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Post by stan1337 on Apr 12, 2024 19:26:54 GMT -5
6 pages in and I just wanna say You can always shit on HHH "But the joke was lame and date-" IT IS ALWAYS MORALLY CORRECT. You could say the same about Tony Khan. Yes we hate billionaires but also we hate billionaires that either engaged in or covered up decades of sexual assault on employees and also worked hard to keep conditions and pay as shitty as possible so he could save a buck and make two more, more than billionaires that start a private company that is basically designed to support wrestlers as artists and people and also provide them with the best pay and conditions in the history of the business. f***ing hell no one has any ability to see details and nuance.
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2024 19:28:27 GMT -5
You could say the same about Tony Khan. Whatever your feelings on HHH it can't be denied that it comes across as pathetic and bush league. Luckily for Osprey it happened in the same show that AEW embarassed themselves further so not as many people will talk about this. The only thing embarrassing about that event are the amount of people who advocated for violence, defend an abuser, and use twitter bots to try and conflate it to WCW 2000 If you mean that's the embarrassing part then for sure, I agree, it's been an embarrassing week for wrestling "fans". And if it looked "Bush League" for AEW to do what they did, then I could tell plenty ways WWE's looked "Bush League" too... It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 12, 2024 19:30:22 GMT -5
The only thing embarrassing about that event are the amount of people who advocated for violence, defend an abuser, and use twitter bots to try and conflate it to WCW 2000 If you mean that's the embarrassing part then for sure, I agree, it's been an embarrassing week for wrestling "fans". And if it looked "Bush League" for AEW to do what they did, then I could tell plenty ways WWE's looked "Bush League" too... It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before. Meltzer and a few others have said The Bucks and FTR were fine with it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2024 19:31:53 GMT -5
The only thing embarrassing about that event are the amount of people who advocated for violence, defend an abuser, and use twitter bots to try and conflate it to WCW 2000 If you mean that's the embarrassing part then for sure, I agree, it's been an embarrassing week for wrestling "fans". And if it looked "Bush League" for AEW to do what they did, then I could tell plenty ways WWE's looked "Bush League" too... It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before. There's no official report that the Bucks didn't want to do it, SRS, Meltzer, and others refuted Keller on that statement. Nothing about the backlash to this has been humiliating for AEW, Perry's merch sold out in New Japan, ratings were fine, Warner does not care, so what's humiliating for them? Twitter assholes shitting on the product? A section of fans in the arena chanting CM Punk? (While others chanted "THANK YOU JACK"?) It's as embarrassing as you perceive it and take in the drama tbh
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 12, 2024 19:32:38 GMT -5
Lame joke, but Will has never been known for his wit.
Turnabout is fair play, all the same.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 12, 2024 19:56:51 GMT -5
The only thing embarrassing about that event are the amount of people who advocated for violence, defend an abuser, and use twitter bots to try and conflate it to WCW 2000 If you mean that's the embarrassing part then for sure, I agree, it's been an embarrassing week for wrestling "fans". And if it looked "Bush League" for AEW to do what they did, then I could tell plenty ways WWE's looked "Bush League" too... It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before. Oh my God, both of you shut the f*** up with this stupid slap fight, or you're both suspended. f*** this horseshit.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2024 20:04:53 GMT -5
It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before. Oh my God, both of you shut the f*** up with this stupid slap fight, or you're both suspended. f*** this horseshit. Sorry, I'm not trying to make this look like a slap fight or something, I just think the rhetoric lately has gotten to me too much It's like you said, this week has sucked.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 12, 2024 20:17:40 GMT -5
Oh my God, both of you shut the f*** up with this stupid slap fight, or you're both suspended. f*** this horseshit. Sorry, I'm not trying to make this look like a slap fight or something, I just think the rhetoric lately has gotten to me too much It's like you said, this week has sucked. I know what you mean. Best I’ve seen. Elsewhere someone posted about Meltzer saying there were anti Punk chants. A person posted video backing up Melzers statements and was and was downvoted for providing proof (yes obviously Reddit) Problem is no one wants to discuss anything, many just want to push a narrative and balk and anyone who dates go against it . It’s frustrating.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 12, 2024 20:20:41 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm not trying to make this look like a slap fight or something, I just think the rhetoric lately has gotten to me too much It's like you said, this week has sucked. I know what you mean. Best I’ve seen. Elsewhere someone posted about Meltzer saying there were anti Punk chants. A person posted video backing up Melzers statements and was and was downvoted for providing proof (yes obviously Reddit) Problem is no one wants to discuss anything, many just want to push a narrative and balk and anyone who dates go against it . It’s frustrating. Reddit just became a huge Punk /WWE Fans echochamber.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 12, 2024 20:27:53 GMT -5
I know what you mean. Best I’ve seen. Elsewhere someone posted about Meltzer saying there were anti Punk chants. A person posted video backing up Melzers statements and was and was downvoted for providing proof (yes obviously Reddit) Problem is no one wants to discuss anything, many just want to push a narrative and balk and anyone who dates go against it . It’s frustrating. Reddit just became a huge Punk /WWE Fans echochamber. I'm glad I never got used to frequenting Reddit, sometimes to view posts but never made an account, never made it a habit to look there And when it comes to wrestling talk it seems like a constant disaster.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Apr 12, 2024 20:33:24 GMT -5
I know what you mean. Best I’ve seen. Elsewhere someone posted about Meltzer saying there were anti Punk chants. A person posted video backing up Melzers statements and was and was downvoted for providing proof (yes obviously Reddit) Problem is no one wants to discuss anything, many just want to push a narrative and balk and anyone who dates go against it . It’s frustrating. Reddit just became a huge Punk /WWE Fans echochamber. Literally the only wrestling Reddit I’m subscribed to now is r/AEWofficial because they (generally) don’t even give the trolls and bad faith actors a warning. Just boom…done….take your toxicity to SC(Circle)Jerk or wherever.
