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Post by DSR on Aug 2, 2007 22:41:57 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Korn and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes.
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Post by rra on Aug 2, 2007 22:42:30 GMT -5
What are some albums that people claim are the end all - be all in music that just makes you wanna hit them with a sack of door knobs? Maybe these kids with their new fangled whiny bands? An over rated group from back in the day you just don't agree with? A legendary artist you just don't see the appeal of? Here is your chance to get it off your chest and list 5 of em that just pisses you off to see other people enjoying them!Please remember lets try to NOT turn this into a flame war this is just for fun if you DO feel the need to voice your opinion on other peoples choices do so in a respectful manner. This is just an excuse to be cranky. Here's my list to get this rolling. In no particular order.. Nirvana - Nevermind People like to act like this is some master piece.. don;t get me wrong I LOVE nirvana I just think this is their weakest album & I believe Kurt knew this... which is why he designed In Utero the way he did. Everyone I see enjoying this album makes me want to scream at them and tell them how much better their live works are (see With The Lights Out). Fall Out Boy - From Under the Cork Tree Perhaps a sign of me becoming a cranky old man at the age of 23 already? This is a shining example and the poster boy of all this new music I can;t stand. Admittedly I probably just don't get it... but when I listen to it I don't hear music. T.L.C. - FanMail This one is based simply off of "No Scrubs" song which EVERY female played for a SOLID 500 days straight on repeat. The mere mention of this bands name is tarnished for me which is a shame because they've produced a lot of other good tracks elsewhere, but now this is all I can think about when they're mentioned. Trapt - Trapt Here's one of those bands that comes out with a repetitive single that has nothing to do with anything and no real meaning to it, Head Strong. Altho it was catchy, I don't think it should have warranted the album selling so well 'specially considering the rest of the album sucked. I can't think of a single friends collection I didn't see this album in at one point, only to be put in the player for the first track, (foolishly it was front loaded with their single followed by some... crap) then removed cause well, I start to b****. Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water Now before everyone start bashing Limp let me get it out of the way I LOVED their first to albums. They were hate and angst and fun all rolled into a nice little compact disk. This one really fell off the wagon tho and became an attempt at having TOO much fun, which made none of it work quite right. It being forced down my throat by the MTV and radio helped make it on my list as well. Every single on this disk is enough to make me kick random people in the shins. FALL OUT BOY can kiss....my....ass. Really, I felt embarrased as a QUEEN fan when those hacks wrote a love letter to NEWS OF THE WORLD. Yeech.
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Aug 2, 2007 22:42:45 GMT -5
Well, I didn't mean to say that a band or a musician's look is unimportant. Certainly, there are bands that have imagery tied to their music, as Kiss does. (I'll remind you that, in the 80s, Kiss removed the makeup, and were quite heinous looking, but still had hits.) But, like, Simon and Garfunkel were fairly average lookin' dudes. I just don't see why someone would dismiss a talented musician based on the grounds that he's not attractive. its all about looks like i said a post earlier. look at britney spears. cant sing her way out of a wet paper bag but shes got the look. when the music video came out,it leveled a lot of music areers cuz they didnt have a good look.
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Aug 2, 2007 22:44:15 GMT -5
It's sad but true. Someone like Aretha Franklin could never have a mainstream music career nowadays, she would be considered too fat. There was a thread about Amy Winehouse recently, and some people were talking crap because they think she's ugly as if that has anything to do with music. I find Amy Winehouse totally hot. And she's a good singer. she was hotter when she had a bit of weight to her around her album before this one. she had these thighs you'd beg for,bro
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 2, 2007 22:45:42 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Kiss and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes. They're ugly but being UGLY is their look, know what I mean?
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Post by Chucklehead,baby!!! on Aug 2, 2007 22:46:38 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Kiss and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes. They're ugly but being UGLY is their look, know what I mean? cant be a pretty boy in rock. otherwise u end up singing pop the rest of your life........winger
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 2, 2007 22:49:06 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Kiss and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes. I agree with the point you're making but I have to nitpick and say KISS was one of the world's biggest bands before MTV even existed.
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Post by DSR on Aug 2, 2007 22:49:32 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Kiss and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes. They're ugly but being UGLY is their look, know what I mean? Yeah. Some musicians are attractive, and show it. Some artists are unattractive, and they deal with it or use it to their advantage. So, I fail to see why looks are important. I'm fully aware of what the general public does, in terms of music and movies and all that nonsense. I'm just disagreeing.
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Post by DSR on Aug 2, 2007 22:50:36 GMT -5
I do have to kinda counterpoint, however. Kiss and Marilyn Manson have had success by and large because of MTV. And, while I'll leave it to your personal preference to determine whether or not they are actually good musicians, they are quite the ugly dudes. I agree with the point you're making but I have to nitpick and say KISS was one of the world's biggest bands before MTV even existed. Meant to say Korn, actually. My hands on the keyboard didn't process what my brain intended. Modified the post in question to fix that.
