tafkaga
Samurai Cop
the Dogfather
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Post by tafkaga on Apr 22, 2024 9:20:05 GMT -5
The Shockmaster falls and loses his helmet. Bulldog pisses himself laughing, Sting giggles, Flair swears and looks pissed off, the entire thing is falling apart, and in the middle of all of this, Sid is treating the Shockmaster like an existential threat to his heel team. He completely refuses to break character and that's the bit that cracks me up for good. Was Flair even present? I could have sworn he and Fifi the Maid left. What makes the whole thing worse is Ole is late getting on the mic, leaving about 10 to 15 seconds of awkwardness to happen. Other nitpicks I always had was that they clearly didn't plan the segment well considering before Shockmaster comes out, they're all talking randomly (this isn't new territory for wrestling, but regardless) and Sting is forced to loudly interject to get his one line in beforehand. But what makes it even worse is how everyone is standing facing away from the camera, and most people present can't be seen. Bulldog's robe thingy envelops all of Sting other than about half of Sting's face. Say what you will, but at least WWF at the time knew how to film segments where you got all your characters in the frame while facing the camera. The Shockmaster segment has so many issues going on, outside of Fred Ottman falling. Sid is awesome though. I never understood why people said he was a bad promo. Other than "We're live, pal", I don't know of another promo where he botched. "Half the brains" was scripted to be like that, especially since Nash had been proclaiming Sid to be stupid. Sid might butcher a word, but never a promo. I think it was Alvarez who pointed out that Sid's delivery of a promo was always delivered with conviction in whatever he said, so making a mistake with a word played into how frustrated he sounded, whereas a promo delivered in the Ruthless Aggression era, you'd have guys who delivered their lines without any mistakes, but there was no emotion or drive behind what they were saying. Say what you will, but I'd rather someone cut a promo sounding like the Tasmanian Devil over someone who sounds like the Hal 9000. Agreed. Sid had some flubs but he was overall a great promo. He had great energy, got his character across very well, and was always entertaining. I don't really know what more you could want from a wrestling promo.
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msc
Dennis Stamp
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Post by msc on Apr 22, 2024 12:11:53 GMT -5
You can hear Flair saying something like "Oh for f***s sake" on the audio. Before he died, Patrice O'Neal did a lengthy interview going over every single bit of The Shockmaster debut which he thought was the funniest thing of all time. Agreed on Sid's promos, btw. Besides, he makes you believe he is that monster, so what is the odd fluffed word. Jaws never speaks, he's still one of the best Bond bad guys. Do you have a link to that O'Neil interview? I wasn't sure if it was still online, as the chap died in 2011 (!), but it appears to be here. Seems to be a radio spot where he randomly spoke for 15 minutes about his love of The Shockmaster. In there is the bit about Sid staying in character which I'd never twigged till then.
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Post by Andee9001 on Apr 23, 2024 2:50:07 GMT -5
He ruined the number 22 for me!
Such an interesting case for a wrestler. In ring he was average, his promos were mostly shouty nonsense and his acting was appalling.
But he was awesome. Great chokeslam, great powerbomb, he looked a million bucks and a terrifying monster and him reacting to his cars being crushed are in my top 10 wrestling moments.
Even the ECW fans loved him.
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Renslayer
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
every time i come around your city...
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Post by Renslayer on Apr 24, 2024 0:47:03 GMT -5
I was listening to his 1996-97 theme, and holy shit it kicks ass
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tirtefaa
Unicron
If you wanna know the truth, you gotta dig up Johnny Booth.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 24, 2024 7:57:46 GMT -5
I was listening to his 1996-97 theme, and holy shit it kicks ass Of all the people who had the design pyro, the one where it spells out "SID" is by far the best.
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msc
Dennis Stamp
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Post by msc on Apr 24, 2024 15:29:46 GMT -5
One I'd never seen before. Superstars from 1991 and Sid is murdering Kato. He sends the Orient Express man to the floor and then pauses his destruction momentarily to acknowledge a kid fan at ringside... before pressing Kato onto the barrier in front of the kid!
Even WWF cutting the audio to go to a Jake promo couldn't take away from it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 24, 2024 22:16:38 GMT -5
Such an interesting case for a wrestler. In ring he was average, his promos were mostly shouty nonsense and his acting was appalling. But he was awesome. Great chokeslam, great powerbomb, he looked a million bucks and a terrifying monster and him reacting to his cars being crushed are in my top 10 wrestling moments. The living embodiment of someone being greater than the sum of their parts.
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