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Post by Munkie91087 on Feb 9, 2024 14:45:30 GMT -5
I just watched the Rock/Cody part on the WWE YouTube channel. It was hilarious. Seth in the background wearing that outfit, Rock slapping Cody, Seth getting into it with Rock after... it all reminded me just how f***ing dumb wrestling is and why I shouldn't get too upset over it. Wrestling being so dumb is why we all love it.
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Post by Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000 on Feb 9, 2024 14:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 9, 2024 18:59:19 GMT -5
This was never the plan. Cody literally said on Friday "I will fight you, but not at Mania", he passed the torch to The Rock and walked away, dejected and depressed. He was written out of the Main Event then and there. A week of total rejection by the fans caused them to pivot away from The Rock thinking he was "Saving Mania" If you don't care as long as it's entertaining, fine, but they're not getting away with this in plenty of fans eyes for doing the bare minimum of doing what they were SUPPOSED to do in the first place. The fact we even had to deal with this shit for a week is ridiculous and Rock's a f***ing asshole, but he's been an asshole for awhile now, head up his own ass, smelling his own rosey farts. If the whole point was for heel Rock to get gaslight Cody and have him step away, effectively turning the Wresltemania 40 into a celebration of the Bloodline only for Cody to realize he'd been played and reclaim his spot then it makes perfect sense for Cody to say what he said Friday. It would also make perfect sense for his character to look like he was having reservations about doing it on Friday. Finally, the match now has more attention and seems like a much bigger deal than it did 8 days ago, so I'm not sure why you would think this couldn't have been by design. As for the rest of your post, what do you even mean? They're not going to get away with it? Get away with what? Creating an entertaining, surprising storyline? Finally, it seems a lot of your anger toward this is fueled by a huge dislike for the Rock. I'm sure it wasn't his or anyone's intention to make your life miserable for a week. Cody's back in the main event and I'm excited about it. My first-grader is, too, as Cody is right there with Miles Morales in the super hero pantheon. I hope we are all, you included, are able to enjoy the show. I'm never thinking this was by design, and I really don't give a shit how you try and spin it otherwise personally my viewpoint isn't changing. It was never the intention and it wasn't "Fueled by a huge dislike of The Rock" either, the dude showed his true colors and the reports backed up what exactly happened and obviously it soured me and many on him so idk why you try and diagnose why I didn't like this specifically when there's plenty of reasons. Glad you're excited, but I also don't see why you see the need to personally hammer home to me, who hated how this was done, that it was "Totally all according to plan and by design" when you know that's just going to piss me off because it blatantly wasn't. You aren't getting a "You know what? You're right, I think I totally love this now" from me, ever, from this ordeal lol They didn't "create an entertaining and surprising storyline" they f***ed it up for no reason for a week straight, that's what I think, as I said, think what you want, don't know why you gaff at me for not being totally in love with this, I'm not telling you or your first-grader not to be in love with it, but if you're going to tap my shoulder constantly and go "Come on how can you NOT like how they did this?" I'm going to answer you quite bluntly that all of this was a complete unnecessary mess and they don't get credit from me for f***ing it up just for it to all have worked out ok in the end They got lucky, because the move was embarrassing, the blowback was embarrassing, but Rock had enough sense to not tank Mania and make it work, albeit with him still being involved and Seth Rollins looking like complete shit in the end. I'm glad Mania won't have this hanging over it like a specter and heel corporate Rock will likely be fine, but Smackdown was disgraceful, and the pivot was very, very real, and I think they were incredibly braindead for even thinking they'd be able to get away with that, Rock especially given he was the one who pushed it. So yeah, people are still within their rights to be exhausted by this company and how the last week went even though it thankfully seems to have worked out in the end and gotten to the right conclusion, and it's completely fine for people to express that just as it's perfectly fine for you to enjoy it and be excited.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 9, 2024 19:16:53 GMT -5
Honestly, I don’t think we’ll ever know the whole truth on if this was an elaborate work or pivot. People are going to stick to their guns and just believe what they want to believe. No need to say you’re right/wrong. Let’s just take in the ride at this point.
