Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Sept 25, 2023 15:07:05 GMT -5
Koko PRe-WWF in Memphis is so good. Him and Bobby Eaton were a great tag team. WWF era Koko is still good but he took it down a step. Don't blame him making big money and working more often with more traveling. He did it smart. KoKo was about 10 years ahead of his time. Him in (or at least close to) his prime would have killed it in mid/late 90's WCW/WWF He could have made a nice living working all over the terriotories too. But the WWF money was big and I don't blame him for going after the money. Like a buddy told me "Get asked all the time who from WWE I would love to wrestle. And they always are naming big guys or guys known to hit hard. I tell them John Cena. Not only will you get paid big cause hee is still a huge draw you also know he will do his standard match and it will be an easy but fun to watch match."
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XIII
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Post by XIII on Sept 25, 2023 15:21:10 GMT -5
Not sure if this counts, but considering he barely won during his WWF career, Koko B. Ware used the Brainbuster as his finisher which was called either the Ghostbuster or the Birdbuster depending on what promotion he was in. Koko's brainbuster looked like absolute death. He also used the flying dropkick off the top that usually looked awesome. The Ghostbuster was the most lethal move in the WWF. Those poor, poor jobbers were getting their necks folded.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 25, 2023 15:38:50 GMT -5
Koko's brainbuster looked like absolute death. He also used the flying dropkick off the top that usually looked awesome. The Ghostbuster was the most lethal move in the WWF. Those poor, poor jobbers were getting their necks folded. Since Koko did win more often than not on weekend shows against jobbers, you did see the Ghostbuster a lot. And the missile dropkick sometimes. I think "Birdbuster" was another WWF Magazine exclusive, it was always Ghostbuster on TV. Now I heard there was two stories behind the choice of name. First it was the 80s so of course movie reference. The other is, well, something race related and as such treading on thin ice here, I guess.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 25, 2023 15:40:43 GMT -5
How about Virgil in his Vincent/Curly Bill days? I THINK he used the cobra clutch again?
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thecrusherwi
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Post by thecrusherwi on Sept 25, 2023 15:59:36 GMT -5
Koko's brainbuster looked like absolute death. He also used the flying dropkick off the top that usually looked awesome. The Ghostbuster was the most lethal move in the WWF. Those poor, poor jobbers were getting their necks folded. Koko B. Ware squashes were always hilarious to me because you had this happy little guy singing and dancing to the ring with a bird, sometimes even painted like a bird himself. Then he'd get to the ring and just hammer guys with these brutal dropkicks and the Ghostbuster, which legit looked like it could''ve killed someone. And then he'd pin their lifeless body while flapping his arms like bird wings. Then as they lay there dead, he'd grab Frankie and sing and dance again. The dichotomy was so funny to me. You have this little Birdman looking like a fun loving innocent dude putting a beating on guys that would make the Road Warriors wince.
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Honeybear Lyder
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Sept 25, 2023 16:08:55 GMT -5
How about Virgil in his Vincent/Curly Bill days? I THINK he used the cobra clutch again? Either this or a fujiwara armbar.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Sept 25, 2023 19:34:23 GMT -5
It's awful; it doesn't look good, it's got an awkward setup, it's poorly executed, it just screams someone who's clearly trying to be different badly rather than trying to do a simple thing competently. I was gonna post that it would be a cool move if the guy doing it wasn't an uncoordinated mess. BUT NOW I WON'T! [runs away] I’m with you. Would probably be pretty cool with a coordinated big man. Someone sent it to OMOS, stat!!!
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Sept 25, 2023 20:01:51 GMT -5
Oh boy I've been waiting for this thread. FEAR the recollections of the guy who used to only be able to watch the WCW jobber shows because he had DSS instead of cable and his parents always monopolized the TV in the evenings so he rarely got to watch Nitro and Thunder and never got to watch ECW Friday Nights.
I used to love it when there would be a JTTS vs JTTS match because then I'd get to see a finisher I almost never saw.
Roadblock's one of my Boys. Always has been. He actually used to win plenty of squash matches on the D shows like WCW Worldwide and WCW Pro. That rope-assisted moonsaulty thing usually looked better than it did in that .gif. And the fall forward slam was called the Dead End Drop. I've said before that I think if Roadblock had gotten his start in the 80s or late 70s he'd have made a good Hulk Hogan opponent. He had an inexplicably good match with Barry Darsow of all people on an episode of WCW Saturday Night.
Other weird finishery things.
The Gambler won the only match I ever saw him win (against Scott Studd aka Scotty Riggs) with a lariat. He clobbered Scotty right in the face with it and it looked like a real potato. Apparently he beat Dave Taylor once but I can't find the match.
Jerry Flynn was an oddball because even though he was mostly a jobber, he was allowed to get offense in and have back and forth matches. He'd often go for an armbar only to have the opponent get a rope break. I had no idea it was his finisher until he submitted Ciclope with it on a Saturday Night episode once.
Speaking of Ciclope, the only match I know of him directly winning in his entire WCW run was against Shiima Nobunaga (CIMA), and he won with a rocking horse hold.
Lizmark Jr. did a handstand, bounce his ankles off the ropes and rebound into a standing moonsault move to get a win on Worldwide. He was in a strange spot where he was protected but never pushed. He actually had a decent win/loss record but all his wins were in trios matches and they were almost never direct wins.