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Post by Woo on Apr 12, 2024 21:58:29 GMT -5
It's embarassing because like TNA before they can't stop mentioning wrestlers in the WWE on the shows. Tony Khan forcing the Young Bucks to do a segment they didn't want to do to air good personal vendetta is so carny and pathetic. The backlash to this has been rather humiliating for them, especially after Edge's promo the week before. Oh my God, both of you shut the f*** up with this stupid slap fight, or you're both suspended. f*** this horseshit. Sorry if I crossed the line. I have posted by opinion in what I thought was a respectful manner and will I stop now to not offended anybody.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 13, 2024 7:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 13, 2024 9:21:04 GMT -5
I know discussion boards/forums (social media didn’t exist) back in the mid to late 90’s weren’t as widespread as they are now..
But during the Monday Night Wars, were things this personal between fans online? I mean, the reactions some people are having on both sides would be easier to accept if it was someone employed by either company or someone who had a vested interest in the success of one of them.. but not so much just a fan.
Maybe I need to do a better job at just staying off these places (unfortunately, sometimes this one too 😕) cause not is my perspective sometimes colored by people’s comments but the constant negativity and pissing matches just make it not very fun to read through discussions on here. It’s almost always an argument.
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Post by 06vwgti on Apr 13, 2024 9:25:19 GMT -5
You can read a lot of old wrestling discussion on google groups from the mid to late 90s. Its very interesting reading that from WCW/WWF/ECW and sometimes Memphis
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Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 13, 2024 9:39:52 GMT -5
You can read a lot of old wrestling discussion on google groups from the mid to late 90s. Its very interesting reading that from WCW/WWF/ECW and sometimes Memphis The best content I’ve found from that time frame is the oldest section available on The Wrestling Classics* message board. The discussions weren’t as in-depth back then but still interesting. Certainly not as much bickering, and even when you do see arguments it was more like people poking fun at each other not full on hit-pieces on why Company A “sucked” or anything personal really. *not sure if we’re allowed to mention other forums here so if anyone needs to edit that, be my guest.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 13, 2024 10:48:39 GMT -5
You can read a lot of old wrestling discussion on google groups from the mid to late 90s. Its very interesting reading that from WCW/WWF/ECW and sometimes Memphis The best content I’ve found from that time frame is the oldest section available on The Wrestling Classics* message board. The discussions weren’t as in-depth back then but still interesting. Certainly not as much bickering, and even when you do see arguments it was more like people poking fun at each other not full on hit-pieces on why Company A “sucked” or anything personal really. *not sure if we’re allowed to mention other forums here so if anyone needs to edit that, be my guest. I used to frequent the AOL wrestling boards. Definitely had some tribalism but it was more poking fun at it each. Seems a lot more mean spirited these days. Of course I’m much older now so maybe my perspective changed.
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 13, 2024 12:05:42 GMT -5
I'm sure it wasn't as bad back then if only because to post on a message board, you had to be at your computer. You couldn't just post a comment whenever wanted - you were limited to the times you could sit down and get your dial up Internet online.
Now that so many of us have mobile phones and are online 24/7 we can post whenever we want. There's no cooling off period because you're out of the house/away from school and don't have Internet access. People can argue constantly from wherever they are.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Apr 13, 2024 15:00:17 GMT -5
A lame and unnecessary reply to a lame and unnecessary comment. No one looks good in this.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Apr 13, 2024 15:15:07 GMT -5
I'm sure it wasn't as bad back then if only because to post on a message board, you had to be at your computer. You couldn't just post a comment whenever wanted - you were limited to the times you could sit down and get your dial up Internet online. Now that so many of us have mobile phones and are online 24/7 we can post whenever we want. There's no cooling off period because you're out of the house/away from school and don't have Internet access. People can argue constantly from wherever they are. Yeah when I signed up to the board in (I think) 06 I could only visit and post via my PC, I'd been reading the wrestlecrap boards for at least two years at that point too, i think prior to Proboards. The only comparison I really have is TNA at it's 1.1 height and my memory of the TNA board (which definitely could be mis-remembered at this point) is the vast majority of people making fun of the product, whether it went as far as "shitting on the product" I can't recall. Tbh my main memory is the 1.1 gif Jesus debuts = 1.1 etc. Somebody will have it saved I'm sure. There were clearly people enjoying it though hence the consistent rating and I don't recall the lengthy back and forths with the same points made over and over that we see on the AEW board. I definitely don't remember the terms good/bad faith, discourse and narrative being used so consistently until the past year or two as well. I feel like and old grump as these really grate on me now 🤣 On topic and just my two pennies - Ospreay is well within his rights to respond, I think what Triple H said was more than a bit silly, my advice to both (like they give a shit) is those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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