Back To The future Appreciation.

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i'm surprised it's gone on this long. most of my threads die within minutes.

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kiddobradley said:

rra said:

I dunno, would you call your mother a ho?

If you refuse to call your parents or spouse or kids a certain term....its a safe bet that such a term shouldn't be uttered by a public figure at anyone. Safe bet? Yes?

But again, off topic.

BTW, wasn't John Lithgow the original choice for the Doc?

Yeah, but to be fired over it? Laughable.

He should of just refused to apologize. Would've killed the whole thing.

Let's just end it, though. No need to hijack a good thread.

You're right.

Besides, Imus will win his lawsuit. Everybody wins.

HAPPY HAPPY

JOY JOY!

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anybody who is interested here's the full movie for part 3

www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/4/1273

[Stu]

Can anyone summarize what would've happened if the sequel turned out as written in that script that was posted?

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to be honest. I didn't read the script.

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jguy4life said:

Can anyone summarize what would've happened if the sequel turned out as written in that script that was posted?

Basically the 1st Act would have been the same as the movie we got, save for a few changes.

In the movie, Marty buys the book simply out of being a yuppie greedy bastard that he is. In the script, he does it with the intention of being financially settled for the future of 2015, where his kids don't end up being total complete losers.

The girlfriend isn't immediately knocked out/useless like she was in the movie. She & Marty split off in this 2015, where she comes upon their home. Its after meeting her future self that is when the story begins that whole "she's seen too much!" crap.

There isn't the "You're FIRED!!!" scene either, but instead Marty and his wife are minimum-wage losers who keep suffering because of Marty's numerous failing "get rich" schemes, and they're screwed because of the whole "Just put your mind to it!" nonsense.

Now for the 2nd act, its practically the same as the movie, except George McFly isn't murdered by Biff. He was killed in a car accident (same wreck that in the REAL timeline, he lives because he's rushed to a nearby hospital. After Biff gets the Almanac, the hospital is destroyed to make room for his casino/hotel, and McFly simply dies).

And now for the 3rd Act, in 1967. If BTTF 2's sequences in 1955 tried to be a fun "different angle" on the same events we had seen before, the 3rd act of this script is practically the FIRST movie, but condensed down to the essential beats in the year of 1967, except its the hero trying to make sure that his conception still happens.

Whats weird is, how much this script plays back to the first film to the point of repetition. Marty has YET another family dinner with his mother's family, Marty is having to orchestrate in performing around a large crowd regarding his parents (instead of doing a rock concert for the school dance, its speaking at an Anti-War rally) and basically, its like the 2nd half of Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake.

Of course, doing that whole 3rd act is when Marty happens to meet up with the 1967 version of Doc, while the 1985 Doc is trying to avoid contact with him. This '67 Doc helps Marty, stranded in the past again, with '85 Doc trying to get the essential money ready in time.....

The best scene is when the '67 Doc, not aware of his future counterpart, creates his new way of getting Marty BACK to the future again, this time with a scheme involving powerlines & some canyons. Marty asks how he got the idea, and Doc said he dropped some Acid and it all came to him.*

Anyway, so Marty gets his conception on schedule, he and 1985 Doc, helped in coordination by the '67 Doc, are able to haul ass back to 1985 (and having to shed pounds, their rip the car of its doors and jack to reach 88 mph) and there isn't the DeLorean destroyed by the train or whatever.

The finale is similar to BTTF 3, where Marty is offered a deal to make easy cash off a bank robber gig, which he tells them to screw off. Mind you, this script doesn't have any of the "chicken" taunting that the hero can't seem to refuse to back down from.

Similar to BTTF 3, Marty finds out that he accidently took his son's blue plastic card from 2015, which had showed his failing grades & arrests. Except now, its BLANK. Doc explains that the future isn
't written, Doc goes off on his own journeys, and thats it.

Interesting to note, there is a storyline in the movie about the Peabodys. Remember the old man who tries to shoot at the "UFO" in the first movie? Poor guy went nuts from that experience, sees it again in '67 and is startled.....but once he sees the DeLorean leave for 85, and one of the jacked DeLorean doors fall off to the ground, he uses it to launch his own UFO career. Cute, but pointless subplot.

*=An inside joke at TAXI, right?

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jguy4life said:

Can anyone summarize what would've happened if the sequel turned out as written in that script that was posted?

I read it a couple weeks ago, and here's what I can recall without going through it again:

For the most part, it starts out the same as Part II: They go to 2015 because there are problems with Marty's and Jennifer's kids, with some minor differences here and there. The major differences: We find out that George McFly died in 2013 and after passing, his money was used to help add a new Emergency Room wing to a hospital. In 1973, he got into a car accident and nearly died, but that hospital saved his life and as a result, he wanted to donate his millions to it.