I can't find any record of it but I swear I remember El Dandy winning a singles match with a right haymaker. During that brief period where Silver King and El Dandy were being pushed as Los Fabulosos, they won all their matches I could find with El Dandy's La Magistral.
Jobber Rick Fuller won a couple matches with a standing crescent kick.
Jim Powers is another interesting one because he was like the in-house good guy who won to send crowds away happy for WCW Worldwide. His finisher was a powerslam. Sometimes he teamed with Bobby Walker and Bobby Walker used an actually pretty cool looking rope walking flying clothesline.
Disorderly Conduct went on a short winning streak where their finisher turned out to be the neckbreaker/top rope double sledge combo that usually ended with the pinfall being broken by the other wrestler.
The one guy who wasn't a complete no-name jobber who I couldn't find a single direct win for was Damian. According to cagematch he won a couple matches super early on when he was still Galaxy, but I couldn't find them.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Sept 26, 2023 0:07:48 GMT -5
I want a jobber to be in position to win but can't remember his finisher because he's never gotten to use it before. I remember a time when Disco Inferno was going to debut a new finisher, and had to bring a diagram with him to the ring to remind him how to apply it. I was expecting the "finisher" to be an iron bar that the diagram was rolled around... sadly that never happened.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 26, 2023 0:33:45 GMT -5
I want a jobber to be in position to win but can't remember his finisher because he's never gotten to use it before. Or has a finisher that he boasts about (maybe has a entrance jacket that says "King of the Fisherman Suplex" on the back or something) and then when he gets his chance, just can't apply it because he can't figure out how to do it due to lack of reps. That honestly seemed like Fuego Del Sol's character arc for quite a bit in his AEW tenure with the Tornado DDT.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 26, 2023 1:31:03 GMT -5
Or has a finisher that he boasts about (maybe has a entrance jacket that says "King of the Fisherman Suplex" on the back or something) and then when he gets his chance, just can't apply it because he can't figure out how to do it due to lack of reps. That honestly seemed like Fuego Del Sol's character arc for quite a bit in his AEW tenure with the Tornado DDT. Man, I loved that angle, him striving to hit it and when he did, people lost their minds. Similarly in a way, Hurricane going for the chokeslam for ages before he finally got to hit it and people went nuts.
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 26, 2023 15:42:22 GMT -5
The Ghostbuster was the most lethal move in the WWF. Those poor, poor jobbers were getting their necks folded. Koko B. Ware squashes were always hilarious to me because you had this happy little guy singing and dancing to the ring with a bird, sometimes even painted like a bird himself. Then he'd get to the ring and just hammer guys with these brutal dropkicks and the Ghostbuster, which legit looked like it could''ve killed someone. And then he'd pin their lifeless body while flapping his arms like bird wings. Then as they lay there dead, he'd grab Frankie and sing and dance again. The dichotomy was so funny to me. You have this little Birdman looking like a fun loving innocent dude putting a beating on guys that would make the Road Warriors wince. Funny Enough, Ventura called Koko sick on commentary for using the Brainbuster yet being a happy go lucky guy. Because seriously, Kokomo has a top 5 Barinbuster of all time.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Sept 27, 2023 10:29:26 GMT -5
The few times Jim Neidhart put anybody away in his singles run, he used a JYD Thump-like powerslam. During Jim's very brief WCW run in 93 he used a Cobra Clutch that he called the Anvil-izer.
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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 27, 2023 10:55:41 GMT -5
Zack Ryder had the Ruff Ryder.
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Post by fg on Sept 27, 2023 11:57:39 GMT -5
Did Frank Williams (the guy who was antagonized by Roddy Piper on Pipers Pit) ever have a finisher? WWE Raw magazine when they did a Fantasy Warfare match with him and Kane (no I’m not joking) said that they didn’t know because the WWE fan base never saw it.
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Soultastic
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Post by Soultastic on Sept 27, 2023 13:57:35 GMT -5
What exactly was the second Sin Cara's finisher? He stopped using La Mistica and then he just lost forever.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Sept 27, 2023 14:38:04 GMT -5
Koko PRe-WWF in Memphis is so good. Him and Bobby Eaton were a great tag team. WWF era Koko is still good but he took it down a step. Don't blame him making big money and working more often with more traveling. He did it smart. KoKo was about 10 years ahead of his time. Him in (or at least close to) his prime would have killed it in mid/late 90's WCW/WWF That’s why I’ve never had a problem with him being in the Hall Of Fame. He may not be a big name with a lot of accomplishments, but he was an innovator.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Sept 27, 2023 19:51:19 GMT -5
These days I'm more surprised when I know what a wrestler's finisher is, since it ends the match so rarely.
Like, Buckshot Lariat, Rainmaker, One Winged Angel, I think that's about it.
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Gunhaver
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Post by Gunhaver on Sept 27, 2023 20:19:53 GMT -5
I see this and all I can think of is the awkward way divas sometimes flipped over the ropes as an entrance. Roadblock is a middling diva.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Sept 27, 2023 20:31:47 GMT -5
What exactly was the second Sin Cara's finisher? He stopped using La Mistica and then he just lost forever. I want to say he was using a Swanton Bomb, but it's not like Hunicara won many matches.
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