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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 5:38:57 GMT -5
Yeah, Matt is so turning on his brother. And Jeff Hardy is the most gullible man since Sting. He has an excuse, hes high all the time. He probably already forgot what Matt did. Or Matt just bought him a bag of hash with a SORRY BRO note attached to it.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 5:31:19 GMT -5
Meh, I wanted to like the guy because I am always a fan of dark gimmicks. His debut match with MVP sucked badly though. After that I lost interest. I dont think he should have been released, but probably retooled. I haven't seen much of his stuff but that match showed me nothing impressive. His theme was terrible too, as were the vignettes. His debut match was a problem, however, they should'nt have kept him off air and then released him. They should've did more with him, especially his gimmick. He didn't do anything carnival related in it, other than talk in that stupid language of his and twirl around. What he showed elsewhere should've been incorporated in television. And you're right, WWE is so bent on catering to kids, they have to neuter him. He would've done alot better off in the Attitude Era, maybe somewhere in the Undertaker/Kane mix. A man can dream. IMO he should have been a heel on ECW. Play up the freak aspect, how he does things like breathe fire and swallow swords so he has a high pain tolerance and can go toe to toe with guys like Dreamer in Extreme Rules matches. It just seemed to me like they had no clue to book him. I didnt expect him to debut as a face, for one. Even from the crappy vignettes I could tell he had more potential as a heel. Then he just randomly showed up with his terrible, Doinklike theme and generic entrance. Obviously someone wasn't too high on him for whatever reason, and threw him out there to fail.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 4:52:43 GMT -5
Meh, I wanted to like the guy because I am always a fan of dark gimmicks. His debut match with MVP sucked badly though. After that I lost interest. I dont think he should have been released, but probably retooled. I haven't seen much of his stuff but that match showed me nothing impressive.
His theme was terrible too, as were the vignettes.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 4:09:25 GMT -5
If you asked me, I would nominate the Orton vs. HHH feud right now.
Why?
A tremendous buildup which led to one of the lamest WM main events ever, including a very dead crowd and probably the worst WM stipulation I ever heard of, which was worthy of being the stip in a throwaway Impact main event.
This was followed by more weeks of Orton and Legacy being buried by HHH and Shane McMahon of all people.
The feud had four or five endings, only to start back up again. People are probably going to have varying opinions about this, and I had some hesitation myself because I was digging the feud up until WM 25...but I really feel it is one of the worst main event feuds in years.
Its like they tried to recapture the spark of an Attitude Era type feud, but made it completely one sided and devoid of any booking logic. It also doesn't help that Ortons character went from being a manipulative badass overnight to a completely ineffectual chickens*** for no reason at all.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 3:25:27 GMT -5
Not sure if they raised prices, but I went to Survivor Series a few years ago and paid around 70 for my seat, if I remember correctly.
They were pretty good seats, not on the floor but a few rows away.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 3:22:53 GMT -5
I am hoping every single jobber they have beaten up returns and attacks them all at once. Kozlov and Zeke are never seen again as the jobbers band together and form a huge stable that rules ECW for the next 12 months. I am hoping for an army of jobbers, but instead we see Zeke and Kozlov destroy them with no problem. Of course I'm also hoping for a smart jobber, one that just runs away when Kozlov or Zeke get in the ring for the match. It better ultimately lead to a tag team, though. I was envisioning the jobbers to be like 20 strong, they all kamikaze Kozekiel who manage to take out like ten of them until weapons come into play. Cue massive beatdown injuring the two monsters for good. The remaining ten jobbers then salute their fallen comrades and decide to stay together for the good of the resistance.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 2:17:19 GMT -5
I am just getting this hilarious image in my head of current Lawler suddenly going into heel mode during commentary and calling Legacy a bunch of flaming fags.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 12, 2009 2:07:04 GMT -5
Twitter is a young guy with a lot of promise. Triple H is just up to his usual tricks, trying to bury the poor guy before he gains any momentum.
