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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 17, 2023 13:57:06 GMT -5
Including any officially released movie in the Star Wars history, what's the #1 worst?
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Post by Cyno on Dec 17, 2023 14:06:08 GMT -5
The Holiday special technically isn't a movie, but it's still an abomination.
And while TROS was pretty weak, I'd still rather watch it than TPM or AOTC.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 17, 2023 14:11:08 GMT -5
Holiday Special wasn't released, it escaped.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 17, 2023 14:13:34 GMT -5
The Holiday special technically isn't a movie, but it's still an abomination. And while TROS was pretty weak, I'd still rather watch it than TPM or AOTC. Yeah, the Disney films have tons of holes but they all feel more *fun* than the non-Yoda AOTC parts. But people get too mad about Star Wars quality anyway. Empire is a classic but there's no "perfect" SW movie and I'd still put Attack of the Clones and Phantom Menace over shit like, I dunno, Catwoman. |
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 17, 2023 14:25:51 GMT -5
The Last Jedi is the most pretty and shitty movie I've ever seen in theaters.
While TRoS was a wet fart of an ending at least it ended something. The Last Jedi was a prolonged wet fart that didn't end anything... except my undying love for Star Wars.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 17, 2023 14:26:52 GMT -5
Skywalker. I hate that movie. I watched it once in theatres, left just despising it. Watched it again when I bought the Blu Ray, did not improve my opinion at all. I watch the Holiday Special every Christmas, it's a terrible, terrible special but I can at least take some joy out of it. I get no joy from Skywalker.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 17, 2023 14:35:39 GMT -5
TROS
I went to London for the premiere of TROS. Spent the night queuing up on the cold streets to get a wristband for it (and 4am in the middle of December is cold.) Got my wristband, went to the premiere, got photos and autographs from many of the cast.
I have never been as disappointed in a movie as I was with TROS.
I know people who love every other Star Wars movie and I know people who hate every other Star Wars movie. But I've never met anyone who loves TROS.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 17, 2023 14:37:35 GMT -5
TROS I know people who love every other Star Wars movie and I know people who hate every other Star Wars movie. But I've never met anyone who loves TROS. That is a very valid point, I think the best reaction I've gotten from someone when talking about TRoS is indifference. |
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 17, 2023 14:39:35 GMT -5
The Last Jedi. Luke trying to kill his nephew because of a vision that he knows is unreliable, pointless side quest in Space Reno, and just a complete lack of direction. Rise of Skywalker was terrible too but Last Jedi sucked ass.
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Post by Soultastic on Dec 17, 2023 15:00:09 GMT -5
The Holiday Special is what it is.
Episode 8 had terrible execution but some ideas I liked, like Rey not having any special lineage.
Episode 9 made me want to stop liking Star Wars in general, so it wins.
Also shout out to episodes 2 and 3. 2 is just flat out bad by every metric. Bland, boring, nonsensical. Also I know 3 is regarded as the best prequel movie and I used to agree, but back in 2021 I binged all of Clone Wars and decided it'd be neat to top it off with episode 3 like so many people online recommended. Ooooh boy were the flaws more apparent than ever.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 17, 2023 15:06:45 GMT -5
ROS, as I didn't even bother. Every other SW movie I at least watched once, IIRC.
HS had no "Somehow, Bea Arthur returned" handwaving, so....good?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 17, 2023 15:09:26 GMT -5
Last Jedi and also Attack of the Clones
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 17, 2023 15:11:25 GMT -5
The call was coming from inside the house that was the first movie.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 17, 2023 15:14:23 GMT -5
The Phantom Menace. Come on now. Come the f*** on, it's by far the worst.
People jump to the "George Lucas wanted to make a KIDS movie" defense - yeah because children love movies about land trade disputes.
The dialogue is awful, Jar Jar is just as awful now as he was in '99 and - outside of the score - this movie has NOTHING going for it.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Dec 17, 2023 15:28:28 GMT -5
other: the original forgotten spin offs.