So after some varying problems are dealt with, they go back to 1985 but, like in Part II, it's an alternate 1985 where Biff has millions from the Almanac. But instead of going back to 1955 to when young Biff got his hands on the book, they go to 1967. Marty uses 1967 Doc (who does LSD and other drugs and drives a Harley) to help construct a crazy method of getting back to 1985 after the Mr. Fusion gets destroyed (involves a giant canyon). There are other things going on too, like Marty needing to make sure that his Mom and Dad can make their trip to San Francisco on their anniversary (the night of his conception, otherwise he fades away).

There's a lot in there that was used for Part II, I noticed a few jokes were held over here and there. It really is all over the place at times and there's a lot of material, seems like it would be a very lengthy movie. There's almost too much, really. But overall it's a very interesting read if you ever want to kill 25-30 minutes. About 150 pages long and very entertaining.

[Erik Majorwitz]

Marty!

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insomniac34 said:

jguy4life said:

Can anyone summarize what would've happened if the sequel turned out as written in that script that was posted?

I read it a couple weeks ago, and here's what I can recall without going through it again:

For the most part, it starts out the same as Part II: They go to 2015 because there are problems with Marty's and Jennifer's kids, with some minor differences here and there. The major differences: We find out that George McFly died in 2013 and after passing, his money was used to help add a new Emergency Room wing to a hospital. In 1973, he got into a car accident and nearly died, but that hospital saved his life and as a result, he wanted to donate his millions to it.

So after some varying problems are dealt with, they go back to 1985 but, like in Part II, it's an alternate 1985 where Biff has millions from the Almanac. But instead of going back to 1955 to when young Biff got his hands on the book, they go to 1967. Marty uses 1967 Doc (who does LSD and other drugs and drives a Harley) to help construct a crazy method of getting back to 1985 after the Mr. Fusion gets destroyed (involves a giant canyon). There are other things going on too, like Marty needing to make sure that his Mom and Dad can make their trip to San Francisco on their anniversary (the night of his conception, otherwise he fades away).

There's a lot in there that was used for Part II, I noticed a few jokes were held over here and there. It really is all over the place at times and there's a lot of material, seems like it would be a very lengthy movie. There's almost too much, really. But overall it's a very interesting read if you ever want to kill 25-30 minutes. About 150 pages long and very entertaining.

Pretty much correct.

Again, its an early draft, and it shows. Some good ideas stayed and were further developed, others were aborted.

Like the 1967 approach. Very interesting, but its just WAY too much like the first film. After the substantial 1st and 2nd acts, we then get the 3rd act, and its just...too much. Its like a movie of its own shaved and peeled to squeeze into this movie.

Plus, how doesn't his mother not recognize him as the same kid from 1955? Surely after only 12 years, she would have noticed it was Marty. I mean, why didn't Gale/Zemeckis simply play on that fact. I mean, make use of it.

Ultimately, they were wise to just flat out drop the 1967 angle, or at least the narrative approach they were going with it.

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rra said:

Pretty much correct.

Again, its an early draft, and it shows. Some good ideas stayed and were further developed, others were aborted.

Like the 1967 approach. Very interesting, but its just WAY too much like the first film. After the substantial 1st and 2nd acts, we then get the 3rd act, and its just...too much. Its like a movie of its own shaved and peeled to squeeze into this movie.

Plus, how doesn't his mother not recognize him as the same kid from 1955? Surely after only 12 years, she would have noticed it was Marty. I mean, why didn't Gale/Zemeckis simply play on that fact. I mean, make use of it.

Ultimately, they were wise to just flat out drop the 1967 angle, or at least the narrative approach they were going with it.

It ticks me off every time I watch the first movie. Sam hits Marty with the car, Lorraine falls head over heels for him, she wants to screw him in the car on the night of the dance, he performs on stage at the dance, she names her second son "Marty"... yet when she sees her son in 1985, she can't see that this is the same guy from 30 years earlier? And then the same stuff happens in the Part II original draft.

Also, you could tell that Gale pretty much knew that Glover wouldn't be a part of the movie since, even in the early draft, he appeared only at the very end for one scene.

I would've liked to see the "Mirror Image" bit between 1967 Doc and 1985 Doc, that sounds terrific.

I also liked the Peabody cameos, as well as Strickland playing Biff's chief of security. Also, it was interesting how Gale wanted to have it where, when one of the characters hurt themselves (pricked their finger, hit their head, etc.), the 2015 or 1967 version would also feel the pain. There are a lot of these small differences that, as a big BTTF, I loved reading.

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I think it's funny that they had two reason for hanging george mcfly upside down in the second movie

reason 1. so people wouldn't notice it wasn't crispin glover
reason 2. if crispin did agree to do the sequel at last minute they'd get to hang him upside down.

that made me laugh so hard when I heard that. I even called my g/f (who is a crispin fan) just to tell her about it. lol

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insomniac34 said:

rra said:

Pretty much correct.

Again, its an early draft, and it shows. Some good ideas stayed and were further developed, others were aborted.

Like the 1967 approach. Very interesting, but its just WAY too much like the first film. After the substantial 1st and 2nd acts, we then get the 3rd act, and its just...too much. Its like a movie of its own shaved and peeled to squeeze into this movie.

