him and run spots without a care. I’m not one to call this out but the dudes literally there because he’s friends with the Bucks. Usually that’s fine because their friends are talented, not the case with Rick Knox.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

Moxley sells so well I think folks just assumed he was just acting punch drunk out there. And he largely made the match work. Obviously Knox should have just counted him out but these things aren't always super easy to spot in the moment. Hindsight is 20/20.