Ewoks: Caravan of courage.
Ewoks: Battle for Endor.
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Post by Stu on Dec 17, 2023 15:31:45 GMT -5
1: The Holiday Special was on television and was never meant to be anything more than it was. Plus, it was made in the 1970s before Star Wars standards were as high as they are now.
2: I'm a firm believer The Phantom Menace is not as bad as people say. It took place during an entirely new period in the Star Wars mythology and the political theme was necessary for the rise of Palpatine. The only issues were Anakin was about five years younger than he should have been and Jar Jar Binks (though that would've been fine if Darth Jar Jar happened).
3: Attack of the Clones is boring and generic. Also, Anakin hates sand.
4: The Sequel Trilogy failed because there was not a consistent storyline.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 17, 2023 16:16:00 GMT -5
As a general fan of the sequels, I left Rise of Skywalker feeling simultaneously entertained and baffled by it. There were cool things in it, it has a frenetic pace to keep you from getting too bored or questioning the awful plot points, but it was the most fanfic ass plot. They do those stupid non-risks where a character is going to die or 'lose their memory' and then it gets resolved within 15-20 minutes with no consequence. Then, it's on to the next scene since there's so little time to breathe in this movie and some other coincidental thing happens that feels like a half-baked idea to progress the characters to the next location. It's like they had a teenage boy piece the movie together. Carrie Fisher dying definitely made this movie worse, so I don't hold that aspect against them too much, but the way they go about that is kinda dumb, too. The Knights of Ren being underdeveloped nothing pushovers just retroactively makes Kylo's whole journey to the darkside much more disappointing. I actually like that The Emperor is back, but this was one of the biggest failures of not writing a consistent plot through the trilogy - he's just...back. And if I remember correctly, they had him announce it himself through Fortnite? Modern culture sucks, man. It also felt like Disney had them leave some loose ends untied so that they could develop Disney+ shows that thankfully never happened. The sandpit convo with Finn/Rey, the Lando IS THIS NEW CHARACTER YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER!1? thing, the backstory of Poe and that one chick, etc. The kiss at the end is the cherry on top of a shit sundae.
Attack of the Clones is probably worse, but I saw that movie for the first time *after* this one believe it or not. It's a stinker, I just don't really care about the prequels, personally.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 17, 2023 16:44:02 GMT -5
The Phantom Menace. Come on now. Come the f*** on, it's by far the worst. People jump to the "George Lucas wanted to make a KIDS movie" defense - yeah because children love movies about land trade disputes. The dialogue is awful, Jar Jar is just as awful now as he was in '99 and - outside of the score - this movie has NOTHING going for it. I used to believe The Phantom Menace was the worst. It's not great, but Darth Maul is cool enough to bring it above Attack of the Clones for me. Watching Padme ignore red flag after red flag after red flag after red flag is infuriating. |
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Post by chazraps on Dec 17, 2023 16:54:43 GMT -5
The Phantom Menace. Come on now. Come the f*** on, it's by far the worst. People jump to the "George Lucas wanted to make a KIDS movie" defense - yeah because children love movies about land trade disputes. The dialogue is awful, Jar Jar is just as awful now as he was in '99 and - outside of the score - this movie has NOTHING going for it. I used to believe The Phantom Menace was the worst. It's not great, but Darth Maul is cool enough to bring it above Attack of the Clones for me. Watching Padme ignore red flag after red flag after red flag after red flag is infuriating. For the record, I think Attack of the Clones is the second worst. But I also didn't see it for the first time until 2020. I saw 'Phantom Menace' once in theaters when it first hit and then a second time in 2019 when I wanted to finally watch the two prequels and thought to start off with this one. I then waited an entire year to watch Episode 2 because it was so bad. |
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 17, 2023 17:12:55 GMT -5
I'd rather watch TPM than AOTC. TPM isn't as important to the story but AOTC is just boring in places. It's become more meme than movie to me these days.
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