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Post by Treklubj on Feb 9, 2024 19:23:22 GMT -5
If the whole point was for heel Rock to get gaslight Cody and have him step away, effectively turning the Wresltemania 40 into a celebration of the Bloodline only for Cody to realize he'd been played and reclaim his spot then it makes perfect sense for Cody to say what he said Friday. It would also make perfect sense for his character to look like he was having reservations about doing it on Friday. Finally, the match now has more attention and seems like a much bigger deal than it did 8 days ago, so I'm not sure why you would think this couldn't have been by design. As for the rest of your post, what do you even mean? They're not going to get away with it? Get away with what? Creating an entertaining, surprising storyline? Finally, it seems a lot of your anger toward this is fueled by a huge dislike for the Rock. I'm sure it wasn't his or anyone's intention to make your life miserable for a week. Cody's back in the main event and I'm excited about it. My first-grader is, too, as Cody is right there with Miles Morales in the super hero pantheon. I hope we are all, you included, are able to enjoy the show. I'm never thinking this was by design, and I really don't give a shit how you try and spin it otherwise personally my viewpoint isn't changing. It was never the intention and it wasn't "Fueled by a huge dislike of The Rock" either, the dude showed his true colors and the reports backed up what exactly happened and obviously it soured me and many on him so idk why you try and diagnose why I didn't like this specifically when there's plenty of reasons. Glad you're excited, but I also don't see why you see the need to personally hammer home to me, who hated how this was done, that it was "Totally all according to plan and by design" when you know that's just going to piss me off because it blatantly wasn't. You aren't getting a "You know what? You're right, I think I totally love this now" from me, ever, from this ordeal lol They didn't "create an entertaining and surprising storyline" they f***ed it up for no reason for a week straight, that's what I think, as I said, think what you want, don't know why you gaff at me for not being totally in love with this, I'm not telling you or your first-grader not to be in love with it, but if you're going to tap my shoulder constantly and go "Come on how can you NOT like how they did this?" I'm going to answer you quite bluntly that all of this was a complete unnecessary mess and they don't get credit from me for f***ing it up just for it to all have worked out ok in the end They got lucky, because the move was embarrassing, the blowback was embarrassing, but Rock had enough sense to not tank Mania and make it work, albeit with him still being involved and Seth Rollins looking like complete shit in the end. I'm glad Mania won't have this hanging over it like a specter and heel corporate Rock will likely be fine, but Smackdown was disgraceful, and the pivot was very, very real, and I think they were incredibly braindead for even thinking they'd be able to get away with that, Rock especially given he was the one who pushed it. So yeah, people are still within their rights to be exhausted by this company and how the last week went even though it thankfully seems to have worked out in the end and gotten to the right conclusion, and it's completely fine for people to express that just as it's perfectly fine for you to enjoy it and be excited. Calm down. I haven't hammered you or constantly tapped you on the shoulder. I've responded to things you have posted twice, and other than the statement about Hurricane Helms (fact - did happen), nothing I have said was spoken in an absolute. It was framed as a maybe, possibly or what-if scenario. I don't know what went on behind the scenes during the past 10 days. I do find it hard to believe that WWE course corrected three times on television since the start of the Rumble. I also find it hard to believe that Triple H, Rock and anyone else involved thought the fans would happily accept Cody being kicked out of the main event. Do I know for sure I'm right on both of those statements? I don't. Just like you don't know anything you're typing about creative direction to be factual. Also, at what point did I ask you "Come on how can you not like how they did this?" You said I did it constantly and put it in quotations. When did I do this? Finally, I didn't diagnose anything. I said it seemed like a lot of your outrage is fueled by your dislike for the Rock. The way you go in on him like you personally know the dude gave me that impression. I now see I was wrong. The rant I just quoted now gives me the impression that's just how you communicate in writing.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 9, 2024 20:03:33 GMT -5
