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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 27, 2007 6:25:13 GMT -5
I respect Triple H for what he's done in wrestling, but that was ridiculous. My biggest problem with HHH is, what has he actually done in wrestling? He's an average worker, and an average talker. He's got decent height (6-4?), I guess. But he hasn't accomplished a single thing in wrestling that can't be immediately tied directly to his being a kiss-ass to the Kliq, a roid-freak, and the boss's son-in-law. WWE has ever only pushed HHH because he's a cockroach. He will NOT leave. His contract was up in 1996 or 97, he could've went to WCW and joined the NWO, but didn't because he wanted to be a big fish in a small pond (back then). HBK almost even left, and HHH would've stayed. Then, he played off his alliances with Hall, Nash, HBK into "Degeneration X", an NWO ripoff, which rejuvenated his dead career. Good thing he did, because in 1996, he was essentially Bobby Roode with long blond hair. The only reason HHH is a "star" is the same reason that the AWA made Greg Gagne & Larry Zbyszko "stars", or the reason that TNA makes Jeff Jarrett a "star". HHH is family (or like Larry Z, he's married into it), and he won't leave like The Rock, Austin, Foley, Lesnar, Goldberg, Hogan, Jericho, Christian, RVD, or Angle. So you can depend on him always being there. So why not push him? As EWR says, the guy is "Unsackable". I still think that HHH has never drawn a dime to see him wrestle. He's just around WWE in top spots when there's nobody else around to give the ball.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 27, 2007 1:01:13 GMT -5
Triple H is the most overrated wrestler in history. It's a shame that he'll end up with more world title reigns than Flair. He only got where he is by...
1. Being the designated driver for Hall, Nash, and Michaels. 2. Pumping his body full of steroids. 3. Crotch-chopping, which he stole from Hall. 4. Marrying the boss's daughter.
His matches are boring. The majority of his in-ring promos are boring, and 10 minutes too long. All of his accomplishments are tainted.
I can't wait for him to come back and grace us with his unique brand of suckiness.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 25, 2007 10:52:17 GMT -5
John Morrison all the way. That guy is one great new entrance theme away from making major money in WWE.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 22, 2007 6:20:29 GMT -5
Khali should keep the belt for five years.
Seriously. Think of the PPV buyrate when he finally loses it.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 20:12:03 GMT -5
I don't know what to say about this video. (I broke the link due to the language). www.youtube.com/ watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc (sorry if somebody already posted this. don't come around these parts of the board often.)
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 20, 2007 17:29:00 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels as a jobber vs. Kamala in 1985 Mid South. (NOTE: There's a Kamala/Terry Taylor/Jake Roberts angle for the first couple minutes of the clip, then Michaels.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpAchWViq2k
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Aug 22, 2007 21:10:22 GMT -5
The robot one's my least favorite, but only because I can barely understand what the robot's saying (maybe it's my computer speakers).
Nevertheless, all the other ones are funny. The fourth one was so well put together, the ending actually got me to send TNA an e-mail, even though I felt like an incredible dork for doing so.
Good stuff, I hope this person makes more.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 30, 2007 19:35:09 GMT -5
Those videos weren't funny then, and aren't now. It is funny to remember how desperate Vince gets during full-blown panic mode.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jul 26, 2007 7:08:36 GMT -5
Imagine if the Undertaker hatched out of the egg. I'll bet that was discussed within the WWF too. I know this sounds like Wrestlecrap, and anti-Dave Meltzer/news-sites, but... At the time, I swear Meltzer or PWTorch reported that Mean Mark Callous (Undertaker) had just left WCW and was going to debut in WWF by hatching out of the egg at Survivor Series, and would therefore be known as "The Eggman". Google "Mark Callous, Calloway, The Eggman", and you'll find references to this. If Eggman was set to eventually feud with "The Walrus", wrestling would've hit cartoonish new lows that the years 1990-1993 couldn't ever imagine.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 27, 2007 2:49:23 GMT -5
That whole thing was super mean spirited. But at the time, many people in the industry (especially Ferrara apparently) despised Ross. There are plenty of stories out there that he got where he was in the business by being a sycophant, a backstabber, and was generally an absolutely miserable person to be around if you weren't one of his political allies. To top that off, he had Johnny Ace's current job in WWE back then, which is never a way to make more friends.
So, Bell's Palsy aside, I don't think there were too many people in WCW going, "You know, maybe we shouldn't do this", especially someone like Tony Schiavone, who Ross allegedly got fired from WCW earlier in their careers. That doesn't make it right, plus, the average fan doesn't know that Ross could be an enormous turdball, and it just came off tasteless, and unnecessarily kicking some guy who practically everybody at home likes. It was like making fun of Gordon Solie, something WCW also did during that time with Crowbar on guest commentary.
The Juvi playing college football line was one of my favorites. I grew up watching Ross in UWF, and if you think he drops football lines in too much now, it's nothing compared to his announcing during the 1980s.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Feb 9, 2008 3:13:21 GMT -5
I was only in 4th grade, but I thought Hulk was finished when he dropped the WWF belt to Warrior. I had no idea he'd become the biggest, best heel in the business for a time as "Hollywood" when I was in high school. Luckily for him, his jumping of the shark didn't take place when he was "Nuclear Mushroom Cloud Chest Hair" Hogan*... * - He could've gotten over when that picture was taken if he called himself "Doomsday". That would've been a pretty sweet name back in the late-1970s.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Feb 9, 2008 2:54:49 GMT -5
Wrestlemania VII (or shortly before that at the Rumble), when has-been, Iraqi Slaughter beat Warrior...and people started tuning out, killing the WWF momentum built from 1984-1990. Great, textbook booking to set up Hogan saving the day, but the Slaughter stuff happened at the wrong time, and turned lots of people off.