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Post by The OP on Aug 2, 2007 22:51:10 GMT -5
The thing is, KISS got popular in part because of their look, but they were also fairly original at the time they came out.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Aug 2, 2007 23:41:13 GMT -5
"I think AC/DC singing about Tolkein would rock. Because it would still be about nailing women in some way." Well, there's a new away message. Nice to see the annoyance with Bob Dylan... stuff like "Tangled Up In Blue" and "Simple Twist of Fate" annoys me, especially with the forced rhymes. Sure, he's only a 0.5 Dolores O'Riordan in that department, but BLECCCCCCH. Also, Dave Matthews Band needs to end. Now. No, NOW. Not in five minutes. NOW. I've heard enough squealing over DAAAAAAAAAAVE to drown some small woodland creatures. They're not the Dead. Hell, they're not even a cut-rate Phish. Put down the drugs and give Gene Simmons a hug.
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Post by amsiraK on Aug 2, 2007 23:44:03 GMT -5
The look was the hook that dragged you in.
And it's a double standard. Dudes can be ugly as all git out (Flava Flav, I'm looking in your direction) and still be successful. Women have to be model-perfect as well as talented. And sometimes instead of. (Paging Britney Spears. Miss Spears, your 15 minutes are overdue.)
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Post by DSR on Aug 2, 2007 23:57:10 GMT -5
I didn't even realize they were still around. *shrug* It is A hook to drag you in, but it isn't the only one. Flav attached himself to a very talented man by the name of Chuck D. Beyond that, any recent success Flav has is because of the "OMG TRAINWRECK, EVERYONE LOOK" reality show that is his current life.
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Post by The OP on Aug 3, 2007 0:06:14 GMT -5
"I think AC/DC singing about Tolkein would rock. Because it would still be about nailing women in some way." Well, there's a new away message. Nice to see the annoyance with Bob Dylan... stuff like "Tangled Up In Blue" and "Simple Twist of Fate" annoys me, especially with the forced rhymes. Sure, he's only a 0.5 Dolores O'Riordan in that department, but BLECCCCCCH. Also, Dave Matthews Band needs to end. Now. No, NOW. Not in five minutes. NOW. I've heard enough squealing over DAAAAAAAAAAVE to drown some small woodland creatures. They're not the Dead. Hell, they're not even a cut-rate Phish. Put down the drugs and give Gene Simmons a hug. Dave Matthews is a guy that all the elitist band geeks in my high school really liked. That's kinda still how I perceive him, and I have no use for the guy. He's a horrible singer and his songs are lame.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 3, 2007 0:13:41 GMT -5
"I think AC/DC singing about Tolkein would rock. Because it would still be about nailing women in some way." Well, there's a new away message. Nice to see the annoyance with Bob Dylan... stuff like "Tangled Up In Blue" and "Simple Twist of Fate" annoys me, especially with the forced rhymes. Sure, he's only a 0.5 Dolores O'Riordan in that department, but BLECCCCCCH. Also, Dave Matthews Band needs to end. Now. No, NOW. Not in five minutes. NOW. I've heard enough squealing over DAAAAAAAAAAVE to drown some small woodland creatures. They're not the Dead. Hell, they're not even a cut-rate Phish. Put down the drugs and give Gene Simmons a hug. drjay you just became my favorite poster here!
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Post by samachine on Aug 3, 2007 0:24:13 GMT -5
Paul Stanley is not ugly, the rest of KISS I agree, but Paul Stanley is Paul Studley
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Post by Smokey McTrees on Aug 3, 2007 1:29:10 GMT -5
Aren't ICP secretly Christian Rap?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 3, 2007 1:37:08 GMT -5
1. Nevermind-- Nirvana (extented to include all Nirvana albums) 2. Take your pick of any KISS album 3. Whatever White Stripes album had Seven Nation Army 4. Korn-- Follow the Leader 5. Kid Rock-- American whatever the hell.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 3, 2007 1:40:06 GMT -5
Aren't ICP secretly Christian Rap? If they are, they're gonna have a helluva hard time explaining the Neden Game.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 3, 2007 1:46:07 GMT -5
hinder anything by pearl jam(having vedder not give out the lyrics makes it worse) U2 metallica for lettin ol' lars tell the world "downloading is wrong..................unless you pay us first" john mayer again,anything by him. people obsess over a guy who doesnt have the looks and is a one hit wonder Gonna have to disagree on Mayer. I find his songs to be very well-written. One of the best singer-songwriters of our generation, in my personal opinion. Plus, he's DAMN hot.
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