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Post by The Lach is very tired on Aug 18, 2007 14:09:22 GMT -5
I have noticed that WWE have removed him from links regarding title wins and such. What do you think about this? I think that this draws more attention to him compared to if they just had a link saying he beat such & such for this title t this place etc. Mods feel free to lock this if it is against the rules.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Aug 18, 2007 14:11:10 GMT -5
I don't like it when history is deliberately erased or shut down.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Aug 18, 2007 14:16:17 GMT -5
WWE simply cannot be seen to be affiliated with him. Its that simple. They have to cut all ties they ever had with him and if that means erasing him from their history then so be it.
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Post by WWHHHD on Aug 18, 2007 14:19:15 GMT -5
Give it time. Right now they are standing away from what happend as they should. Let things calm down a bit for a year or so and Benoit will be recognized as a wrestler and wrestler only.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2007 14:20:22 GMT -5
For now, they should erase him from history. The media is constantly watching WWE, to carry on involving him would be bad for business.
But, in a few years time when this whole thing has been forgotten about, I see no reason why they can't show him again. Of course, he will never be as recognized as he once was, but they should atleast be able to show him on DVDs and such.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Aug 18, 2007 14:27:39 GMT -5
I don't think they should do it. It's an insult to our intelligence(along with almost everything else WWE) and no matter how hard they try, they will never erase him. Also, it really sucks that they do it for us 24/7 suscribers, as it ruins shows.
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Post by Bobeddy on Aug 18, 2007 14:30:42 GMT -5
I don't mind them removing the links regarding the details of the title wins. As long as his name is still listed in the history, that's fine by me.
If they were removing his name completely that would just be impractical as it would create a whole load of holes in the histories.
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Post by bshadye413 on Aug 18, 2007 14:42:17 GMT -5
For now, they should erase him from history. The media is constantly watching WWE, to carry on involving him would be bad for business. But, in a few years time when this whole thing has been forgotten about, I see no reason why they can't show him again. Of course, he will never be as recognized as he once was, but they should atleast be able to show him on DVDs and such. I very much doubt this will ever be forgotten. This will forever be his legacy and he'll never be remembered as just a great wrestler. I think after time passes they might stop editing him off DVDs and 24/7. But for right now I absolutely understand why they dont want any mention of him and I dont see that changing anytime soon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2007 14:50:02 GMT -5
For now, they should erase him from history. The media is constantly watching WWE, to carry on involving him would be bad for business. But, in a few years time when this whole thing has been forgotten about, I see no reason why they can't show him again. Of course, he will never be as recognized as he once was, but they should atleast be able to show him on DVDs and such. I very much doubt this will ever be forgotten. This will forever be his legacy and he'll never be remembered as just a great wrestler. I think after time passes they might stop editing him off DVDs and 24/7. But for right now I absolutely understand why they dont want any mention of him and I dont see that changing anytime soon What I was trying to say was, bring him 'back' once the media attention has gone away. It always eventually does for everything. The only time I can see it being picked up again now is if there is a movie made about this.
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Post by Parrish on Aug 18, 2007 15:04:33 GMT -5
we are only a few months gone from Benoit brutally murdering his wife and their 7 year old son.
So give them a break if they aren't recognizing his WWE title reigns for right now. 5-10 years from now his accompliments will be known and probably recognized again.
Right now WWE is erasing them from their memory, not only because of the murder, but because they most likely blame them for all the steroid and drug mess they are gonna have to explain.
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Post by Zutroy on Aug 18, 2007 16:00:34 GMT -5
I think it was necessary to not mention him on TV since it happened, but I don't think he should be edited out of the History of wrestling when he was a very large part of it at times.
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Post by The Great El' PANDA King on Aug 18, 2007 16:01:36 GMT -5
How many threads on Benoit will there be about him and how no one talks about him?
He killed two people, they don't want to be associated with him anymore.
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Post by Hensley on Aug 18, 2007 16:03:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it'd be too good of an idea if they were to really associate with him anymore anyway.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Aug 18, 2007 17:10:37 GMT -5
It's wrong. The NFL doesn't try to pretend O.J. Simpson never existed.