Plus, when you just played Skydome the year before, and you can't sell tickets, and you have to move Wrestlemania from the advertised, world famous, outdoor, 100,000-seat L.A. Coliseum to the dump that the Clippers used to play in...that's a pretty major business indicator.
...I realize the next Wrestlemania was at the Hoosier Dome, but that was an early day version of today's Wrestlemania. Quite the familiar Wrestlemania spectacle, and a fun time, but it wasn't happening during any boom period.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jan 26, 2008 7:01:07 GMT -5
Was there an angle that led to them copying the Warriors gimmick? I know about their feud after the bench press challenge, but was there any more to it? To be fair, "The Barbarian" gimmick started off as a copycat hybrid of Bruiser Brody/Missing Link as "King Konga" around the same time as the start of The Road Warriors on WTBS. That evolved into "Konga The Barbarian" in Mid-Atlantic/Georgia around the same time that the Road Warriors were in AWA. Warlord was just a juiced up guy that Dusty Rhodes put face-paint on and teamed him with Konga in NWA to feud with the Road Warriors in late-1987, because the popular LOD didn't have anymore heel teams to realistically feud with (since they finished with Midnight Express, Arn & Ole Anderson broke up, the Koloffs broke up, etc.). So that was the angle, I guess. They were intentionally the anti-Road Warriors in NWA, then Vince signed them and had the misguided vision to try and make them the real thing.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jan 10, 2008 5:10:42 GMT -5
He doesn't look bad. He's old.
And compare this to what he looked like during his short TNA PPV stint in 2004. He had short, dyed black hair (on the sides), a big bushy black beard, and all of his 1999-00 WCW hairplugs had fallen out...once his trenchcoat and cowboy hat fell off, he looked like a 175-pound, crazy old bald guy. Somebody on The Torch said he looked like a "burn victim wearing a fake beard".
Compared to those days, he looks healthy. And he's one of the best of all-time.
Leave Randy Alone!
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jan 5, 2008 9:19:06 GMT -5
In all honesty, it boggles the mind as to why Randy Savage hasn't been in one already. Maybe they asked and Savage didn't want to do it, but that's a missed opportunity. He's pitch perfect.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jan 4, 2008 13:37:20 GMT -5
You basically just listed everyone in line for a title shot. Not the #1 contenders.
Petey is not the #1 contender to the World Title, Scott Steiner is not the #1 contender to the X-Division Title, and B.G. James is not the #1 contender to the Tag Titles.
I know everybody thinks the "Feast or Fired" thing was stupid, but it was to win ONE singular shot at the title. That is not the #1 contendership, which is a ranking that puts you ahead of the group in line for a shot at a championship, but also a ranking that can be lost by losing to opponents ranked lower than you.
Before anyone says, "OMG, TNAZ TOO CONFUZING!!!", I basically just explained how any Top 10-25 works in any sport with rankings.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Jan 3, 2008 5:36:51 GMT -5
To be honest, "Jimmy Jacobs" looks like a young Perry Saturn (circa 1987), right after not being allowed into an INXS concert.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 31, 2007 18:33:29 GMT -5
Global on ESPN was probably the worst promotion I've ever seen on national TV. They had some real bright spots (young Waltman doing flips with a healthy neck, The Patriot, random guys like Gordy and Eddie Gilbert coming in), but that was a debacle.
I was around 10 when it was on, but it was so bad, I haven't even bothered to go back and revisit it. From my memory, they had a fictional owner, fake shows happening around the world, a GWF "world champion" in Europe or Asia that didn't exist, and more has-beens and relic jobbers from dead territories in Alabama/Georgia/Texas than you could shake a stick at. They even renamed WCCW's Sportatorium (basically an enormous garage and dump of a building) "The brand-new Global Dome". It was far more embarrassing than any promotion I've ever seen. Demolition Ax even came in as "Axis The Demolisher".
The owners started the promotion after conning banks for credit after falling for a snail mail scam that was a precursor to those "Nigerian millionaire/direct bank deposit" e-mails. They tried to sell GWF to Jerry Jarrett, and he listened since they had an ESPN timeslot, but the only proof of worth they had were essentially junk mail coupons "redeemable for U.S. currency". The whole thing was a scam and a sham, and the owners were naive and in way over their heads. Somebody should make a DVD on Global.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 31, 2007 4:28:54 GMT -5
What was Shawn Michaels best match? I would like a match with HBK on my list but I didn't saw all of them (and please not his match with Bret it is too long lol) It's kind of a random HBK match, and has a screwy finish, but I think Michaels vs. Austin at KOTR 1997 (when they were tag champs) is really good. Both guys were really in their prime as workers, which wasn't the case at the next WrestleMania, where Michaels had the injured back. You can't really go wrong with HBK vs. just about anybody, IMO. The first ever Hell in the Cell between HBK vs. Undertaker is quite the spectacle, and a so-called "five star" match by Meltzer. It's not as ridiculously dangerous as Taker vs. Mankind HITC, but Michaels and Undertaker did a heck of a job of working with the then-new, enormous cage and told a pretty great story throughout the match. And there's a 25-30 minute RAW match between HBK-Benoit that I like more than any of his matches with Bret.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Dec 31, 2007 6:02:00 GMT -5
This thread is incomplete without mention of The Mulkeys.
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