ayumidah
Wade Wilson
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 16, 2024 3:54:23 GMT -5
Remember when Roddy and the Kingdom were actually getting over as goofy comedy heels before all this UK nonsense? I miss that. I yearn for the days of Neck Strong and silly plush giraffes
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mystermystery
Dennis Stamp
Still in the White Hummer
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Post by mystermystery on Apr 16, 2024 5:19:10 GMT -5
They might as well get to it and, hopefully, give it to Kyle because I think the belt works better as a "fighting champion" face title that just needs transition reigns from heels (with Miro's reign as the exception because of the job it did building him as a monster). Miro never had the International title. Don't post before taking a nap. Got it.
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King Devitt
Grimlock
It gets better the longer you stare at it
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 16, 2024 7:42:58 GMT -5
The turn felt a little bit out of nowhere but equally in storyline Kyle's been rebuffing the UK's advances since the last PPV, how much longer would heels usually wait before attacking someone when they've made ir clear they don't want to join you. Personally think both guys are f***ing great in their own way so I'm glad we're getting it even if others aren't. Yeah I'm looking forward to the match as well, and it's a nice addition to the show.
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Post by stan1337 on Apr 16, 2024 8:41:03 GMT -5
The turn felt a little bit out of nowhere but equally in storyline Kyle's been rebuffing the UK's advances since the last PPV, how much longer would heels usually wait before attacking someone when they've made ir clear they don't want to join you. Personally think both guys are f***ing great in their own way so I'm glad we're getting it even if others aren't. Yeah I'm looking forward to the match as well, and it's a nice addition to the show. I agree. I certainly don't think it is rushed and it does not need more time but I am enjoying it. I think Roddy and the kingdom still have that dumbass heel vibe, especially with the absurd stach. Plus they can whip out neck strong literally at any time if Roddy takes a mean bump. Should be a fun match. This week is absurd between dynamite and the PPV.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 16, 2024 9:09:09 GMT -5
Kyle O'Reilly is this wrestler where like...I simultaneously see the potential in him as a main event talent, and absolutely cannot see him as one. He's a fantastic technical wrestler, but not in the way that's immediately mind-blowing. He just kind of does everything very well and I couldn't name a single move of his off the top of my head. He's not exactly a big character, but he's so idiosyncratic as a low-key guy that it sort of makes him more memorable than if he were louder and more traditionally defined. He's got this weird charisma where he can look incredibly threatening or downright cuddly while still feeling like just a dude. He's sort of an 8/10 in every category but like, distinctively enough in every way that he breaks the scale without feeling like an obvious star. Kyle feels like he is the right push or condition or character nudge away from becoming a really good midcard fixture and having a four month TNT title run or an odd couple tag team story that hits it big. And none of those are bad things, but it feels like so little for how good he is, and yet it's the only really fitting way it feels they could resolve what he offers. He feels like Orange Cassidy if Orange Cassidy didn't tap into something that made him a credible main event guy. Not as much of a noticeable and distinct character, but that really early days AEW OC who hadn't yet really shown he had that next level in him and everyone figured was just going to be the fun guy in the undercard forever.
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Soultastic
El Dandy
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 16, 2024 10:06:14 GMT -5
I think Kyle as he is and has been for a while is a perfect upper midcarder. Someone you can have hold any championship except for the world's (maybe challenge for it once or twice on TV). And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Can he find something to drive him over the edge? Maybe. I certainly never thought Mark Henry had the Hall of Pain run in him, or that Naito would ever leave goofy goober mode. But for now, he's fine as he is.
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Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Apr 16, 2024 11:44:32 GMT -5
With no competent storytellers around how much of a feud can you build?
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Apr 16, 2024 11:53:12 GMT -5
They had multiple interactions and once it became clear that Kyle both wanted the belt and wasn't gonna join them, they naturally turned I'm kind of confused, most people get really upset when storylines are dragged out in AEW. I cannot imagine many people actually would have WANTED this storyline to drag out needlessly, because I remember people didn't like when Roddy's last feud with Orange did. Imo it really feels like they learned from that and now they have a whole week to heat this up further, three shows worth to do so.Idk if it ends even past Dynasty but imo this was the right move. AEW: Our fans are never satisfied!
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King Devitt
Grimlock
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Post by King Devitt on Apr 16, 2024 22:01:22 GMT -5
Dear Tony, please feel free to rush the actual match too Or give them a good 10-15 minutes or so to cook, and let two fantastic wrestlers show the world how good they are. Will it be the most over match on the show? No. Can they win the crowd over with good wrestling (especially an AEW crowd)? Yes.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2024 16:47:51 GMT -5
Miro never had the International title. Don't post before taking a nap. Got it. You're probably thinking of a conflation of how he was in one of the initial matches to crown the first champ and his time as TNT champion. He SHOULD have probably won the belt at some point, though, really.
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GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Apr 17, 2024 17:42:17 GMT -5
Everyone: “this shit is stupid who cares there’s no build why is this match already happening” Me: “heheheh kyle rhymes with title lets f***ing go I’m paying 60 now”
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