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Post by nisidhe on Dec 15, 2023 18:17:22 GMT -5
He's closer to the Moxley mindset than the Reigns mindset, I think - there may reach a point at which the intangibles will become more of a barrier to renewing the contract than the money. Both Seth and Becky are virtually set for life and can walk away from the business if they chose, but Seth is still looking for the broader experience and may not be as tethered to WWE as one may think.
There are others with that mindset on the roster as well, and I would not be surprised to see them weighing their options in due course.
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 2, 2023 13:28:47 GMT -5
They actually went with Hendrix apparently. Is she a Voodoo Child? Apparently, being born on the same day as Jimi's birthday can bring about such a result. So, yes, it seems.
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 2, 2023 13:20:12 GMT -5
Ric Flair was a far bigger deal in the 1980s than Cena was even during his peak. That said, the 80s were a somewhat less connected time then - you might have had a local promotion and, if you had cable, you might know who was champion in one of the Big Three - but that was it. The numbers of tapetraders were miniscule as a percentage of the overall audience. Flair was big among the territories and in some farflung areas that caught NWA on TV, but that was it. Memes kept Flair relevant far longer than he really had any right to be.
Cena's legacy is really still up in the air at this point. Without the veil of kayfabe, it's hard to measure Cena's legacy by his achievements - 16 times world champion isn't the flex it used to be when those achievements are largely the decisions of the company and not necessarily reflective of one's abilities in the ring. We believed in this stuff when Flair was on top and seeming invincible; the suspension of disbelief in Cena, though, unless you were a child, was a little more difficult to achieve.
But Cena as a human being was/is a far more positive force in the world, and that can make a huge difference to one's legacy - as can a segue into acting. Flair will be a prominent figure in the histories written by the wrestling historians years and years from now. Cena's story still has a chapter or two to be written - and it may end up too big to be written by them.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 30, 2023 11:21:05 GMT -5
I feel the more efficient way to have improved any and all of these and more would be by erasing Moolah's influence on the industry from history.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 27, 2023 19:35:20 GMT -5
They give him Warlord, but now Warlord has had 4 different managers in the WWF and has been in a year long feud with The British Bulldog when Harvey takes over for Slick and has been pushed far down the card Vince should’ve never split up The Powers Of Pain to begin with. Fuji, Slick, Harvey....and who else? Wasn't Heenan the Warlord's manager during the run-up to the WM 7 match vs Davey Boy? It was that long, ridiculous build where they had someone impersonating the Old Doll (RIP) running down the Bulldog, only for there to be an expose video of the same woman at a table just acting, well, naff?
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 27, 2023 19:24:18 GMT -5
Of course, WWE could always throw a fat bag at her and that changes her mind. The ball is in her court Money was always going to be a consideration here - AEW has been offering competitive salaries plus more creative and booking freedom. WWE is prepared to pay a premium to put a talent anywhere they want in their diorama. Mercedes seems more keen to work Japan at the moment, but would no doubt be happy being the big fish in AEW's relatively small pond. Will she come back to WWE? Someday, perhaps - but she's not going to bound right back to WWE until she's had her fill of the world outside...whenever that may be.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 27, 2023 18:40:55 GMT -5
She'll be well past tappable age when she gets out, will be on probation until she's 75 and will spend the rest of her life knowing her legacy is almost at the level of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. She's pretty much persona non grata in the wrestling business; there's no coming back from this. I'd say it's fair enough. I can only hope the Usos and Jeff Hardy are taking notes.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 26, 2023 20:00:27 GMT -5
We watch WrestleTalk on YT. Reading news? It's either here or /r/SquaredCircle.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 26, 2023 12:12:37 GMT -5
I dunno. I don't think Punk's ready for a healthy return to wrestling, let alone WWE. Two months isn't nearly long enough for anyone to work on their own issues and built back trust with others after such a string of behaviour before.
It is really only a matter of time before he gets into someone's face that WWE can't dare risk letting go. It feels almost as if WWE brought him back primarily to test his mettle with the hope that he's exposed once and for all as Problematic with the first incident.
WWE might as well hire Tessa Blanchard if they're going to bring Punk back after all this.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 28, 2023 10:28:05 GMT -5
Orton corpsing after a huge present bounces off David Otunga's head will never not be funny af.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 28, 2023 9:44:34 GMT -5
I agree, but he has had leukemia twice. For him to be this absent without any appearances let alone title defenses, I'm inclined to speculate that he may not be as well as they're hyping him up to be. I don't think that's fair speculation. Could be to limit his exposure to Covid due to his past leukemia battles. It may not be fair speculation to some, but I honestly think it needs to be asked. If the concerns about his long-term health are such that he has to be absent for long periods of time, defends his title less that four times a _year_, and can't even work public appearances or talk shows or anything like that, he cannot be held up as the company's highest-ranked talent. Wouldn't it be better to let him have his time off, while letting someone else do the footwork as champion? I don't care what either Paul may have to say about it - Right now, Roman is _not_ contributing to the success of the company, or its parent company, if he can't even show up to sign autographs.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 27, 2023 16:39:30 GMT -5
Roman's not even 40 yet. He does not need this much time off. I agree, but he has had leukemia twice. For him to be this absent without any appearances let alone title defenses, I'm inclined to speculate that he may not be as well as they're hyping him up to be.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 26, 2023 11:50:53 GMT -5
I want Wrestlemania as a one-night event again, with the biggest match on last.