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Post by spec on Aug 18, 2007 17:24:58 GMT -5
Didn't Jimmy Snuka kill his girlfriend and didn't Vince help cover it up? Can't see them eradicating The Superfly from all records, but then again it wasn't all over the media, if it did actaully happen that is.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 18, 2007 17:27:28 GMT -5
It's wrong. The NFL doesn't try to pretend O.J. Simpson never existed. Well, I disagree with the Benoit embargo, but with the OJ Simpson thing, it was never proven that he killed those people, that's just the assumption the majority of the people make. I don't agree or disagree, but that's probably the distinction between NFL acknowledging OJ and WWE not acknowledging Benoit. One did what he did, then killed himself, making it pretty obvious what happened. The other didn't.
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Post by MadLinus on Aug 18, 2007 17:27:57 GMT -5
But OJ wasn't proven guilty either, even though its probable he did it. Benoit was pretty much proven, so its a little bit different.
I don't know why you people think its wrong for them to erase him. Sure, he was a great wrestler. I loved him as a performer. But in the grand scheme of things, that really doesn't matter a whole lot anymore. Why should WWE honor a man who couldn't honor his family?
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Post by Freakzilla on Aug 18, 2007 17:52:21 GMT -5
I think the WWE in the meantime are doing the right thing. They don't need anymore controversy by featuring Benoit in their shows or promoting his appearances in old ppvs/dvds etc. The problem is too many people, including many fans on this board, cannot seperate a wrestler's in ring persona from their real life persona. Despite what some may say there are a lot of fans who base their opinion on a wrestler soley by their reputation backstage and their actions outside the ring. I mean look at the hate that Hogan, Michaels, Warrior and Goldberg to name just a few get from the IWC. Whether it be politics, or bad attitude, or holding people back - they are judged by these things rather than their in- ring persona and attitude which is usually completely the opposite.
What I'm saying is if people can't seperate the wrestler's I've mentioned from their in-ring/real life persona, then how can the casual fan expect do the same for Benoit who murdered his own wife and child? It would give the WWE more bad press that they don't need.
Probably in years to come they will be able to talk about him more and show some of his matches but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Post by tarheelfan on Aug 18, 2007 18:04:32 GMT -5
Ten to fifteen years frpm now in the long scheme of things Benoit is just another dime a dozen wrestler. Some of you act like the absence of Benoit from the industry due to his untimely death and removal from links hurts wrestling. The fact is that if we are honest with ourselves that he was an upper mid card wrestler AT THE VERY BEST. I have probably been watching pro wrestling longer than most here (25+ years) and trust me there have been better technical wrestlers than Benoit. I'm not trying to discount Benoits wrestling ability. He was a good wrestler but he lacked in charisma and ring psychology and his matches were too robotic and scripted. But I think a lot of people are acting like he was a legend when he was nowhere even close to that. In the end he was a mid card wrestler who had his moments due to his longetivity IMHO. Benoit was good but I've seen a hundred wrestlers who were overall better.
The WWE can easily afford to remove Benoit because it wasn't like he was a mega mainstream superstar.
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Post by rzombie1988 on Aug 18, 2007 21:27:16 GMT -5
Ten to fifteen years frpm now in the long scheme of things Benoit is just another dime a dozen wrestler. Some of you act like the absence of Benoit from the industry due to his untimely death and removal from links hurts wrestling. The fact is that if we are honest with ourselves that he was an upper mid card wrestler AT THE VERY BEST. I have probably been watching pro wrestling longer than most here (25+ years) and trust me there have been better technical wrestlers than Benoit. I'm not trying to discount Benoits wrestling ability. He was a good wrestler but he lacked in charisma and ring psychology and his matches were too robotic and scripted. But I think a lot of people are acting like he was a legend when he was nowhere even close to that. In the end he was a mid card wrestler who had his moments due to his longetivity IMHO. Benoit was good but I've seen a hundred wrestlers who were overall better. The WWE can easily afford to remove Benoit because it wasn't like he was a mega mainstream superstar. Sorry, but Benoit was awesome. He won titles in 4 different countries, trained in two of the hardest dojo's in the world, was very good for 17 years including being involved in a countless number of great matches, was over, inspired many people to become wrestlers, and was probably the most loved wrestler on the internet. Good luck with arguement, you're very much going to need it.
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