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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 20:49:03 GMT -5
I've always found it a little strange that the Dead are considered such a druggie band, since like you said, the music is really more country influenced and not very psychedelic at all. Meanwhile, bands like the Stooges and the Velvet Underground that made much trippier records are considered prototypical punk groups. I think The Dead are considered a hippie band, therefore the drug thing just kind of comes with the territory. Same goes for the modern day Hippie groups like Dave Matthews Band and others. It's not so much the style of the music, but the culture of the fan base that's to blame for the stigma. Yeah it's too bad because most of the people who dismiss them as burnouts are missing some pretty quality music. Garcia could write a complex song while making it sound like a simple 12 bar blues. And Robert Hunter is without doubt in my mind top five rock lyricists of all time.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 20:45:06 GMT -5
Rush
The Band doesn't count because Levon Helm is American.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 20:44:05 GMT -5
Worst super hero movie ever after that whole Bat man fiasco.
I can't tell you how disappointed I was with that hunk of crap.
Time to re-cast and re-tool the entire series.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 20:42:04 GMT -5
This wrestling and music comparison really applies across the board for all art forms. There's nothing actually wrong with liking technique over actual aesthetic quality nor vice versa, but it is wrong to criticize others because they don't feel the same way. The key to technique is knowing how to apply it in artistically sublime ways which reflects better on the performers' artistic integrity; Technical musicians are more capable of making distinctly different songs than simpler musicians, which has merit to itself. I am in the "Happy Medium" camp because good songs with technical writing sound better than either extreme. I watched a dance troupe perform and the woman who runs it, literally stole a bunch of my wife's moves (she's also a dancer, Persian style) but the truth lies in the choreography, it looked like a bunch of flashy moves set to middle school choreography. A true professional has a depth and understanding un-matched by the untrained. There is no comparison. Song writing or musical composition is no different. I'm sure the parents of the girls dancing yesterday were more than overjoyed and couldn't care less about who ripped whose moves, or licks in the case of music. Ultimately if you like it's good, if you don't it sucks.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 20:37:08 GMT -5
Good musicians borrow, Great musicians steal, and the best song writers are junkies. That's not entirely true. Some of the best song writers are alcoholics. The alcohol just inspires the heroine. Name a couple good alcoholic song writers who weren't junkies and I may see your point...I for one can't think of any.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 7, 2008 18:59:38 GMT -5
While I don't really listen to the last two bands, Tool and Dream Theatre are the best thing going today for my money. The only bands I'd pay big bucks to see. And I ain't really even a fan.
My vote for best American band is the Grateful Dead. I never was nor will be a hippie, but the something distinctly Americana about the band. Their improvisations was based on Coltrane and Bird, they toured almost exclusively in the US throughout there 30 touring career. most of Garcia's songs were based on his years as a bluegrass/folk player. And they achieved something no other band has ever done, nor may ever do again. Create legions of stinky ass M@#$$% F#@%$%% to follow them around the country like gypsies and making them the top grossing act for a few years running.
The not the best at what they do, they're the only ones that do what they do -Bill Graham
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 22:40:02 GMT -5
Hey is Double D Dudley and Deus Ex Machina one and the same?
Damn, I thought they were two people.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 22:36:47 GMT -5
Classic Every gay ass song that came out between 1982-1989. All of 'em. Thank you.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 22:33:37 GMT -5
I'm posting here for old times sake, I got no idea where the hell anybody is anymore, but damn if I miss a thread with Asics, Spike and B.A. - All we need is.........what the hell was the kid with the......hold on.........what the f@#$ was his name.....Obi!
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 22:29:25 GMT -5
P-rimus
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 22:26:27 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat as the original poster here -- after learning to play a bit of guitar, doing some basic production work, and the like, I definitely look at music in a whole new way. Picking out different pieces when I hear a recording, really noticing when a line has been repeated in the background, noticing when two dueling guitars are playing in the opposing speakers, etc... and it goes both ways, sometimes I can hear that and appreciate the hard work a little more, and sometimes I hear it and think "wow, that's such a simple concoction -- damn them for making assloads of cash for doing something so simple!" But at the end of the day, I still love Kid Rock's quote... "If it looks good, you'll see it. If it sounds good, you'll hear it. If it's marketed right, you'll buy it. But if it's real... you'll feel it." Good musicians borrow, Great musicians steal, and the best song writers are junkies.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 21:39:04 GMT -5
Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein.
Best movie ever.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 21:38:26 GMT -5
I don't care if they can play or not, as long as when I'm listening to it it makes sense at the time, it's good (subjective), and connect with it, on any number of levels.
There are times I can listen to something and truly get it and then later on some time I turn it off as soon as I hear it.
So I don't know I listen to musicianship when it's necessary, case in point the school band festivals I go to, and American Idol. Otherwise I either like it or I don't.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 4, 2008 21:33:52 GMT -5
Yahoooooooooooo!
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 2, 2008 21:48:57 GMT -5
The Star Spangled Banner
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Apr 2, 2008 21:47:55 GMT -5
I'll only watch it if Tom is the guy in the rowboat.
The shark not working and John Williams was what made that movie immortal.
my favorite movie.
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Nov 3, 2007 23:52:06 GMT -5
Greatest women's champion.
A real class act.
RIP
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Jun 27, 2007 0:26:20 GMT -5
Who's Sean Stasiak?
Rest of wrestling for 400 Alex.......
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Aug 18, 2007 0:28:01 GMT -5
This thread should be moved to Off Topic
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Jun 27, 2007 0:36:50 GMT -5
These two paragraphs appear to be the sole reason everyone is speculating that the Crossface was used to kill the child. PLEASE STOP. This is just lousy, lousy reporting, with the writer inexplicably attempting to make the connection to Benoit's finisher by mentioning it in the next paragraph. There's no evidence. It's actually contradictory, since the Crossface isn't a chokehold. The writer is just trying to stir speculation in the absence of real details, which unfortunately we're probably never going to have. Actually, have to agree with you to an extent there, since I was the one who initially brought this to the board to begin with. Again, it appears to have been something similar, and the journalist couldn't quite make it work, so just threw them together in a linking. Reporters will string together anything that sounds the least bit fantastic until told otherwise. So sad this is.
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