I'm never thinking this was by design, and I really don't give a shit how you try and spin it otherwise personally my viewpoint isn't changing. It was never the intention and it wasn't "Fueled by a huge dislike of The Rock" either, the dude showed his true colors and the reports backed up what exactly happened and obviously it soured me and many on him so idk why you try and diagnose why I didn't like this specifically when there's plenty of reasons. Glad you're excited, but I also don't see why you see the need to personally hammer home to me, who hated how this was done, that it was "Totally all according to plan and by design" when you know that's just going to piss me off because it blatantly wasn't. You aren't getting a "You know what? You're right, I think I totally love this now" from me, ever, from this ordeal lol They didn't "create an entertaining and surprising storyline" they f***ed it up for no reason for a week straight, that's what I think, as I said, think what you want, don't know why you gaff at me for not being totally in love with this, I'm not telling you or your first-grader not to be in love with it, but if you're going to tap my shoulder constantly and go "Come on how can you NOT like how they did this?" I'm going to answer you quite bluntly that all of this was a complete unnecessary mess and they don't get credit from me for f***ing it up just for it to all have worked out ok in the end They got lucky, because the move was embarrassing, the blowback was embarrassing, but Rock had enough sense to not tank Mania and make it work, albeit with him still being involved and Seth Rollins looking like complete shit in the end. I'm glad Mania won't have this hanging over it like a specter and heel corporate Rock will likely be fine, but Smackdown was disgraceful, and the pivot was very, very real, and I think they were incredibly braindead for even thinking they'd be able to get away with that, Rock especially given he was the one who pushed it. So yeah, people are still within their rights to be exhausted by this company and how the last week went even though it thankfully seems to have worked out in the end and gotten to the right conclusion, and it's completely fine for people to express that just as it's perfectly fine for you to enjoy it and be excited. Calm down. I haven't hammered you or constantly tapped you on the shoulder. I've responded to things you have posted twice, and other than the statement about Hurricane Helms (fact - did happen), nothing I have said was spoken in an absolute. It was framed as a maybe, possibly or what-if scenario. I don't know what went on behind the scenes during the past 10 days. I do find it hard to believe that WWE course corrected three times on television since the start of the Rumble. I also find it hard to believe that Triple H, Rock and anyone else involved thought the fans would happily accept Cody being kicked out of the main event. Do I know for sure I'm right on both of those statements? I don't. Just like you don't know anything you're typing about creative direction to be factual. Also, at what point did I ask you "Come on how can you not like how they did this?" You said I did it constantly and put it in quotations. When did I do this? Finally, I didn't diagnose anything. I said it seemed like a lot of your outrage is fueled by your dislike for the Rock. The way you go in on him like you personally know the dude gave me that impression. I now see I was wrong. The rant I just quoted now gives me the impression that's just how you communicate in writing. I'm pretty blunt in my writing style, I may have paraphrased what you said but it was how it was coming off to me It's more of a thing where I am happy they pivoted, I believe they pivoted 100 percent and this was never planned, and I have no issue with people being hype for what's to come now... I personally just can't get over how stupid this all was in the end, because it WAS stupid imo
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Post by Treklubj on Feb 9, 2024 23:36:08 GMT -5
Calm down. I haven't hammered you or constantly tapped you on the shoulder. I've responded to things you have posted twice, and other than the statement about Hurricane Helms (fact - did happen), nothing I have said was spoken in an absolute. It was framed as a maybe, possibly or what-if scenario. I don't know what went on behind the scenes during the past 10 days. I do find it hard to believe that WWE course corrected three times on television since the start of the Rumble. I also find it hard to believe that Triple H, Rock and anyone else involved thought the fans would happily accept Cody being kicked out of the main event. Do I know for sure I'm right on both of those statements? I don't. Just like you don't know anything you're typing about creative direction to be factual. Also, at what point did I ask you "Come on how can you not like how they did this?" You said I did it constantly and