f*** you HHH.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 22:47:01 GMT -5
I am hoping every single jobber they have beaten up returns and attacks them all at once. Kozlov and Zeke are never seen again as the jobbers band together and form a huge stable that rules ECW for the next 12 months.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 22:01:29 GMT -5
Sure hope the Staypuft Marshmallow Man wins here, the Pillsbury Doughboy has been on top for too long.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 21:33:19 GMT -5
Awesome to see the Hurricane. Too bad the announcers could care less. Maybe they could care less...but I couldn't. Talk about regression.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 21:31:24 GMT -5
I wonder if Gregory Helms is Hurricane Helms?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 21:27:59 GMT -5
I really want Burchill to win here. He wont, but I want him to.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 21:26:35 GMT -5
Bellas are better at announcing than Lilian.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 20:06:59 GMT -5
He used it after Lesnar left, called it the F-500 Forgot if it was him or Matt Morgan during his WWE run that used it. Morgan used it too, as well as the Hellavator. I dont want Big Show to use the F5 really. He doesnt need it. I was more thinking someone like Zeke or Koslov.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 20:00:09 GMT -5
Someone really needs to take up the F5, preferably a bigger guy. Its a great move and Lesnar wont be coming back.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 19:49:06 GMT -5
I have liked all of Takers characterizations.
Ministry being my favorite.
His current persona is getting boring though. I would like him to finish his career out by combining both Biker and Deadman into one. An evil dead guy with supernatural powers who also talks smack and can just flat out beat your ass. To me, that would be the best way for him to go out on.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 19:14:27 GMT -5
Orton is as good as Anderson, if not a little better. If Orton would've been in Val's spot during the Attitude Era, then Anderson would have been in TAKA Michinoku's. On the Strong Style/Safe Style comparison, one reason the WWE guys don't generally work that stiff, aside from most not being well versed enough in the stiff Japanese styles to do them without killing one-another, is that they work more dates. Japanese guys get more time off, thus more time to recuperate from being dropped on their heads and necks like that. There would likely be more tragedies like Misawa's death if the Japanese boys had to work the same schedule as the WWE guys. The only reason Ken is getting a pass from so many is because it's Orton doing the complaining. If someone like Jericho made the complaints, this board would be all over Anderson's ass like stink on a turd. On that note, at a house show, Jericho did a back suplex safely and shouted, "That's how it's done Kennedy!" That's one more speaking out against this guy, and it's an IWC darling. GENERALIZATIONS AHOY! Nothing new for this board though, both sides of these sorts of issues tend to pull these out to prove, well, I am not sure. Since when is Kennedy ever supported by uber IWC types or smarks? When he got released, most of this board let out a collective raspberry in his direction. I actually like Orton A LOT more than I ever liked Kennedy. Used to hate him, but ever since his Foley feud I have been entertained by his work. Jericho is in a much better position to be complaining than Orton. Bad example. Orton is pretty fragile and botches consistently. Jericho is tough and rarely botches. Like I said before, pot kettle black. You cant drop a guy flat on his face one night and then complain about some other guy dropping you on your neck the next. In addition, I still think Kennedy is at fault here. MY question is why was WWE management so stupid as to continually push and place a known hazard in the ring with some of its most valuable main eventers? Cos the guy has charisma? How is that charisma going to benefit the company if he injures Cena and Orton or shortens their careers? What I am saying is, I blame WWE management first for being irresponsible, Kennedy second for being dangerous to work with. As for Orton, he is being a whiner and certainly a bit of a hypocrite.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 18:03:27 GMT -5
I just like that a day after almost killing Chris Jericho, Randy is still complaining about one botched suplex that happened almost three months ago.
Pot kettle black.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Aug 11, 2009 17:38:09 GMT -5
Agree with all points, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed RAW this week, for what it was.
Problem is though, anytime I choose to watch RAW anymore, I sort of watch it with WCW 2000 goggles on. That is to say, I have come to expect silliness and nonsensicality.
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