Cut down the match length - not every match has to be a 20-minute Broadway with 10-minute entrances. If you want everybody to get a payday, throw on a huge battle royal, pair up bunches of your talents in tag teams, do what you need to do to keep the final runtime down to where it feels big, but not the Bataan death march.
It's not that difficult, really. The last match of any event is the main event. You can package any others all you want, but the perception remains that the last impression is the one that lasts.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 25, 2023 18:15:15 GMT -5
A bit more context to all this can be found here: www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/business/ari-emmanuel-endeavor-talent-agency-strategic-review/index.htmlNew York CNN — Endeavor Group Holdings, led by the high-power agent to the stars, Ari Emanuel, said that it is considering a sale of some of its assets. On Wednesday, Endeavor announced it would undergo “a formal review to evaluate strategic alternatives for the Company.” “Given the continued dislocation between Endeavor’s public market value and the intrinsic value of Endeavor’s underlying assets, we believe an evaluation of strategic alternatives is a prudent approach to ensure we are maximizing value for our shareholders,” said Ariel Emanuel, Endeavor’s CEO, in a statement. The sports and entertainment company’s stock has taken a hit, falling more than 30% in the past six months. But Endeavor’s shares jumped in after-hours trading Wednesday, up more than 11%. Endeavor owns global sports agency IMG, art media company Frieze, and WME, a talent agency that has represented mega-stars like Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson and Matt Damon. In the announcement, Endeavor specifically said it would not consider the sale or disposition of its stake in TKO Group Holdings as part of the review. Earlier this year, Endeavor, which owns mixed martial arts company UFC, merged with World Wrestling Entertainment to create TKO Holdings. Endeavor is the majority owner of TKO, and Emanuel serves as CEO. Shares of TKO Holdings, which is a separate publicly traded company apart from Endeavor, climbed nearly 2% in after-hours trading Wednesday. Endeavor’s announcement of a strategic review comes less than two months after French billionaire Francois-Henri Pinault purchased a majority stake in WME’s talent agency rival, CAA. [/quote] Sounds as though there's some growing pains that'll require Endeavor to make some hard choices to get back on a sure footing. The stock price is on a roller-coaster ride, so having some liquid reserves on hand is always a good idea.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 22, 2023 6:58:41 GMT -5
She's doing some of the best character work in Western women's wrestling _ever_ and I'm here for it.
This is what Lacey Evans could have been doing, but Vince never got that deep. Oh, well.
This is the stuff that will make her unforgettable. I imagine Dustin had his hands all over that draft.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 19, 2023 14:22:24 GMT -5
Pushing for psychiatric treatment or "Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity" can end up biting her on the ass.
There have been cases where being placed in a mental facility to await the Governor's/Lieutenant-Governor's/His Majesty's pleasure meant a far longer period of confinement than the usual prison sentence, even for murder.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 18, 2023 8:04:02 GMT -5
In all likelihood, Endeavor's been following the WWE saga for some time, and absolutely offered the merger with the intent ultimately of getting rid of Vince. He has historically been a Very Problematic business leader; the stories that have come out about his leadership and decision-making over the years do not gel with companies looking to stay squeaky-clean for shareholder profits. I would guess that Vince would have been made to agree to a non-compete clause (same as Ted Turner was) as a condition of the merger.
Assuming, though, that no such clause exists and that TKO's leadership were quick to put him out to pasture anyway, Vince would almost certainly have to build, whatever new promotion he was planning, quite literally from the ground up - without the guidance of WWE's booking and creative teams, without Kevin Dunn in the production truck, without his children. It would be unclear who among the current crop of wrestling talent he would be able to persuade to jump ship, or for how much. Where does he get the equipment? Where does he find the production crew willing to work for non-union wages or protection? Where does he find people who can help him set up the actual infrastructure of a promotion that, right off the bat, will need to exceed certain metrics of WWE's before anyone steps up to a ticket window? How does he do this in an industry environment that will have no issues with beating him down the ladder for who he has been and where he's ended up?
Vince can't bear being outside and looking in. Can he bear reaping, without the power and influence he once had over the entire wrestling industry, the salted crop of consequences for what he'd sown in the process?
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 15, 2023 20:37:53 GMT -5
This has Oscar Bait written all over it. I hope.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 13, 2023 8:25:40 GMT -5
I detect a distinct lack of an option for "Who TF cares now?"
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 11, 2023 16:28:00 GMT -5
WWE’s on a roll right now and backstage morale is at a high, so they don’t need Punk bulldozing that with his antics. Yeah, if someone realized that and took the consideration of the roster over a quick boost/profit, Kudos to them. One might suggest that consideration of the roster is good for profits. Punk bringing his antics in with no consequences would like mean a) a decline in in-ring match quality, b) few eyes on the product due to fans wanting to avoid seeing his ass, and c) the very real possibility that those whose contracts are up in 2024 might opt not to re-sign rather than work with Punk.
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