put it in quotations. When did I do this? Finally, I didn't diagnose anything. I said it seemed like a lot of your outrage is fueled by your dislike for the Rock. The way you go in on him like you personally know the dude gave me that impression. I now see I was wrong. The rant I just quoted now gives me the impression that's just how you communicate in writing. I'm pretty blunt in my writing style, I may have paraphrased what you said but it was how it was coming off to me It's more of a thing where I am happy they pivoted, I believe they pivoted 100 percent and this was never planned, and I have no issue with people being hype for what's to come now... I personally just can't get over how stupid this all was in the end, because it WAS stupid imo 1. You can call your previous post blunt. You could also say you came across like an unhinged jerk telling me you don't give a shit how I spin something because I had the nerve to express an opinion that was different than yours. To be clear, I'm not calling you names or attacking you. I'm pointing out how you went from zero to 100 out of nowhere. I've seen you mention many times on the AEW board about the trolls you deal with in other places. You might be contributing to some of those interactions if you post in those places the same way you did here. 2. You didn't paraphrase anything. You wrote down some words that I didnt come close to typing, threw some quotation marks around them and attributed them to me. That's not paraphrasing. You can call that putting words in somebody's mouth, you can call it misrepresenting someone or you can even call it lying. But you can't call it paraphrasing. 3. I will reiterate that I never said anything close to "come on, how can you not like this?" I've read enough of your opinions about pro wrestling to understand there's a good likelihood we are not entertained by the same things. There's nothing wrong with that. 4. Finally, if you want to give an opinion on something I wrote, cool. I like engaging. I don't mind outright arguing about stuff like this because at the end of the day, it's not important, real-life stuff. What I don't like is for someone to make up things I didn't write, credit me with it just to go in about the stuff you made up.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 10, 2024 2:55:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty blunt in my writing style, I may have paraphrased what you said but it was how it was coming off to me It's more of a thing where I am happy they pivoted, I believe they pivoted 100 percent and this was never planned, and I have no issue with people being hype for what's to come now... I personally just can't get over how stupid this all was in the end, because it WAS stupid imo 1. You can call your previous post blunt. You could also say you came across like an unhinged jerk telling me you don't give a shit how I spin something because I had the nerve to express an opinion that was different than yours. To be clear, I'm not calling you names or attacking you. I'm pointing out how you went from zero to 100 out of nowhere. I've seen you mention many times on the AEW board about the trolls you deal with in other places. You might be contributing to some of those interactions if you post in those places the same way you did here. 2. You didn't paraphrase anything. You wrote down some words that I didnt come close to typing, threw some quotation marks around them and attributed them to me. That's not paraphrasing. You can call that putting words in somebody's mouth, you can call it misrepresenting someone or you can even call it lying. But you can't call it paraphrasing. 3. I will reiterate that I never said anything close to "come on, how can you not like this?" I've read enough of your opinions about pro wrestling to understand there's a good likelihood we are not entertained by the same things. There's nothing wrong with that. 4. Finally, if you want to give an opinion on something I wrote, cool. I like engaging. I don't mind outright arguing about stuff like this because at the end of the day, it's not important, real-life stuff. What I don't like is for someone to make up things I didn't write, credit me with it just to go in about the stuff you made up. I'm telling you how it came off to me, as you replied to me, that is exactly how it sounded with you saying stuff like "It makes perfect sense for this to be this", it felt undermining to my point about why I was angry about this in the first place. To be clear here, you replied to me and initiated the conversation from the beginning, and the discussion when I was clearly upset about this situation and annoyed while you tried to tell me one thing or another or why I was upset or "Who's to say this wasn't the plan all along?" if you want a direct quote from your messages. It snowballed pretty clearly but you also never let up and also didn't seem content