Plus, how doesn't his mother not recognize him as the same kid from 1955? Surely after only 12 years, she would have noticed it was Marty. I mean, why didn't Gale/Zemeckis simply play on that fact. I mean, make use of it.

Ultimately, they were wise to just flat out drop the 1967 angle, or at least the narrative approach they were going with it.

It ticks me off every time I watch the first movie. Sam hits Marty with the car, Lorraine falls head over heels for him, she wants to screw him in the car on the night of the dance, he performs on stage at the dance, she names her second son "Marty"... yet when she sees her son in 1985, she can't see that this is the same guy from 30 years earlier? And then the same stuff happens in the Part II original draft.

Also, you could tell that Gale pretty much knew that Glover wouldn't be a part of the movie since, even in the early draft, he appeared only at the very end for one scene.

I would've liked to see the "Mirror Image" bit between 1967 Doc and 1985 Doc, that sounds terrific.

I also liked the Peabody cameos, as well as Strickland playing Biff's chief of security. Also, it was interesting how Gale wanted to have it where, when one of the characters hurt themselves (pricked their finger, hit their head, etc.), the 2015 or 1967 version would also feel the pain. There are a lot of these small differences that, as a big BTTF, I loved reading.

See, that fact about the first movie never bothered me.

I mean, they didn't have any photos of Marty. Since Marty was what, conceived in 1967, that guy was only a blurring memory 12 years later. By in the 70s and 80s after Marty grows up, the parents probably thought, "You know, he so reminds us of him." But never would they make the direct connection.

But, buying this same schtick in 1967? No I don't buy that at all.

Anyway, yeah I also loved that "Mirror" sequence. The idea of the past/future-selves feeling the same pain is a nice touch. Poor Mr. Strickland, jobbing up slackers.....hell, he probably likes that job.

Again, its worth reading and visualizing "what if..."

Or better yet, reading a GOOD draft of a lame movie...like MYSTERY MEN. If they had kept that one draft I had read, and simply polished the edges, it would have been the GHOSTBUSTERS for the superhero genre.

I'm serious.

Too bad Ben STiller signed on. We go from a Mr. Furious who actually had a superpower, albeit untapped*, to the usual Stiller-protagonist: A complete loser of losers that you the audience can't relate to at all, except for someone to kick his useless ass.

Tsk.

*=I mean, take that script draft climax. The baddie has his girlfriend, and Furious literally climbs the walls of the fortress with his fists and his anger. So awesome, of course it had to be dropped!

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dudeguy said:

I think it's funny that they had two reason for hanging george mcfly upside down in the second movie

reason 1. so people wouldn't notice it wasn't crispin glover
reason 2. if crispin did agree to do the sequel at last minute they'd get to hang him upside down.

that made me laugh so hard when I heard that. I even called my g/f (who is a crispin fan) just to tell her about it. lol

Not to mention that they didn't care for working with Glover on the first movie. I mean, all people in the film business do try to get back at each other.

Take RESERVOIR DOGS. You have I think a scene where Tim Roth shoots a woman. Well, that woman was his dialect coach, and he hated her. He gets QT to put her in the movie for him to "kill" her......just so funny.

[davidC();]

Nobody calls me chicken!

But seriously check this out - www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y

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ever notice the very first time we see the deloreon work (when einstein travels one minute into the future) the car stays in park while the rear wheels spin to get it up to 88. but every time after that they need a big runway?

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valens said:

I'm still waiting for my hover board.

You can't hoverboard over water unless you got POWER!

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The two things that really, really bothered me, and there big things. They knew the lightning would strike at 10:04. Okay? Thats 60 seconds for it to strike on, but Marty just happens to hit it right then.

The other thing is, Doc calculated how many feet he needed to be in order for him to hit in time, so that prolly means he had to have the gas ALL the way down the whole time. But Marty didnt get the car going till like 30 seconds later, so that means Docs calculations were WAY off, and if he woulda hit the gas when he was suppose to, he wouldnt have made it...

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ravenm said:

The two things that really, really bothered me, and there big things. They knew the lightning would strike at 10:04. Okay? Thats 60 seconds for it to strike on, but Marty just happens to hit it right then.

The other thing is, Doc calculated how many feet he needed to be in order for him to hit in time, so that prolly means he had to have the gas ALL the way down the whole time. But Marty didnt get the car going till like 30 seconds later, so that means Docs calculations were WAY off, and if he woulda hit the gas when he was suppose to, he wouldnt have made it...

it was supossed to be a gradual incline to 88. but because of the stall, marty just slammed on the gas. it's explained in the movie.

[Joekishi]

I want those power lacing shoes and self drying jacket NOW.

It's supposed to be in 2 years when all that stuff exist!

Coem on Nike release those shoes.

Oh and I'm all for a BTTF part 4 finale, the script seemed perfect for the newer audiences.

Also I loved Middle Aged marty.

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basicboogeynomix said:

I want those power lacing shoes and self drying jacket NOW.

It's supposed to be in 2 years when all that stuff exist!

no it's not. the movie took place in 2015.