with me having my negative thoughts on the matter either. If that makes me an "unhinged jerk" then I apologize because it wasn't my intent to anger you, but I gave you my unfiltered thoughts on the matter and why I thought it was, and still is bullshit, and think it was embarrassing the way that we got here. I don't have an issue with your opinion, I never did, and I still don't, in every post I said you were free to enjoy this storyline to its fullest extent, and yeah I said I don't give a shit what you say about if they planned it or if it'll be entertaining, that wasn't intended to be personally malicious, I just was saying it point blank for my own personal rhetoric. I'm stalwart in how I feel about this and this past week as a wrestling fan f***ing sucked to experience, I'm not praising them for putting me and others through that, hundreds of pages worth of it just here in fact, including plenty of firsthand comments of upset children at the direction it was going from people online as well. I don't really care if it worked out or if it's gonna be awesome going forward, they can eat shit for doing what they did, and I'm at the very least glad that the Rock's bullshit only made it a few days before they realized it was unsalvageable as it was and we can just move on with what we were supposed to be doing from the jump. I also hope we are able to enjoy the show moving forward, but at this point, I just want this shit to be over, I'm actively tired of it and wish I was looking forward to it like some also are but they've really soured me on it, and that's just where I am, I want this years long slog to be done, and this was just one last hammer over the head in me wanting it done so I can enjoy the world title scenes in WWE again, because I genuinely have not in ages with this ROMANWINSLOL bullshit, and I'm not alone in that either.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 10, 2024 11:11:14 GMT -5
WWE needs to just let their shows go with the flow. This whole segment is 10 times better without all the damn censorship.
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Post by 4real on Feb 10, 2024 13:34:17 GMT -5
Rock, Roman, Rhodes, Rollins, Ripley
Is it possible the letter R has become overpushed?
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 10, 2024 19:51:15 GMT -5
WWE needs to just let their shows go with the flow. This whole segment is 10 times better without all the damn censorship. No censorship of "Holy shit!" would make NXT even better when a big spot happens.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 10, 2024 21:41:54 GMT -5
Rock, Roman, Rhodes, Rollins, Ripley Is it possible the letter R has become overpushed? RONG! lma..wait..f..😥
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Post by CMWaters on Feb 10, 2024 21:45:49 GMT -5
Rock, Roman, Rhodes, Rollins, Ripley Is it possible the letter R has become overpushed? At least there's no Riddle in it anymore.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 10, 2024 21:46:07 GMT -5
WWE needs to just let their shows go with the flow. This whole segment is 10 times better without all the damn censorship. No censorship of "Holy shit!" would make NXT even better when a big spot happens. That's entirely on USA/Universal and Mattel. I have a feeling that Raw is going to have a longer leash with language and weapons when they move to Netflix everywhere
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Post by cjh on Feb 10, 2024 22:00:23 GMT -5
WWE needs to just let their shows go with the flow. This whole segment is 10 times better without all the damn censorship. No censorship of "Holy shit!" would make NXT even better when a big spot happens. That's USA Network muting the audio, not WWE. NXT goes up on WWE Network and Peacock a day after it airs on USA, and crowd chants aren't censored.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Feb 10, 2024 22:24:57 GMT -5
www.newscientist.com/definition/occams-razor/When it comes to Wrestlemania 40, what's the simpler explanation... Either WWE made a mistake with its booking then course-corrected? Or that this past week was designed, from the start, as a work?
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 13, 2024 21:34:40 GMT -5
Punk just casually tossing raw chum to his odorous unemployable fanbase and coming off so out of place to everyone else. Weird take
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Post by clc on Feb 14, 2024 20:03:21 GMT -5
WWE needs to just let their shows go with the flow. This whole segment is 10 times better without all the damn censorship. At this point, I blame the fans for not watching their language. We all watch the show, we all hate when the audio goes out. When we go to live events, maybe we don't say stuff to force a mute.
I propose we replace Holy S-word with a family friendly chant of Gee Willikers!
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